But you do not have to 'find and mess' with any keys- the key is in the ignition, patiently waiting for any <authorized> person (anyone who has a valid fob) to access it.
No, because then I can't have the bike running and getting warm and having the GPS do it's forever prep while messing with case.... That is why I had a "regular" key cut... (Because without THAT I would have to then find the fob and fiddle with THAT to remove the psudo key, and then reinstall that, which is even more work). Either way, I am still having to fiddle with keys!
For me, Kipass offers no advantages, but presents additional complexity (batteries, fobs, pressing and waiting on the knob, proximity, etc) and cost with more failure points. It solves problems I don't have. And it creates problems I don't want.
Love this one: I lock my jacket in the side case so I don't have to carry it around. CRAP- the fob is in the jacket because I DON'T WANT A DAMN LUMP IN MY POCKET. Surely it is far enough away to prevent bike theft..... <test> nope. Take it all apart again, try to remember this each time.
I am not saying it can't be valuable for some people, just not for me.
C10 owner here...some of us considered a C14, but will not own one due to the extra KiPass failure modes. NOT EVER. Three mechanical keys for the C10, but I don't mind keys so much. At least they are flat...$0.02.
saxman
I would feel the same way if I didn't have to access my side cases nearly every single trip. I STILL have to fumble for an awkward in-fob key or take the stovepipe out to open them, saving me nothing. Actually, I'd rather carry a smaller key in my pocket vs. a fat fob.
That's my only beef, other than that, okay. Still, it answered a question no one asked and serves no real purpose. If you don't access the bags much it isn't bad at all. If you use the bags almost every time you stop, like I do, it's a pain. I use the stove key for that so I don't have to get the little key out of the fob I'm not supposed to have to handle, and it works okay, and I have had no issues.
For me, Kipass offers no advantages, <SNIP> because I DON'T WANT A DAMN LUMP IN MY POCKET.Where do you keep yer wallet, or do you wear a purse?
And for you and people like you there is always an FJR. Which I do believe has brought this thread full circle.
Brian
Ah, yet another evolutionary thread. From FJR to KPass once again.
C10 owner here...some of us considered a C14, but will not own one due to the extra KiPass failure modes. NOT EVER. Three mechanical keys for the C10, but I don't mind keys so much. At least they are flat...$0.02.
saxman
Thirty-seven hours and four pages later...
I have a coworker that has an FJR. He and I dont often get along, so whenever he does his sneaky little crap at work I make sure to park the big girl right next to his lesser machine (even though I have an assigned spot). I'll try to get a pic, and the C14 does indeed look flat pissed off, and his looks like a Nintendo character!!LOL! That's right...you should park yours facing the front of his so it stares down that FJR!
Where do you keep yer wallet, or do you wear a purse?
Where do you keep yer wallet, or do you wear a purse?