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What is the chance you will order a set of Canyon Cages for your Gen 1 C14?

Yes, %100
31 (37.8%)
Probably, %75
19 (23.2%)
Depends on SWMBO %50
12 (14.6%)
Not sure %25
18 (22%)
It's a safety device, why wouldnt I?  %100000000 chance, why can't I pay now?
2 (2.4%)

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Offline galaxieman

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #120 on: June 06, 2012, 12:50:33 PM »
That 'hidden' mount point is really slick!  I was a bit worried about the mount points being a bit too co-linear for good deflection strength on the lowest part of the rectangle, but seeing the 'behind the curtain' shot with the fairing out of the way makes me feel a lot better about it.  It also looks like there should be a couple of good options for places to mount highway pegs.  Strong work gentlemen!
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #121 on: June 06, 2012, 01:22:38 PM »
You folks certainly know Your tubing work. Nice job.
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #122 on: June 06, 2012, 01:24:03 PM »
Great! This looks good, looks like it would provide great protection, and as Galexieman points out, could work nicely with some additional pegs for us giraffes.

Me likey! ;D

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #123 on: June 06, 2012, 01:30:50 PM »
Is there a reason the bottom horizontal bar needs to be so low? Raising it to follow the lines would make it look better and stronger it would seem. Looks better and I like the three mounts. Glad you're back with the living.


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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #124 on: June 06, 2012, 01:52:34 PM »
Is there a reason the bottom horizontal bar needs to be so low? Raising it to follow the lines would make it look better and stronger it would seem. Looks better and I like the three mounts. Glad you're back with the living.


JP

Does appear it could raise up a bit, if you use the bottom of the Gen 2 cage as a reference. Unless there's something throwing the photo off.
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #125 on: June 06, 2012, 01:57:32 PM »
Thank you guys for your kind words! Regarding some of the points that you guys brought up: There is definitely room to mount highway pegs, it's just a matter of where on the bar you want them. The only concern is that we went with 7/8" tubing on this set to match the rear guards we've been making for this bike for years so you'll need to find 7/8" clamps (I believe RivCo sells them). Regarding the placement of the lower horizontal bar, it does need to be that low on the bike in order to protect it properly. I think the bar would look better if we could raise that lower bar a bit but unfortunately we've raised it as far as we can. If we were to raise that lower horizontal bar even 1/4" more, the lower subfairing would actually hit the ground before the bar would during a tip over which isn't acceptable.

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #126 on: June 06, 2012, 02:35:24 PM »
Tip over pics? Cage only and cage w/small rears?

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #127 on: June 06, 2012, 03:03:46 PM »
I am very impressed.  From the other pictures I couldn't even see the third mounting point (lower one on the vent) but that looks like the best option for good protection without looking like bathroom bars and being able to add highway pegs.  If When the group buy reaches the proper number for the 25% discount will that include black powdercoat or is it the raw bars? 

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #128 on: June 06, 2012, 03:25:59 PM »
Wow, that looks a lot better than the first mock-up. Now all you need to do is get them painted so I can see exactly how they look on my bike. :)

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #129 on: June 06, 2012, 03:35:24 PM »
Tip over pics? Cage only and cage w/small rears?

Next time we lay the bike over I'll get some tip-over pics for you. As it is though, the Cage and the rear guards touch down right at the same time which will help distribute the force of a hit. However, I'm pretty sure the saddle bags would take a slight hit if you were to install just the Canyon Cage without the rear set of guards. I'll try and get some photos of the bike tipped over with just the Canyon Cage on it, though.

I am very impressed.  From the other pictures I couldn't even see the third mounting point (lower one on the vent) but that looks like the best option for good protection without looking like bathroom bars and being able to add highway pegs.  If When the group buy reaches the proper number for the 25% discount will that include black powdercoat or is it the raw bars? 

[running to dig through the couch for loose change!]

Thanks! The listed price is for finished bars in either chrome plate or black powder coat. However, the price is the same for those of you looking for raw bars.

Wow, that looks a lot better than the first mock-up. Now all you need to do is get them painted so I can see exactly how they look on my bike. :)

That'll be coming once we get the design finalized! We'll send this set out to our finishers and have them make it all pretty. Once we receive the bar back I'll be sure to get some photos posted of the finished product! It should look really good once it's done!
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #130 on: June 06, 2012, 04:25:09 PM »
I am impressed, Ryan!  I didn't even know there was a mounting plate behind the fairing... that changes my thinking a lot (is there one on the gen2 bars also?).  I do like the design, And the more angular parallelogram works better with the gen 1 fairing.  However I would like to have seen the front vertical bar go up the bike much further before turning to go into the top vent.  There is even already writing on your green tape showing what I mean.  You didn't address that concern in the previous postings.  There might be some perfectly valid reason you can't do it/try it, but I would love to know what it is :)

Of course, I have a gen2 Concours 1400, but I am looking out for all my gen1 friends on this forum, who need bars that look just as good!
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #131 on: June 06, 2012, 04:45:26 PM »
Alrighty, I got some updated photos for you guys. A lot of you were saying the rectangle portion looked a bit big so we minimized it as much as possible. I've previously stated that we're a bit limited on how we can shape the rectangle due to the available mounting points but we did what we could with what we got! Let me know if you guys think this design is a step in the right direction or if you have any other comments or opinions, please share!

Taken from a step or two back:



Closer:



View from above showing the "hidden" mounting point:



Here's a cool shot I took with part of the fairing removed so you guys could actually see the mounting/bracket work:



Ryan,

That is some fine work you guys have accomplished  :thumbs: Please put me down for a black powder coated set as soon as you are able  ;D

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #132 on: June 06, 2012, 05:13:07 PM »
Ryan... Sign me up for a set in black... To match my rear guards...

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #133 on: June 06, 2012, 05:31:32 PM »
Im in........... :)

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #134 on: June 06, 2012, 08:59:32 PM »
The third mounting point makes the rectangle make sense.  Can we see a pic from direct front and rear to see how far they stick out?  Are they tucked in as far as is safe?

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #135 on: June 07, 2012, 03:45:42 AM »
Wow, I think they look great!


Great job,


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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #136 on: June 07, 2012, 04:41:31 AM »
Haven't been able to get online due to terrible WIFI while on vacation. All  can say is that the look great. I love the shape of them. Has an aggressive  look about them.

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #137 on: June 07, 2012, 11:34:20 AM »
Alrighty, I got some updated photos for you guys. A lot of you were saying the rectangle portion looked a bit big so we minimized it as much as possible. I've previously stated that we're a bit limited on how we can shape the rectangle due to the available mounting points but we did what we could with what we got! Let me know if you guys think this design is a step in the right direction or if you have any other comments or opinions, please share!



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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #138 on: June 07, 2012, 02:08:10 PM »
I am impressed, Ryan!  I didn't even know there was a mounting plate behind the fairing... that changes my thinking a lot (is there one on the gen2 bars also?).  I do like the design, And the more angular parallelogram works better with the gen 1 fairing.  However I would like to have seen the front vertical bar go up the bike much further before turning to go into the top vent.  There is even already writing on your green tape showing what I mean.  You didn't address that concern in the previous postings.  There might be some perfectly valid reason you can't do it/try it, but I would love to know what it is :)

Of course, I have a gen2 Concours 1400, but I am looking out for all my gen1 friends on this forum, who need bars that look just as good!

You're the man, maxtog! We seriously appreciate all of your input throughout both builds, you've been a tremendous help! Anyhow, the reason we didn't extend the front vertical bar further up the bike before turning it in the higher vent is strength. Extending the bar in that fashion would put it farther away from the mounting points which, as you know, would make it weaker. Also, I think extending the bar in this fashion would make it look a tad goofy because the rectangle portion has to be so low on the bike. I think it'd be funky to have the rectangle that low with a single bar extending that high up.

Ryan,

That is some fine work you guys have accomplished  :thumbs: Please put me down for a black powder coated set as soon as you are able  ;D

We'll most likely be making a new Group Buy thread for the Generation 1 bikes once the Canyon Cages are ready to go into production so keep an eye out for that. Once we start that thread and begin taking orders, I'll be sure to get you on the list!

The third mounting point makes the rectangle make sense.  Can we see a pic from direct front and rear to see how far they stick out?  Are they tucked in as far as is safe?

They're definitely tucked as far in as is safe, just like the Canyon Cage for the 2010-2012 Connie. We wanted these guards to be as close to the body of the bike as possible to allow for extreme lean angles and to eliminate worry when lining through traffic. Below are a few photos to show you just how close they are!



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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #139 on: June 07, 2012, 03:14:19 PM »
They tuck in very nice. It appears the mirrors are still the widest point on the bike.