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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: ZG on May 11, 2013, 10:36:49 AM
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So I have a set of wheels that I just did in gold color, so far I'm only able to find wheel weights in black, grey, and chrome... no gold. :(
What other options are there for balancing? I've heard about things like beads and gels to go on the inside of the tire but I'm guessing those aren't options for me having tire pressure sensors right? :-\
Help me. :-\
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So I have a set of wheels that I just did in gold color, so far I'm only able to find wheel weights in black, grey, and chrome... no gold. :(
What other options are there for balancing? I've heard about things like beads and gels to go on the inside of the tire but I'm guessing those aren't options for me having tire pressure sensors right? :-\
Help me. :-\
Hmm, that's a tough one. Have the tires shaved? :-X
What about having a bar of stick on weights painted to match the wheels? They don't usually take much weight, and a bar of weights usually gives you enough for several wheels (at least on our bikes, when using high quality tires). I've found that with the PR3's and the Angels, once the wheel itself was balanced, I rarely need to mess with the weights.
Plus, as little as you ride, the tires should last the life of the bike. ;D
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Are you being serious ZG?? :rotflmao: Oh and the mental condition that you have is a tough one, of course OCD can be dealt with in multiple ways. ;) Spray paint some wheel weights with gold paint, that should work fine.
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Not that it will help your newest bling, I would have the third set of rims balanced out when you clean up the mold lines, use removal of material as the balance method. My last three sets of tires required no new weights, IOW, the 'Stones were not as balanced as the Stradas, which needed balancing, but the following PR2s, Angel 50s, and 55s needed no new weight shift. Luck?
If you are going to this level of perfection and as it's obvious money isn't the blocking point consider doing a static balance on the rim after removing mold lines, and remove enough material at the heavy side and than mount a new tire, check balance, if good, recoat.
Problem solved.
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Are you being serious ZG?? :rotflmao: Oh and the mental condition that you have is a tough one, of course OCD can be dealt with in multiple ways. ;) Spray paint some wheel weights with gold paint, that should work fine.
That's actually a good idea...or he could just get them plated.
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That's actually a good idea...or he could just get them plated.
Or he could just use real gold with double sided tape ;)
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That works as well... In fact, he could use 70% less for the same weight, therefore making it much more inconspicuous.
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Are you being serious ZG?? :rotflmao: Oh and the mental condition that you have is a tough one, of course OCD can be dealt with in multiple ways. ;) Spray paint some wheel weights with gold paint, that should work fine.
Hmm, that's a tough one. Have the tires shaved? :-X
What about having a bar of stick on weights painted to match the wheels? They don't usually take much weight, and a bar of weights usually gives you enough for several wheels (at least on our bikes, when using high quality tires). I've found that with the PR3's and the Angels, once the wheel itself was balanced, I rarely need to mess with the weights.
Plus, as little as you ride, the tires should last the life of the bike. ;D
Ya, I thought about just painting some standard grey ones, just trying to look at all options I guess... I'm intrigued with the idea of no wheel weights at all, would defenitley look cleaner IMO, but I just don't know anything about those products cause I've never used em. ??? :-\
I did find these but it seems that would last me a lifetime, or maybe I could make myself a nice grill for my teeth with some of em... ;) ;D 8)
http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-80-2550MG.html (http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-80-2550MG.html)
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Or he could just use real gold with double sided tape ;)
That works as well... In fact, he could use 70% less for the same weight, therefore making it much more inconspicuous.
Hmmm... tempting indeed! ;) 8)
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Not that it will help your newest bling, I would have the third set of rims balanced out when you clean up the mold lines, use removal of material as the balance method. My last three sets of tires required no new weights, IOW, the 'Stones were not as balanced as the Stradas, which needed balancing, but the following PR2s, Angel 50s, and 55s needed no new weight shift. Luck?
If you are going to this level of perfection and as it's obvious money isn't the blocking point consider doing a static balance on the rim after removing mold lines, and remove enough material at the heavy side and than mount a new tire, check balance, if good, recoat.
Problem solved.
Now that is thinking outside the box Chet, I like it! :thumbs: :chugbeer:
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Jay,
You can get smaller quantities of the stick on weights. I got some from NoMar when I purchased the tire changer. I would think spay paint would do the trick.
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Jay,
You can get smaller quantities of the stick on weights. I got some from NoMar when I purchased the tire changer. I would think spay paint would do the trick.
I'm not familiar with NoMar BZ, do they sell gold weights? Or are you saying just buy the grey ones and paint em? :-\
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My wife has OCD, but she is not even in your league!!!
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Just put a new front PR2 on my ZRX and used the beads and they work very well. Why do you think they would mess up the tire pressure sensors?
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I'm not familiar with NoMar BZ, do they sell gold weights? Or are you saying just buy the grey ones and paint em? :-\
The sell tire changer machines that will not mar your wheels, hence the name. They also sell regular silver stick on weights and black and red. You would need to paint. I guess the beads would probably be okay because once the wheel gets turning they find the balance point and they would be on the inside of the tire not the wheel so they would not really touch the TPMS. Since you are so concerned about a very clean look I would try the beads first.
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:popcorn:
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Just put a new front PR2 on my ZRX and used the beads and they work very well. Why do you think they would mess up the tire pressure sensors?
:popcorn: x2
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:popcorn: x 3
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=4800.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=4800.0)
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All right, someone has to ask. How do you get them in the tire?
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I don't think that they'll fit through the valve stem... ::)
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All right, someone has to ask. How do you get them in the tire?
Read the package, it clearly recomends KY as a lube ;D
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Why do you think they would mess up the tire pressure sensors?
I'm not sure that they would, just asking the question if they would I guess, they obviously move around inside the wheel/tire so at some point they are hitting the TPS right? Could the small beads somehow get stuck in/to the TPS somehow?? ??? :-\
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Well, I think I'm gonna go ahead an try the Dynabeads, I figure if they don't work I can always take them out and mount weights, so no harm in trying and now I'm just curious, I like the idea of no weights stuck on the gold wheels if they work... :-\
I just pulled the trigger on this kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
I'll let you guys know my thoughts on em. :chugbeer:
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Need a control run without weight or beads to set a baseline.
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Well, I think I'm gonna go ahead an try the Dynabeads, I figure if they don't work I can always take them out and mount weights, so no harm in trying and now I'm just curious, I like the idea of no weights stuck on the gold wheels if they work... :-\
I just pulled the trigger on this kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
I'll let you guys know my thoughts on em. :chugbeer:
Jay, Jay, Jay. Why don't you just get car tires? >:( Seriously. If these worked half as good as claimed don't you think they would be included in all tire sales? I really aint worried about the TPS issue, but the centerline of the tire, on the inside, ceramic is extremly abrasive, polished or not. I'd rather see you on a pastel pink bike with purple rims and tassles hanging off the bars. Seriously.
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seriously
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seriously
So, that's what gPink stands for, eh? Gawdawefull Pink ;)
Just got off the phone with Jay, he's gonna document with pics his experience so we can put this to bed once and for all.
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So, that's what gPink stands for, eh? Gawdawefull Pink ;)
Just got off the phone with Jay, he's gonna document with pics his experience so we can put this to bed once and for all.
If you're speaking of beads, this sounds like bad porn.
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Well, I think I'm gonna go ahead an try the Dynabeads, I figure if they don't work I can always take them out and mount weights, so no harm in trying and now I'm just curious, I like the idea of no weights stuck on the gold wheels if they work... :-\
I just pulled the trigger on this kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
I'll let you guys know my thoughts on em. :chugbeer:
Throw ya some Scamsoil in the crankcase too while your at it.
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Just got off the phone with Jay, he's gonna document with pics his experience so we can put this to bed once and for all.
Yep, I'll be sure to keep ya'll posted on how they work, or don't work, and any damage they cause, or don't cause, etc...
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Throw ya some Scamsoil in the crankcase too while your at it.
Never heard of it Poke, will that work for balancing the wheels/tires? ???
;D
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So, that's what gPink stands for, eh? Gawdawefull Pink ;)
Just got off the phone with Jay, he's gonna document with pics his experience so we can put this to bed once and for all.
What, the bead thing or finishing the bike?
:censored: Silverdammit, Cactus, SOP....quite changing your screen name. You're driving me :censored: bananas!
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:censored: Silverdammit, Cactus, SOP....quite changing your screen name. You're driving me :censored: bananas!
:rotflmao:
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What, the bead thing or finishing the bike?
:censored: Silverdammit, Cactus, SOP....quite changing your screen name. You're driving me :censored: bananas!
Since the Arena has been so quiet I am just working on "balancing" things out ;)
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Well, I think I'm gonna go ahead an try the Dynabeads, I figure if they don't work I can always take them out and mount weights, so no harm in trying and now I'm just curious, I like the idea of no weights stuck on the gold wheels if they work... :-\
I just pulled the trigger on this kit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/171033227296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)
I'll let you guys know my thoughts on em. :chugbeer:
Don't do it J! Where have you been when we were having 'discussions' on these beads?
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How is it the beads are smart enough to find the lightest spot in the tire/wheel combo?
I have never seen DynaBeads and Snake Oil in the room at the same time. Just sayin ....
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Don't do it J! Where have you been when we were having 'discussions' on these beads?
Why not C? What would be the harm in trying them? If they don't work I can take them out and mount weights... What am I missing that trying them will do ill damage? ???
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Try riding the bike without any weights on the wheels and see how it does. Then add in the beads. Let us know how it goes....seriously. I'd like to know if they work or not. Like you said, you can always take them out.
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Try riding the bike without any weights on the wheels and see how it does. Then add in the beads.
+1
If you MUST try those beads things, then you have to first test without or it proves nothing. And getting them out will likely require unmounting the tire again...
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A minor nuisance, Max...
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Try riding the bike without any weights on the wheels and see how it does.
What will that feel like Sparky? To my knowledge I've never road a bike with the wheels/tires not balanced, it would be nice to know what to expect so I don't sign myself up for disaster... :-\
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What will that feel like Sparky? To my knowledge I've never road a bike with the wheels/tires not balanced, it would be nice to know what to expect so I don't sign myself up for disaster... :-\
Riding a slow black (title ;)) bike you should have nothing to worry about ;) Keep it at your usual 55-60, unless that green paint added too much weight, and you should be good to go ;D ;D
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Keep it at your usual 55-60, unless that green paint added too much weight, and you should be good to go ;D ;D
But how exactly will it behave or act or feel?? ???
I'd like to know in advance so that I can at least be prepared for it or avoid certain speeds etc, better to know ahead of time than dump the bike IMO... :-\
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Think washboard feel. On the real side, I seriously doubt you feel anything short of a highspeed run, your Ohlins will mask/absorb the out of balance oscilations. What you should do is swap suspensions with me so you have a better idea, all in the name of science of course ;)
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Think washboard feel. On the real side, I seriously doubt you feel anything short of a highspeed run, your Ohlins will mask/absorb the out of balance oscilations. What you should do is swap suspensions with me so you have a better idea, all in the name of science of course ;)
Hmmm... ok, well now I'm really confused, if I'm not gonna feel anything with no weights (or Dyna beads) then why the heck even balance them at all? Why not just ride em as is? ??? :-\
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Hmmm... ok, well now I'm really confused, if I'm not gonna feel anything with no weights (or Dyna beads) then why the heck even balance them at all? Why not just ride em as is? ??? :-\
Uneven wear and reduced traction due to uneven oscilation. Just because you don't feel it don't mean it aint there. Did you know that your tires are constantly weaving left and right? This is why a relaxed rider is always a smoother rider (not fighting the natural movement of the bike) and another reason why good suspension is a bonus for daily rides, not just the track. Dork up your settings, see how tire life is affected :o Or ride with a death grip, as tense as you can make yourself from the hands all the way to your toes, really lock in your elbows. just don't do this at speeds above 45 or so, you may end up with the dreaded tank slapper. Seriously, for those who have never intentionally tried this I would say do it. See how much harder it is to turn in, how does the bike track on a straight road, how about braking?
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Thanks Chet. :chugbeer:
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There are some that don't balance them at all and don't have problems, at least that's what they've said here. You know how your bike feels at speed, don't you? Gradually work up to your normal speed and see how it feels. I don't think any of us are saying go 0 to 150 from a standing stop in 9 seconds.... ;) You could always ask your tire installer to get the best balance they can by moving the tire around the rim (that may take some time as I don't know how loose the tires are on the rim after installation.). I've done that with cage tires when I worked with my father-in-law at his service station. Course we only had a bubble balancer then (but it worked pretty darn good).
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Jay, before you install the beads into the wheels, do a static / gravity balance.
It's real simple, and only requires a pair of jack stands (or similar pair if items to hold the wheel off the ground). Insert the axle into the wheel, and set it on the jack stands, with the stands raised up just enough so the tire doesn't touch anywhere. Gently start the wheel rotating, less than 1 revolution, and see where it stops. It should move freely. If it doesn't, the wheel bearings may be bad. Once you see where it stops, repeat a few more times, and see if it always stops at the same point, or close to it. If it does, then it's heavy at that point, and it needs weight on the opposite side to offset it.
This procedure is much more accurate for static balance than machine balancing, since most machine balancer operators don't bother fixing anything less than 1/4 ounce out of balance.
You will not be able to do this procedure once the Dyno Beads are installed. It should give you a base line for how out of balance the wheel / tire combination is before you add the beads. If you want to know how much it's out of balance, you could try adding some weight using scotch tape or similar.
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Jay, before you install the beads into the wheels, do a static / gravity balance.
It's real simple, and only requires a pair of jack stands (or similar pair if items to hold the wheel off the ground). Insert the axle into the wheel, and set it on the jack stands, with the stands raised up just enough so the tire doesn't touch anywhere. Gently start the wheel rotating, less than 1 revolution, and see where it stops. It should move freely. If it doesn't, the wheel bearings may be bad. Once you see where it stops, repeat a few more times, and see if it always stops at the same point, or close to it. If it does, then it's heavy at that point, and it needs weight on the opposite side to offset it.
This procedure is much more accurate for static balance than machine balancing, since most machine balancer operators don't bother fixing anything less than 1/4 ounce out of balance.
You will not be able to do this procedure once the Dyno Beads are installed. It should give you a base line for how out of balance the wheel / tire combination is before you add the beads. If you want to know how much it's out of balance, you could try adding some weight using scotch tape or similar.
Wait one, wouldn't this involve Jay pulling the wheels off? :o
Or rather, Jay's wife pulling the wheels... ;)
Don't forget to pull the old weights off before the static balance attempt.
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Or rather, Jay's wife pulling the wheels... ;)
I'll put this on mama's to-do list, she's a heck of a wrencher... ;)
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I'll put this on mama's to-do list, she's a heck of a wrencher... ;)
:thumbs:
She's a keeper that one.
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Guys, that picture has got to go, sadly I must say, but go it must. :-[ :'(
I know I'll be vilified and burned in effigy as well.... Situation normal.
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Poor mama... :(
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Guys, that picture has got to go, sadly I must say, but go it must. :-[ :'(
I know I'll be vilified and burned in effigy as well.... Situation normal.
Effigy you say?
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Yep. Word of the day.
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Guys, that picture has got to go, sadly I must say, but go it must. :-[ :'(
I know I'll be vilified and burned in effigy as well.... Situation normal.
Awwww... I didn't even get to see the pic. :'( Of course now I want to see it even more.
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Wait one, wouldn't this involve Jay pulling the wheels off? :o
Or rather, Jay's wife pulling the wheels... ;)
Don't forget to pull the old weights off before the static balance attempt.
Well, unless he bought a spare set of axles. He's already got the wheels off the bike, since this is the "new" set. :D
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Well, unless he bought a spare set of axles. He's already got the wheels off the bike, since this is the "new" set. :D
Oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about all the 'extra' parts laying around. ;)
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Awwww... I didn't even get to see the pic. :'( Of course now I want to see it even more.
Yep, you missed out R, now you'll never know... ;)
real and spectacular.mov (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL2PicT9Kng#)
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I used balance beads after I had my wheels chromed and they work fine! I'm no tire expert but I have taken the bike to warp speed with no problems. I will never go back to wheel weights. Thats my two cents, not looking for any trouble.
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I used balance beads after I had my wheels chromed and they work fine! I'm no tire expert but I have taken the bike to warp speed with no problems. I will never go back to wheel weights. Thats my two cents, not looking for any trouble.
Nothing wrong with adding another data point.
But the issue is that you/we don't know how the bike would be with no weights AND no beads. Maybe they are doing something, maybe they aren't...
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I used balance beads after I had my wheels chromed and they work fine! I'm no tire expert but I have taken the bike to warp speed with no problems. I will never go back to wheel weights. Thats my two cents, not looking for any trouble.
Thanks for the input AG! :chugbeer:
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Thanks for the input AG! :chugbeer:
So, you going with the chrome wheels to match the stereo typical black bike? ;) Next up will be the cup holder, tassles, and chaps :o :o :o Last straw will be hanging out in bars making brap brap noises in yer beer ;D
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It's sad, isn't it?
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It's sad, isn't it?
I do know of a proper colored bike he could get, delivery would be in order ;D
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I think you need Green beads for your hair ::)
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So, you going with the chrome wheels to match the stereo typical black bike? ;) Next up will be the cup holder, tassles, and chaps :o :o :o Last straw will be hanging out in bars making brap brap noises in yer beer ;D
:yikes: :rotflmao:
If I ever do that you have my full permission to punch me in the face. ;D
FWIW... Max wears chaps. ;) :stirpot:
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:yikes: :rotflmao:
If I ever do that you have my full permission to punch me in the face. ;D
Why, thank you ;D
I still think you need a new canvas for your next wild project, maybe a naked Portland streetfighter :o Never mind, that sounds worse than tassles and chaps :-X
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maybe a naked Portland streetfighter :o Never mind, that sounds worse than tassles and chaps :-X
:rotflmao:
Too true unfortunately... ;D
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Has anyone used Dyna beads. I used them in my last bike without weights and it was as smooth as glass. Really work. Any thoughts?? Doug
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Has anyone used Dyna beads. I used them in my last bike without weights and it was as smooth as glass. Really work. Any thoughts?? Doug
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Has anyone used Dyna beads. I used them in my last bike without weights and it was as smooth as glass. Really work. Any thoughts?? Doug
Well, Mr. Poopster, what year C14....2009?
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=4800.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=4800.0)
But to cut to the chase, some say they work, some say it's snake oil, and some are on the fence. That about sums it up. Next question?
Put your popcorn away, Max..... ;)
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Ya 2009. And the beads do work very well. With plugs in the tire I don't know.
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What I would like to see is someone ride the bike without the beads, report back. Then add the beads and see what happens, report back. Then chuck the beads and get it balanced professionally, report back.
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What I would like to see is someone ride the bike without the beads, report back. Then add the beads and see what happens, report back. Then chuck the beads and get it balanced professionally, report back.
The beads rate right up there with Scamsoil.
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Think I'll close out this out and move on
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How's this:
New PR2 on front wheel with weights. Took it for a ride and 88mph was fine, but as soon as I hit 90 serious vibration. Took the wheel of and repositioned the weights and it ran fine at triple digits. Next PR2 on the same front wheel, I used dynabeads and it's fine up to 130mph.
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How's this:
New PR2 on front wheel with weights. Took it for a ride and 88mph was fine, but as soon as I hit 90 serious vibration. Took the wheel of and repositioned the weights and it ran fine at triple digits. Next PR2 on the same front wheel, I used dynabeads and it's fine up to 130mph.
Still doesn't prove anything, since the tire needs balancing just as much if not more than the wheel. You didn't run the last tire with no weights first (at least, according to your story).
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Still doesn't prove anything, since the tire needs balancing just as much if not more than the wheel. You didn't run the last tire with no weights first (at least, according to your story).
Actually Max, it did prove something. That the first balance attempt with weights wasn't done correctly...
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Lead a horse......
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Perhaps someone who has used the beads has reported this (I did not read all the pages)
I have several customers who use them, I find nearly everytime I change tires for them that the beads are spread out in varying amounts around the inside of the tire (lightly stuck to the tire when removed usually....I think perhaps from the bead soap used to install the tire) but the fact they are spread all the way around the circumfrence of the tire and in some areas more so than others....they clearly are adding more weight in some places)
So the question then is whether it is the right places? and is it really needed?
Well I just did front and rears on a Victory Vision a few weeks ago(big heavy rims and tires, as in likely upwards of 25+ pounds each) and no beads in stock, we decided to not install any beads.
I did look at the balance needs of them but used no weights (he doesn't like the look)
front was wanting 15g and the rear was wanting 35g (I did mark the rim so they could be added, but he said he would add the beads later, to which as of this morning he still has not picked up nor has he added them)
He rode off with it "needing" those weights added but they were not.
He has yet to experience anything that he can feel upto and including about 85mph. Now he is questioning the added expense at each tire change...
Just to throw another perspective and feed this further;
My thought, just because the bike does a decent job masking the symptoms doesn't necessarily mean there isn't a problem and any side affects.
I see bikes all the time with rims that have .010"+ of lateral wheel run out (some with actual curb or pothole dents right on one lip or both)and physically you can see the wheel "hop" when spun. Nearly none of these people even notice or feel a thing- but I can often see the effects in the tire wear after several thousand miles.
Anyways-I think one should balance the tire-with the weights, the beads or the liquid stuff....is one better than another-that is debateable but I would stand by the weights as they physically won't move and you know they are where you need them (you can see that) the beads or the slime, well that technically can all gather back at the bottom of the wheel everytime it stops rotating (although that has not been my experience seeing them come back off the rim)
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Actually Max, it did prove something. That the first balance attempt with weights wasn't done correctly...
Well, that is true
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Here's my report on the Dyna Beads...
I put in the recommended 1oz in the front and 2oz in the rear, I road it for about a week and was very disappointed in the vibes I felt around 40 to 45 mph around town, also at HWY speed around 65 mph, and also at higher speed (which I won't mention... :-X ).
So before giving up on them entirely I added another 1oz to each front and rear = 2oz front and 3oz rear. Immediately the vibes were gone, it now rides very smooth at all speeds. So my guess is that it just needed more weight/beads.
I know many folks say these don't work and they say that having never tried them...
I had no bias on em one way or they other, I had never tried them before, the only reason I did now was because I was looking for an alternative to sticking grey, black, or silver weights on my new gold wheels. I'll keep running them in these gold wheels and report back if anything changes, but so far so good after a couple hundred miles.
I'll also point out though that I will not run beads in all my wheels, I'll continue to use black stick on weights on my black wheels, because they blend right in and it's a non-issue, stick-on wheel weights are cheap (if not free with install) so why spend $30 on beads in that case...
That's my opinion, feel free to have your own, but if you've never tried them I hold no value in your opinion.
:) :chugbeer:
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I put in the recommended 1oz in the front and 2oz in the rear, I road it for about a week and was very disappointed in the vibes I felt around 40 to 45 mph around town, also at HWY speed around 65 mph, and also at higher speed (which I won't mention... :-X ).
So before giving up on them entirely I added another 1oz to each front and rear = 2oz front and 3oz rear. Immediately the vibes were gone, it now rides very smooth at all speeds. So my guess is that it just needed more weight/beads.
But how long did you try with no beads and no weights?
I know many folks say these don't work and they say that having never tried them...
Not me; I have no idea if they work or not, just interested in the topic.
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But how long did you try with no beads and no weights?
I didn't, I was gonna try it but my shop advised against it and said they wouldn't do it.
My guess is it would have felt like it did with the 1oz & 2oz, out of balance, but even more severe.
The vibes I felt with the 1oz & 2oz had to have been from being out of balance, but then with the 2oz & 3oz the vibes completely disappeared, meaning balanced IMO.
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Logically these beads make sense... the only question I have is, what kind of damage can they do to the tire pressure sensors. I don' t think the sensors were designed to take repeated impact from BBs
Please keep this thread updated; I'm dying to know how they fare.
Snype
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Logically these beads make sense... the only question I have is, what kind of damage can they do to the tire pressure sensors. I don' t think the sensors were designed to take repeated impact from BBs
Please keep this thread updated; I'm dying to know how they fare.
Snype
Well the TPS is mounted to the actual wheel, and the beads are in the tire, so I'd think impact would be minimal if not none when the wheel is spinning, just FYI but the beads are really small, like smaller than a tiny pin head... :-\
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I really aint worried about the TPS issue, but the centerline of the tire, on the inside, ceramic is extremly abrasive, polished or not.
Ok, here you go Chet, yer wrong bro, eat crow! ;D :chugbeer:
I had to get a new rear tire today, the inside of the tire I took off that I've been running the dyna beads in shows absolutely no signs of wear or marks of any kind, I even took a pic as you requested. :)
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/poiwueiwue_zps9a627170.jpg) (http://s1200.photobucket.com/user/jaywilcox/media/poiwueiwue_zps9a627170.jpg.html)
FWIW the tech said the TPS looked great as well, no signs of abuse or marks on it at all. :)
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Smoke and mirrors, Jay. We all know that dynabeads self destruct tires. How do we know that's not the new tire, eh? Paranoid minds want to know! :rotflmao:
PS... Thanks for the feedback!
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Smoke and mirrors, Jay. We all know that dynabeads self destruct tires. How do we know that's not the new tire, eh? Paranoid minds want to know! :rotflmao:
PS... Thanks for the feedback!
;D ;D ;D
Nope, no fibbing when it comes to farkles Sparky, that is the tire that was taken off, I promise. :chugbeer:
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:chugbeer: back at you!
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How come you needed a new rear tire J?
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How come you needed a new rear tire J?
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Translation: "You don't ride enough and didn't mention damage and put the dynabead things in there not long ago.... so what's up with replacing the rear tire??"
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How come you needed a new rear tire J?
Gotta nail in it... >:(
The tire was about toast anyway though, I was gonna replace it before heading off to the National next month, but I was hoping to get another month out of it that way when I headed off on the trip it would be on fresh rubber. :(
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Translation: "You don't ride enough and didn't mention damage and put the dynabead things in there not long ago.... so what's up with replacing the rear tire??"
The tire wasn't new when it went on the gold rim, I put a couple thousand miles on it though with the beads in.
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Gotta nail in it... >:(
The tire was about toast anyway though, I was gonna replace it before heading off to the National next month, but I was hoping to get another month out of it that way when I headed off on the trip it would be on fresh rubber. :(
Ah Hah! The dynabeads attracted the nail. I knew that they were bad news!
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Ah Hah! The dynabeads attracted the nail.
Quite logical...
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Nothing wrong with crow pie ;) FWIW? I still won't run em. ;D
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Ah Hah! The dynabeads attracted the nail. I knew that they were bad news!
:rotflmao:
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:rotflmao: Back at ya, Jay!