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Offline Maverick

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Immobilizer issue
« on: August 21, 2011, 09:17:00 AM »
After getting gas, the bike would not start and the dash showed a message "immobilizer error" along with a top left red light on, I switched off and on the main red right switch then the bike started again.

I would just like to understand what this message meant, as I would not like to be stranded and not knowing what could be done.
Any ideas?
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 09:21:52 AM »
There is a known issue between KiPass and some Mobil gas pumps (petrol pumps?) if the pump has a remote reading feature called (I think) Speedpass, which is a system where a person can buy fuel with nothing other than a fob from Mobil. It is very much like KiPass and apparently interferes with that system. Moving the bike a few feet away from the pump seems to end the problem.

Do you have a similar service where you are? If so that might be the problem.

Brian


Quote from: Maverick on August 21, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
After getting gas, the bike would not start and the dash showed a message "immobilizer error" along with a top left red light on, I switched off and on the main red right switch then the bike started again.

I would just like to understand what this message meant, as I would not like to be stranded and not knowing what could be done.
Any ideas?
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 09:25:47 AM »
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 09:27:49 AM »
Yes, I think he is Dutch.

(now go ahead and tell me that wasn't witty....)

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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 09:57:32 AM »
Quote from: B.D.F. on August 21, 2011, 09:27:49 AM
Yes, I think he is Dutch.

(now go ahead and tell me that wasn't witty....)

Brian

Yes Brian, well done.   

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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2011, 11:01:38 AM »
Oh well, here we go again adding humor and self perceived wit.   :banghead:
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2011, 11:26:58 AM »
Quote from: B.D.F. on August 21, 2011, 09:27:49 AM
Yes, I think he is Dutch.

(now go ahead and tell me that wasn't witty....)

Brian

Thanks Brian, indeed I was at an Esso gas station ( Exxon Mobil) in Europe, but I had taken gas many times there without any issue...

BTW, I am a US citizen, living in the Netherlands !!
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 11:45:46 AM »
Quote from: Maverick on August 21, 2011, 11:26:58 AM
Thanks Brian, indeed I was at an Esso gas station ( Exxon Mobil) in Europe, but I had taken gas many times there without any issue...

BTW, I am a US citizen, living in the Netherlands !!

If this country keeps heading toward the sewer, I am debating moving there someday.
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 11:54:01 AM »
Does Esso have some type of 'automatic' recognition system for its customers? As I said, Mobil calls it Speedpass here and it is apparently on the same frequency as the fobs are on US bikes (I believe you are on a different frequency in Europe).

OFFTOPIC: I have spent a little time in The Netherlands; we have friends in a small town named Arcen, near Venlo. I spent a day driving over that new reclamation project on the coast- amazing feat of civil engineering! Nice country and nice people as long as you do not tell them that Dutch sounds like German to a native English speaker.  :D

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Quote from: Maverick on August 21, 2011, 11:26:58 AM
Thanks Brian, indeed I was at an Esso gas station ( Exxon Mobil) in Europe, but I had taken gas many times there without any issue...

BTW, I am a US citizen, living in the Netherlands !!
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 03:08:26 PM »
Quote from: Maverick on August 21, 2011, 09:17:00 AM
After getting gas, the bike would not start and the dash showed a message "immobilizer error" along with a top left red light on, I switched off and on the main red right switch then the bike started again.

I would just like to understand what this message meant, as I would not like to be stranded and not knowing what could be done.
Any ideas?

B.D.F. may be right.  A friend and I just did a 4250 mile trip through North Carolina then up through Canada and around the top of the Great Lakes then back down through Minnesota.  At one gas stop I shut off the bike and filled up then when I pushed the key, nothing.  I can't remember which brand it was but it was one that accepted some sort of fob payment.  After a brief moment of panic, my buddy told me he'd heard of some fob payment pumps interfering with KiPass and to push the bike away from the pump; I did and all was good.
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2011, 05:01:59 AM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on August 21, 2011, 11:01:38 AM
Oh well, here we go again adding humor and self perceived wit.   :banghead:

Whatever shall we do?
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2011, 11:34:47 AM »
Hey, you want free entertainment and you want it to be good too?

Brian


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Whatever shall we do?
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2011, 11:39:17 AM »
Quote from: B.D.F. on August 22, 2011, 11:34:47 AM
Hey, you want free entertainment and you want it to be good too?

Brian

Is that too much to ask?  ;)
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2011, 04:58:38 PM »
I was expecting a thread about a spouse 8)
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2011, 01:21:39 PM »
I still chanced it and went away on a 1500 mile ride, no problem at all.
I changed the FOB battery and W40'd the ignition spring,to minimize Keypass issues.
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #15 on: August 25, 2011, 01:53:10 PM »
Quote from: Maverick on August 25, 2011, 01:21:39 PM
I still chanced it and went away on a 1500 mile ride, no problem at all.
I changed the FOB battery and W40'd the ignition spring,to minimize Keypass issues.

You sprayed WD40 into the ignition?
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2011, 02:00:14 PM »
I thought we were just supposed to remove the key and rinse the assembly out with a garden hose now and then....



Is this not the correct method?

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You sprayed WD40 into the ignition?
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2011, 02:10:56 PM »
Quote from: B.D.F. on August 25, 2011, 02:00:14 PM
I thought we were just supposed to remove the key and rinse the assembly out with a garden hose now and then....



Is this not the correct method?

Brian

Seems fine to me.
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2011, 02:18:29 PM »
thats the way  8)
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Re: Immobilizer issue
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2011, 09:56:09 AM »
Quote from: Conrad on August 25, 2011, 01:53:10 PM
You sprayed WD40 into the ignition?

If Brian's technique does not work, yes you can spray some WD40 as shown below, sometimes the spring gets stuck and you cannot start the bike with this damn keypass ! It may not be strong enough after all for this system.

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