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Offline tchinkov

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #160 on: December 01, 2015, 05:18:23 PM »
I ride a lot, pretty much everyday and put 20,000+ a year on my bike so forking out over $500 every tire change gets old after a while!
Agree


I have to admit I like the feel of the PR4's better
And agree..  Less than 1mm chicken strip on these :)

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #161 on: December 01, 2015, 05:22:19 PM »
I've had 3 sets of them already. Well, 2 sets of the PR4 and one of the PR3.

Neither of those are the PR4GT, which is what he was recommending...
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #162 on: December 01, 2015, 05:26:01 PM »
Neither of those are the PR4GT, which is what he was recommending...
Yeah The GT 'thingy' is important :)

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #163 on: December 01, 2015, 06:41:51 PM »
Neither of those are the PR4GT, which is what he was recommending...

You guys, come on now...just because I typed the PR4 and not the GT...really? To make you happy, I have had 1 set of PR3 GT's and 2 sets of PR4 GT's. Why would someone NOT put the GT on their bike? I guess maybe some do but I wonder why they wouldn't go GT? You guys and your details ::)!!
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #164 on: December 01, 2015, 06:51:30 PM »
OK  ;)

Please tell me about the tire on the picture you posted. Is it really more worn on the edges than at the center?
« Last Edit: December 01, 2015, 07:35:49 PM by tchinkov »

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #165 on: December 01, 2015, 08:07:43 PM »
Yeah The GT 'thingy' is important :)

GT = Good Tire ?
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #166 on: December 01, 2015, 08:18:14 PM »
GT = Good Tire ?
Or maybe Great Tire?   ;)

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #167 on: December 01, 2015, 10:03:05 PM »
You guys, come on now...just because I typed the PR4 and not the GT...really? To make you happy, I have had 1 set of PR3 GT's and 2 sets of PR4 GT's.

Michelin didn't make a Pilot Road GT model until the PR4 :)

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Why would someone NOT put the GT on their bike? I guess maybe some do but I wonder why they wouldn't go GT?

The GT variant was designed *specifically* for heavy sports-touring like the Concours 1400.  The C14 is heavy, even solo, and the extra support will help the tire keep the proper shape for longer tread life and better performance.  Yet some people believe that they don't need the extra sidewall rigidity because they only ride solo and should save the $19 in price and/or believe they will somehow get better performance out of the non-GT.

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You guys and your details ::)!!

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #168 on: December 01, 2015, 10:06:27 PM »

The GT variant was designed *specifically* for heavy sports-touring like the Concours 1400.  The C14 is heavy, even solo, and the extra support will help the tire keep the proper shape for longer tread life and better performance.
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #169 on: December 02, 2015, 12:40:18 AM »
Michelin didn't make a Pilot Road GT model until the PR4 :)

The GT variant was designed *specifically* for heavy sports-touring like the Concours 1400.  The C14 is heavy, even solo, and the extra support will help the tire keep the proper shape for longer tread life and better performance.  Yet some people believe that they don't need the extra sidewall rigidity because they only ride solo and should save the $19 in price and/or believe they will somehow get better performance out of the non-GT.

God is in the details!  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_devil_is_in_the_detail

What I have found to be most important for the twisties and hi-speed sweepers is a rear tire PR4 with a 55 profile- no tire holds a better line and gets me a gigglin' in my helmet.

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #170 on: December 02, 2015, 06:24:38 AM »
Tire threads are starting to look like oil threads, Geez C-14 owners have thousands of miles
on PR-2 - PR-4 with no issues.

I can't fault Michelin for their marketing campaign though and until Michelin puts out bulletin advising otherwise  PR-2 through
PR-4 tires are made for the C-14. I do not like the effort required to install the GT and the ride is much harsher according to those that tried them
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #171 on: December 02, 2015, 06:54:15 AM »
You guys, come on now...just because I typed the PR4 and not the GT...really? To make you happy, I have had 1 set of PR3 GT's and 2 sets of PR4 GT's. Why would someone NOT put the GT on their bike? I guess maybe some do but I wonder why they wouldn't go GT? You guys and your details ::)!!

Mike, you know how it is around here. You need to say and type everything perfect. Thanks for your correction. Oh, by the way, you forgot a comma in your sentence too. :)

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #172 on: December 02, 2015, 07:16:36 AM »
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You need to say and type everything perfect.

perfectly

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #173 on: December 02, 2015, 07:27:04 AM »
What I have found to be most important for the twisties and hi-speed sweepers is a rear tire PR4 with a 55 profile- no tire holds a better line and gets me a gigglin' in my helmet.
+1 for the 55

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #174 on: December 02, 2015, 08:36:30 AM »

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #175 on: December 02, 2015, 08:54:52 AM »
Mike, you know how it is around here. You need to say and type everything perfect. Thanks for your correction. Oh, by the way, you forgot a comma in your sentence too. :)

LOL...sorry! Max, where were you when I forgot the comma????
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #176 on: December 02, 2015, 09:35:12 AM »
Correct punktuation and speling appreciated...
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #177 on: December 02, 2015, 02:47:17 PM »
LOL...sorry! Max, where were you when I forgot the comma????

Sorry, but I am not a grammar nazi!  http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Grammar+Nazi
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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #178 on: December 02, 2015, 05:29:55 PM »
You should (if you haven't yet) try Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT. The GT, not the regular. These are IMHO superior to any other available for the Connie.

This is a interesting pic you've posted. Is it just me seeing wrong or it is actually the sides of the tire worn more than the center?

Yes its worn on the edge, maybe not right on the edg but about 1in front the edge. That spot that looks like a wear bar on the shoulder of the tire wasn't a wear bar its the bottom of the tread. Here is a pic of what the tread should look like

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Re: I'm Scared to lean now...
« Reply #179 on: December 02, 2015, 05:35:47 PM »
I'm currently running the Angel GT's. How do you like the B.S. T30's?
They feel geat, the front is wearing well but the rear worn out quick. The problem i was having with the angels was cupping of the front tire that went away with the T30. Id say bang for buck on the pair its about a even trade.  I might try the PR4 next after i mount another t30 rear and use up the front some more. All this is based on a heavy 300lb agressive rider.