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Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« on: December 08, 2013, 11:49:08 AM »
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Wanted to pass along some info on the latest sport touring tire: Michelin Pilot Road 4.

The Pilot Road 4's are similar to the 3's, in that they are heavily focused on wet weather handling and grip. The biggest improvement, is a claimed 20% greater tire life. The Pilot Road 3's were fairly impressive as it was, so 20% more tire life on the Pilot Road 4's sounds fantastic.

The Michelin Pilot Road 4 is going to be available in 3 different versions:

Standard, for all around sport touring use.

GT, which offers a stiffer casing for heavier bikes, riding two up with luggage, etc. These are going to be the standard issue tire for the BMW R1200 RT.

Trail, which is NOT an off-road tire, but a tire designed to be used on trail bikes that are ridden 100% on the road. The main difference in the trail version is the compounds are softer in the rear.

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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2013, 12:55:23 PM »
Are you quoting yourself?  I am confused...
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2013, 01:51:15 PM »
Situation normal..
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2013, 03:09:36 PM »
I have been using the Angel ST's and they feel great for the first 1K, after that lean in's are quite different.  I have a new set of GT's, if they are no better then the PR4's will be next.
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2013, 03:54:34 PM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on December 08, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
Situation normal..

Which part?  Him quoting himself, me being confused, or both?
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2013, 06:05:08 PM »


I'm quoting a tire critic. Obviously I haven't personally had the pleasure of torturing a set of these yet to comment, hence the quote.
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2013, 08:46:03 PM »
I'll be trying them.
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2013, 08:54:50 PM »
Quote from: Scaffolder on December 08, 2013, 08:46:03 PM
I'll be trying them.

You and me both.  Although if i see PR3's on clearance I'll buy a truckload too
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 03:28:16 AM »
Quote from: maxtog on December 08, 2013, 03:54:34 PM
Which part?  Him quoting himself, me being confused, or both?

All four...
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 10:12:35 AM »
"GT, which offers a stiffer casing for heavier bikes, riding two up with luggage, etc. These are going to be the standard issue tire for the BMW R1200 RT."

Since the R1200 RT is lighter then our Connies, I would assume we should be using the GT version and not the Standard version. Thoughts?
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 11:54:37 AM »
Quote from: Rhino on December 09, 2013, 10:12:35 AM
"GT, which offers a stiffer casing for heavier bikes, riding two up with luggage, etc. These are going to be the standard issue tire for the BMW R1200 RT."

Since the R1200 RT is lighter then our Connies, I would assume we should be using the GT version and not the Standard version. Thoughts?

+1

I'm wondering if that tire is heavier?  I haven't had probs with light sport-bike tires such as Pilot Powers and 2CT on my C14, they just wear quicker like to be expected from a soft light  sportbike tire
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 02:55:01 PM »
So there is "Standard sports touring" and "Heavier bike sports touring"?  If the R1200RT is considered "heavy" then I am curious as to what bikes are really any lighter than that which are also apparently considered "heavier sports touring"....

R1200RT:  571 wet
FJR1300:  650 wet
GTR1400: 670 wet
K1600GT: 754 wet  (barely "sport" touring at this point)

It does make it seem like we should be using the GT...
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 03:28:14 PM »
Do they have a fitment chart that specifies what PR4 to use on the C14 yet?
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 05:04:34 PM »
Better in the wet than the PR3 and better mileage? I just wonder about the cost.

http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/michelin-pilot-road-4-tires
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2013, 05:51:12 AM »
Quote from: maxtog on December 09, 2013, 02:55:01 PM
So there is "Standard sports touring" and "Heavier bike sports touring"?  If the R1200RT is considered "heavy" then I am curious as to what bikes are really any lighter than that which are also apparently considered "heavier sports touring"....

R1200RT:  571 wet
FJR1300:  650 wet
GTR1400: 670 wet
K1600GT: 754 wet  (barely "sport" touring at this point)

It does make it seem like we should be using the GT...
For guys who want to sport tour on their ninja 650, Versys 650, zzr 600, and even their zx10r.
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2013, 08:22:48 AM »
Quote from: maxtog on December 09, 2013, 02:55:01 PM
So there is "Standard sports touring" and "Heavier bike sports touring"?  If the R1200RT is considered "heavy" then I am curious as to what bikes are really any lighter than that which are also apparently considered "heavier sports touring"....

R1200RT:  571 wet
FJR1300:  650 wet
GTR1400: 670 wet
K1600GT: 754 wet  (barely "sport" touring at this point)

It does make it seem like we should be using the GT...

Multistrada 1200: 494 wet

But I agree. We are at the heavy end of ST so assuming the GT would be the preference for the C14.
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« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2013, 11:02:49 AM »
Size availability:

Michelin Pilot Road 4 Standard
120/60 ZR 17
120/70 ZR 17
150/70 ZR 17
160/60 ZR 17
180/55 ZR 17
190/50 ZR 17
190/55 ZR 17

Michelin Pilot Road 4 GT
120/70 ZR 17
120/70 ZR 18
170/60 ZR 17
180/55 ZR 17
190/50 ZR 17
190/55 ZR 17
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Re: Pilot Rds...best keep getting BETTER!
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2013, 04:19:41 PM »
Quote from: twowheeladdict on December 10, 2013, 05:51:12 AM
For guys who want to sport tour on their ninja 650, Versys 650, zzr 600, and even their zx10r.

I thought "sport tour" was more of the bike category, not something you did with any sport bike...
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2013, 06:42:47 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2013, 05:30:49 PM »
Quote from: maxtog on December 10, 2013, 04:19:41 PM
I thought "sport tour" was more of the bike category, not something you did with any sport bike...

Well, you learned something new today.  The Versys, ninja 650, and ninja 1000 have genuine Kawasaki hard bags available to turn them into sport tourers.  In fact, in Europe, they have them with the bags already installed and call them tourers.
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