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Offline ZG

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2012, 11:48:46 AM »
Ok you two, break it up or get a room.   :-*

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2012, 09:25:53 PM »
Ok you two, break it up or get a room.   :-*


Nah, no room for us, he loves all the oldtimers or the wimps. I'm just not willing to share.
Sorry rtarp' I think we're through.  :(  :'(

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2012, 04:40:48 AM »


Nah, no room for us, he loves all the oldtimers or the wimps. I'm just not willing to share.
Sorry rtarp' I think we're through.  :(  :'(

Sigh, that's how some of these internet romances go. One day you're hot, the next you're not. Such is the fickle heart.
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2012, 06:30:57 AM »
I almost sold my 2011 because of a high speed wobble that I got after I hit a softball sized rock and blew both tires and rims. The wobble wasn't there before, and now it wouldn't go away, happened at about 130mph plus. I finally figured out that it was the PR2's that I had put on after the crash, they were much "thinner" than the B-023's that came with the bike. After going back to the B-023's, the bike is dialed in at 150mph and I am glad to say I'm keeping my girl (Connie.) If I didn't want to ride at those speeds, I would've bought a bike that didn't share the same engine as the zx-14!
Interesting.  You are suggesting the PR2's have a stability problem. That is heresy on this forum. As far as I can recall, in 5 years only you, me and one other has ever posted anything negative about the PR2. By the way, I also blew a front rim hitting a softball sized rock.
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2012, 07:00:09 AM »
Interesting.  You are suggesting the PR2's have a stability problem. That is heresy on this forum. As far as I can recall, in 5 years only you, me and one other has ever posted anything negative about the PR2. By the way, I also blew a front rim hitting a softball sized rock.
I think what he is posting is that he had a problem with one set of PR2s.
As for the heresy, I think you'll find that most of us PR2/PR3 devotees will abandon them as soon as something better comes along. I know I will.  ;D

Personally I haven't tried the BT023s as I haven't needed to.
I changed from the BT021 because they were not just bad, but bordering on dangerous.
A great many other people agreed whereas I have only heard of a few people who prefer the BT021 over the PR2.
My personal experiences of the Exedras, BT45, BT-020 and BT021 have led me to the conclusion that Bridgestone don't make tyres for me. They seem to sell enough so I guess that some people like them.

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2012, 11:01:12 AM »
Interesting.  You are suggesting the PR2's have a stability problem. That is heresy on this forum. As far as I can recall, in 5 years only you, me and one other has ever posted anything negative about the PR2. By the way, I also blew a front rim hitting a softball sized rock.

What's up with you guys? Target fixation? You're supposed to drive AROUND those rocks.  :o
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2012, 05:14:56 PM »
What's up with you guys? Target fixation? You're supposed to drive AROUND those rocks.  :o
In my case it wasn't target fixation, I never saw the rock. More like looking in the wrong place, gazing at the scenery, getting cocky on a familiar road, failure to follow sipde. GONGGGG!
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #27 on: July 28, 2012, 07:56:58 AM »
I've often wondered how the sponsored pro's actually avoid target fixation

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #28 on: July 28, 2012, 09:11:44 AM »
I've often wondered how the sponsored pro's actually avoid target fixation



 
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #29 on: July 28, 2012, 10:29:07 AM »
I think a lot of things could cause a high speed wobble. I was at about 135mph on Thursday afternoon. I did it with a quicker acceleration than I usually would and in 4th gear which is also rare. I let off the throttle and wobbled hard. Let off the throttle just a bit more and shook worse and doubted saving it. I immediately throttled upward closer to 140mph, pushing hard out on both bars and let off the throttle a little slower this time. And all went good. Thank God!
I think it had a lot to do with the 200 lbs of work gear and the rate of forward pressure when I started to slow down. I'll have to open it up again when I have a lighter load on it. This was the first time I've ever had issues at high speed.
I got home and did an oil change on me and the C-14. We feel better now.
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #30 on: July 29, 2012, 08:36:03 AM »
scaffold
 do you have an aftermarket windscreen and was it up?  the other day i was 2 up with the bags on and full of stuff while using an atlanta scientific large windscreen in the down postion .  We touched 150 and i brought it down down hard with no wobble.  I have never experienced a high speed wobble with this bike and i do it freguently, i also have that ftermarket windscreen on.

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2012, 09:06:54 AM »
scaffold
 do you have an aftermarket windscreen and was it up?  the other day i was 2 up with the bags on and full of stuff while using an atlanta scientific large windscreen in the down postion .  We touched 150 and i brought it down down hard with no wobble.  I have never experienced a high speed wobble with this bike and i do it freguently, i also have that ftermarket windscreen on.

Wow, if I rode two up at that speed, it would be the last time she rode with me, ever!    :o
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #32 on: July 29, 2012, 09:33:28 AM »
I have one that I bought a while back and never used --let me know if your interested?

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2012, 11:40:46 AM »
I have a C-Baileys Euro and it was in the down position. I leave it down all the time this time of year unless it is pouring out. I won't go over 120 again until I have a lighter load, so I can get a better feel of what is triggering it. I did have an extra compression bag tied to the back seat with a cargo net. But I still am thinking there was too much forward momentum to let off the throttle that hard.
I have hit 150 with the screen up on my old bike 2008 C-14 with no issues too.
Joel from Maine.

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2012, 11:32:54 AM »
Running with a light load in the bags (prob. 200 #'s of man and gear), PR3's, stock windshield in the down position, pretty calm day, hit 135 mph and cut the throttle. Experienced a wobble. That's the second time it's happened in pretty much the same scenario since getting the PR3's. Never happened with the OEM's.
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2012, 06:27:42 PM »
I might start blaming the PR3s as well then. Although I do love them.
Joel from Maine.

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #36 on: August 02, 2012, 06:05:12 AM »
Those experiencing the PR2/PR3 high speed wobbles, would you reveal if the rear tire is a 50 or a 55?

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #37 on: August 02, 2012, 08:30:10 AM »
so... the OEM Stones are great, uh?
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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #38 on: August 02, 2012, 08:33:31 AM »
I have PR3's and zero wobble. The bike is rock steady at any speed. 27,000 miles on a 2010.

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Re: High speed wobble
« Reply #39 on: August 02, 2012, 08:58:44 AM »
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- imho , at very high speeds , the rider's position/posture on the bike is very important.

- elbows bent , forearms parallel with the ground and a light hold on the grips.

- try that and let the bike do her thing

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