No sir, I've used the key in the FOB last 52,000 miles. I've never had a reason to remove the stove key is my point =)I wasn't following at first but now it's clear as mud.
Kipass is so reliable that a bypass mod has been created and all the owners on this site know of it.
Kipass= $300.00 to replace and reprogram.versus a few bucks for a non-key pass key.
There is the cheaper smaller extra fob that only works when you place it against the ignition. From my understanding you cannot reprogram a new full size fob with it if you have lost the transmitting fob.
Lose the fob without a spare and you are looking at over $600.00 to repair.
All so you do not have to take the key out of your pocket. Other than Kipass, I really like the bike especially with the cruise control mounted.
Kawasaki gave two full sized fobs for the 09/09 model and realized either they can make additional profit by giving only one or it was too expensive to add the full size second fob or both reasons. Other than not having to take your key out of your pocket or supposedly making it more difficult to start once it is stolen (it can be stolen with Kipass), I have not found a real benefit to it versus cost.
Ah, yet another evolutionary thread. From FJR to KPass once again.
KPass rules, FJR drools!!
I put my FOB in my pocket, only removed when I change pants on a trip. The stove knob is used for gas and bags, but resides in the ignition the rest of the time. Easier than pulling the key from the FOB that's in my pocket.
Ah, yet another evolutionary thread. From FJR to KPass once again.Same thing I do also.
KPass rules, FJR drools!!
I put my FOB in my pocket, only removed when I change pants on a trip. The stove knob is used for gas and bags, but resides in the ignition the rest of the time. Easier than pulling the key from the FOB that's in my pocket.
^^^^that, yes sir indeed. Even without mentioning the KiPass the FJR is old tech lacking 6th gear and some pow-ah. In all fairness, i still like the FJR but compared to a KiPass equipped C14..... well its obviousPlus (according to my wife) Connie is rockin' the "mean look".
FJR has no KiPass
My brother-in-law bought a new Road King. Believe it or not, it also has a fob. Not sure how it functions - perhaps it still lets you operate in conventional way. Have not looked at it closely.
But yeah, I have my bike for 2 years now and Kipass is nice regardless what others say. Although it would be nice for Kawasaki to put a fail safe in case Kipass fails (which it did in a very small number of people).
Not exactly correct- most Fudgers have no KiPass but those special few do. Ever notice a Fudger that somehow seems not as bad as the others? Not as ugly, not as slow? If you were thinking that it had been somehow enhanced, you would be correct!Now THAT's funny!!
<ROFLMAO> two times. How come I didn't find this thread sooner?
Brian
Kipass is so reliable that a bypass mod has been created and all the owners on this site know of it.
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Now THAT's funny!!
If memory serves, that photo was taken of <he who must not be named>'s bike in the parking lot of Mystic Pizza. It struck me as pretty funny while I was taking the picture too. Not so much the Fudger owner.That's funny! And we all know what happened to Kirby!
By the way, and OFFTOPIC (although this whole thread is now), I gave away a bypass at the first COG event of the season, the Spring Fling. I introduced it as Kirby's KiPass Korrection Kit but subtitled it 'Cap'n Bob's memorial KiPass Bypass'. Cap'n Bob was sitting at the same table as I was and thought it was mildly amusing. What was funny though was that afterward he told me that he thought I would rig the raffle to award him the bypass.... (nope, I would not do that- rig any raffle)
Brian
As I've told my kids many times, accurately describing the problem is often very close to accurately describing the solution. All you have to do is get a "normal" key cut and put it on your key-ring. Then your wish has come true.
You're welcome.
Thanks, sort of but I don't think you understand what I'm really griping about. I'm not complaining about Kipass in itself but rather what I consider a design flaw that does not allow the side cases to remain in an unlocked state, which negates Kipass' utility to a large extent for my mission. Fumbling around on my keychain for a spare key or fumbling with the stovepipe isn't that different than extracting the key from the fob, at least in my opinion.
Yes the fabricated key-knob left on the case solves that problem somewhat, but it's just another loose piece on the bike that has to be watched and managed, and if you need the cases locked then you have to stow the knob(s) someplace. One of these days I'm going to figure out a mechanical work around.
Before I bought the bike I thought the Kpass was a waste, but I am coming around. I've lost count of how many times I've had to take my gloves back off to fish my key out of my pocket on my other bikes. With the Connie, just hop on, push down, wait for the click and turn it on. Get to the store, park the bike turn it off and walk away. Definitely spoiling me.
Not my experience at all. Since I have to also open at least one case almost every time I get on or off the bike, I still have to find and mess with keys. If the Keypass unlocked the bags and the tank- now THAT would be convenient (and rather complex). Otherwise, it really doesn't impress me all that much. Haven't had any PROBLEM with it, however. But I could take it or leave it. I would much rather that expense had been put into a factory installed cruise control system.
Thanks, sort of but I don't think you understand what I'm really griping about. I'm not complaining about Kipass in itself but rather what I consider a design flaw that does not allow the side cases to remain in an unlocked state, which negates Kipass' utility to a large extent for my mission. Fumbling around on my keychain for a spare key or fumbling with the stovepipe isn't that different than extracting the key from the fob, at least in my opinion.
Yes the fabricated key-knob left on the case solves that problem somewhat, but it's just another loose piece on the bike that has to be watched and managed, and if you need the cases locked then you have to stow the knob(s) someplace. One of these days I'm going to figure out a mechanical work around.