For the record...Steve isn't a Troll. He's a bit gnomish but not a Troll. Occasionally he starts some s*** but all in all he's a gnome. 
+1. He is a nice, rational person and likes a good debate; and I appreciate that. Plus I like most of what he writes (although the style is a bit unusual at times.... not like I have much room to talk). But he doesn't tolerate too much clowning, illogical retorts, nor personal attacks. I can't say I like it that much myself (nor do you ever see me doing it), but, surprisingly, I have been told I really am the life of the party by many people, and I don't even drink! (I doubt you could tell THAT from the forum).
Anyway, if you cut out the irrational, emotional, or silly stuff, I think this was actually a very interesting and productive thread. I think that most people (including myself) learned something new and/or have a better appreciation for other people's positions.
Those that expect to "win" or "lose" are not going to be happy because rarely are things in life a simple black and white. Those that resort to badgering, attacking, or insults need to examine their position- perhaps they have no real justification for their beliefs. Fortunately, that is rare here. I am on a lot of forums and I can say that this one has one of the best caliber of people on any of them and it is certainly the most entertaining.
