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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2014, 03:15:50 PM »
1 inch wide by 1/8" thickness.  I bent them, sandblasted them and just spray painted them.  The next time I have something powder coated I will take them off and do it "right". :)

Sorry for all the questions but did you bend the "side tabs" too...the tabs that hold the bracket against the arm they are bolted to? I guess you could call them "wings" but they are the small bent tabs that keep the bracket from "swinging".
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2014, 03:25:55 PM »
Sorry for all the questions but did you bend the "side tabs" too...the tabs that hold the bracket against the arm they are bolted to? I guess you could call them "wings" but they are the small bent tabs that keep the bracket from "swinging".

No.  In order to keep them from swinging and really solidify the mount I used the existing reflector bolt AND drilled a second hole lower down on the mount and through the brace behind the bracket and used a second bolt.  These lights are not going anywhere.
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2014, 03:27:35 PM »
No.  In order to keep them from swinging and really solidify the mount I used the existing reflector bolt AND drilled a second hole lower down on the mount and through the brace behind the bracket and used a second bolt.  These lights are not going anywhere.

That's what I'm going to do...I liked having my lights down there. Thank you for the info...I really appreciate it!
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2014, 03:28:37 PM »
That's what I'm going to do...I liked having my lights down there. Thank you for the info...I really appreciate it!

No problem...good luck with the project. :)
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2014, 03:31:56 PM »
No problem...good luck with the project. :)

I need it. Did it once and $1300 and a new radiator later and I'm doing it again :nuts:!!
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2014, 02:50:18 AM »
The LED's under my mirrors are 2000 lumens but dim with my Lo Beams so the 2000 is when I use HI beam.

The fogs I mount near my front when are 1100 lumens and have a 15deg  elliptical beam...great for lighting through corners.

Those numbers look high, very high. Too high, almost. Are you sure about them? Torch manufacturers like Fenix, SureFire, etc. have started using the ANSI/NEMA FL1 standard to avoid all the rubbish being claimed by noname manufacturers. To give you an idea, an old 60W tungsten filament bulb in your kitchen puts out about 700 lumens (albeit in a spherical distribution). That's about the output of an automotive/motorcycle headlight. A more modern xenon headlight reaches 2000 lumen.
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2014, 12:34:30 PM »
Those numbers look high, very high. Too high, almost. Are you sure about them? Torch manufacturers like Fenix, SureFire, etc. have started using the ANSI/NEMA FL1 standard to avoid all the rubbish being claimed by noname manufacturers. To give you an idea, an old 60W tungsten filament bulb in your kitchen puts out about 700 lumens (albeit in a spherical distribution). That's about the output of an automotive/motorcycle headlight. A more modern xenon headlight reaches 2000 lumen.

Those are the numbers listed for the lights on the website. Pretty risky for a company to post numbers and then to chance having someone that knows how to test the brightness to do so and call foul so I have to believe those are the numbers. The lights under my mirrors, when not dimmed, are REALLY bright! Heck, they're bright when they're dimmed! John is really easy to talk with and very helpful so feel free to call and talk with him and ask him questions...that's what I did before buying them because there are sooooo many choices out there when it comes to lights. John was the most helpful out of the several vendors I contacted.

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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2014, 10:08:23 PM »
Those are the numbers listed for the lights on the website. Pretty risky for a company to post numbers and then to chance having someone that knows how to test the brightness to do so and call foul so I have to believe those are the numbers.

I see bogus lumen numbers on LEDs all the time now.  I have to agree with Martin- I have a hard time believing a tiny auxiliary LED driving lamp is 2,000 lumens.  I also see bogus wattage ratings all the time (and I have bought LED bulbs claiming to be "10 watts!" that pull about 2.5 measured.  Not saying it isn't possible, but LEDs react VERY badly to heat, and high brightness LED fixtures need a lot of surface area for adequate heat sink and cooling.  If not, their life is severely shortened.  Would help to know which model and/or a true measurement of amperage.

Example- a Cree brand home LED fixture (A/E27) that is 9.5 watts and 800 lumens has a heat sink that is as big as most add-on vehicle LED lights I have seen.  And the Cree bulbs are accurate- they produce as much light as other 800 lumen bulbs and I measured them actually pulling 9.5 watts.
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2014, 03:44:40 AM »
HB, thanks for the explanations, it's just what Maxtog said, so many "optimistic" claims. An LED needs to get rid of heat in order to ensure service life and, although a motorcycle is slightly better ventilated than a dining-room  ;) it still needs heat sinks when pulling out 2000 lumens. Given that an LED makes 20 to 40 lm/watt, that'd mean at least 50 watts, and I'd bet that's simply NOT the case, unless you're talking about all your set up together.
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2014, 08:23:32 AM »
Nope...that was each pair of lights. Like I said, that is what the site claims. Who knows what the true number is but the lights work and they work well so, whatever the lumens may be, I'm happy with them. The main reason I added the lights was so oncoming and cross traffic would see me coming...not for night riding (although they do help at night). So far they seem to be working as planned!
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2014, 09:39:24 AM »
I was able to remount the fog lights. Machined my own standoffs and mounted them using the hole for the reflector brackets, eliminating the brackets altogether. The solution feels really solid and stable. Don't think the lights are going anywhere now!
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2014, 10:02:49 AM »
I was able to remount the fog lights. Machined my own standoffs and mounted them using the hole for the reflector brackets, eliminating the brackets altogether. The solution feels really solid and stable. Don't think the lights are going anywhere now!

Nice work!  Looks solid.
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2014, 10:08:16 AM »
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2014, 09:30:26 PM »
Build bridges, not walls.

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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2014, 10:34:19 AM »
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2014, 07:27:48 AM »
I read about the thin reflector metal breaking.  Bought some flat steel and simply bent them to match the reflector bracket.  It is very stout.

XSV thanks for the pics did it this week worked out good.   :D
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2014, 08:48:20 AM »
XSV thanks for the pics did it this week worked out good.   :D


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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2015, 07:00:55 PM »
I did the same as xsp did with flat stock. The first one cracked in the same place as the stock one did after 20k. Just made another set, no issues with right side breaking just left. Keep an eye on it in either case

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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2015, 08:41:47 PM »
no issues with right side breaking just left.

The left side is the one that broke on me as well...had no issues with the right!
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Re: LED Light Mounting Options
« Reply #39 on: January 22, 2015, 01:37:29 PM »
What are some good under the mirror brackets?