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What is the chance you will order a set of Canyon Cages for your Gen 1 C14?

Yes, %100
31 (37.8%)
Probably, %75
19 (23.2%)
Depends on SWMBO %50
12 (14.6%)
Not sure %25
18 (22%)
It's a safety device, why wouldnt I?  %100000000 chance, why can't I pay now?
2 (2.4%)

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Offline r2t2

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2012, 06:47:10 PM »
Ryan,
It's really looking good. Especially considering all the constraints!
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #81 on: May 31, 2012, 07:18:47 PM »
I would prefer not to drill unless the drill design made the current design look HORRIBLE.  In my opinion the current design without drilling looks NICE to me.  If you are able to show a design with drilling (but simulated) on the demo bike that would help.  Good job.

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #82 on: May 31, 2012, 07:24:02 PM »
These look Nice I vote for the no drill if at all possible and would not a a problem installing the current design

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #83 on: May 31, 2012, 09:38:09 PM »
Hey guys! We tweaked some of the lines to make them flow with the lines of the bike a bit better. Check out the latest design and let me know what you think! Keep in mind, the lower horizontal part of the rectangle doesn't look perfectly parallel to the top horizontal bar of the rectangle because the top is a straight bar and the bottom bar is bent to curve around the fairings. It looks a tad awkward in the photo but looks better in person. 

Wow!  That is really impressive!  Lots of bends in that sucker (whole lot more complex than gen2).  Matches pretty good indeed.  I am actually kind of blown away.   I notice you jumped up one vent on the top, which probably makes more sense.  My main question is- is there enough support?  It looks like the mockup has no lower front support yet, and when you add it from through the bottom vent, it doesn't look like all that bar below it will be strong enough.

Also, could the front go straight further before twisting back for the mount point? It looks like someone had that idea originally, since it is in blue marker on the tape...
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #84 on: June 01, 2012, 03:58:01 AM »
I'm kinda liking it better than the gen 2

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #85 on: June 01, 2012, 04:13:49 AM »
2 options, either shorten the inner vertical or add a middle horizontal to fill the void.

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #86 on: June 01, 2012, 08:05:02 AM »
 You do realize that there is an optional slider attached to the fairing on the bike you are using, don't you? If that was removed would you then be able to tuck the structure closer into the fairing or would the tighter spacing not be enough to protect the bike from rolling over? Just curious as I do not have the sliders on my '08 fairing and there doesn't appear to be a need for them anyway once the cage is put in place.

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #87 on: June 01, 2012, 09:30:57 AM »
You do realize that there is an optional slider attached to the fairing on the bike you are using, don't you? If that was removed would you then be able to tuck the structure closer into the fairing or would the tighter spacing not be enough to protect the bike from rolling over? Just curious as I do not have the sliders on my '08 fairing and there doesn't appear to be a need for them anyway once the cage is put in place.

Where is the slider you are referring to?  I don't see anything that is out of place.
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #88 on: June 01, 2012, 12:22:28 PM »
I like the length of the inner piece the way it is. As far as the slider, are you talking about the un-taped section of the lower fairing?

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #89 on: June 01, 2012, 12:48:08 PM »
I am very interested in seeing the final product.  A third point of contact on the frame would give me a little more confidence in the strength  but I really like what I see so far.  For $225 (I am sure the group buy will easily surpass the minimum needed) I would love to have decent looking protection that also gives me a spot for highway pegs on loooooong rides. 
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #90 on: June 01, 2012, 12:49:18 PM »
Where is the slider you are referring to?  I don't see anything that is out of place.

It's the wedge shape black piece running parallel to the floor at the mid-point of the cage. It's either that, or the tape is making it an illusion in the photo. 

.................edit- Ok, I thought it kind of looked like the shape of the Top Block sliders, but the more I look at it, the more it's probably the tape making it look that way.

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #91 on: June 01, 2012, 03:36:11 PM »
A third point of contact on the frame would give me a little more confidence in the strength 

I think this is just a hold-in-place mockup.  I am quite sure it will require a front-lower mounting to be "real".  But that is a lot of work for them while just in the "tinkering with the initial design" phase...
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #92 on: June 01, 2012, 03:38:17 PM »
This new design looks pretty good to me. Good balance of looks and functionality. I do not want the design to get too intricate thereby defeating the price point. Now put it in production already !  ;D
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2012, 04:13:05 PM »
It looks too massive to me. I don't like it.
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2012, 05:11:38 PM »
It looks too massive to me. I don't like it.

I'm with you. The rectangle is too large. Look at the gen 2, the rectangle is smaller and looks better.
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2012, 05:39:27 PM »
Well I have no dog in this fight but if that's the final design I guess Top Block will continue to be the best looking option for the Gen 1...   :)

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2012, 06:13:34 PM »
Ryan, I will buy it right now. I like it.  I think it's a trade off to have bars at all. But, for me, the trade is way worth it.

Great work. Again, I think it looks great and if this is it, I will send you my money now. Just tell me when.

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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #97 on: June 02, 2012, 03:28:32 PM »


Thoughts: if the bar by the case is straightened out or follows the lines of the body work better, it would help.

Other thought, bring the lower hoop up and line the bar up with the same angle as the top bar near the vents. Although this looks like it might not protect the lower body work as well.


As others mentioned, I'd rather not drill either!!
Otherwise, looking good!
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #98 on: June 02, 2012, 06:52:42 PM »
Other thought, bring the lower hoop up and line the bar up with the same angle as the top bar near the vents. Although this looks like it might not protect the lower body work as well.

It won't protect at all.  It was pretty clear with the testing of the Gen-2 bars, that at least part of the bar must remain as low as he has in the sample setup.
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Re: Gen one C14 Canyon Cage
« Reply #99 on: June 02, 2012, 08:27:35 PM »
Since we are offering opinions I like to copy the 2nd gen as much as possible. The first version offered but canted to match the vent lines looks best to me. Curling the top mount forward from the bottom hole and bending down keeps the vertical bar forward for best protection.
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