Like Rhino said- it won't affect that much. Keep in mind 6th is overdrive, it is a very tall gear that is not designed to have any power, it is for level cruising at high speed (generally over 65 MPH). To get the C14 into the power band in 6th puts you at a very illegal speed.
The Ghul reflash primarily addresses responsiveness, much of which I don't think will really show in a dyno printout. The secondary butterflies are what causes the lack of responsiveness and the flash essentially "disables" those butterflies by opening them fully, almost immediately. It DOES increase torque a little across the board (and hp), but that is not the main goal.
Would the reflash help with that "dead" feeling you get when you wind up fifth gear and switch to sixth? Feels like the bike even slows down a little.
Apologies, I wasn't watching this threadHow stock?
Lee is a local drag racer, does research for Brock, owns a ZX14 forum, owns a drag ZX14, but most importantly is a very good friend. He also owns a motorcycle business and when i'm to busy or lazy to fool with my 5 bikes his shop does the work. Recently hi front fork job on my ZX9, etc
He mentioned he'll have some drag strip time slips posted on the reflashed stock C14 soon
edit: he is smokinZX14 on his forum: http://zx1441r.com
the torque increase from 3000 to 6000 rpm is all that. thats the rpm range mine lives in unless I'm on it, this mod is attractive to me and I've never cared enough about the "performance" of my bike to do anything to it but this may be it
Please note you quoted a version of the post I had edited immediately afterwards, which currently doesn't say "a little".Change the exhaust, Max.
At 3K it is pretty impressive, jumping from about 66ft-lb to 78ft-lb. That is 18% more, something that will certainly be noticed by everyone. At the higher RPMs, like 6K, a 1ft-lb improvement at 88 isn't going to be noticeable by anyone (that is only a 1.1% improvement). At 5K it isn't much whoop either (+2 = 2.3%)
And yes indeed, 3K to 6K is an ideal range to add more torque. Would like to have seen 2.5K
How stock?
Change the exhaust, Max.
As to degrees of stockness is that an absolute or a relative measure?
You can ask Guhl to open the flys sooner than his normal flash , and they will , I had one of his local dealers who (drag races a ZX14 with his flash) send mine in , he told him about my cat less ZX 14 header and to open the flys sooner and I don't rev the motor as much anymore , short shift because of the torque increase, torque is a nice seat in the pants feeling
I wouldn't think so since the increase in torque is at the low end. But "wind up fifth gear" would have to going quite a bit faster than the 155 mph speed limiter in the ECU on the gen 2 bikes. So the reflash can remove that limiter and allow you to actually "wind up fifth gear" on gen 2 bikes.
If you are humming along in 6th, 2k rpms and want to pass someone, you don't necessarily have to downshift, just twist that throttle a little, you'll get moving. Before, you twist the throttle and it was like nothing happened.
I personally wouldn't recommend riding at 2K in 6th gear (or really any gear, except 1st, but especially the higher gears), because 2K is just too low and any amount of throttle in 6th with this type of engine.... there is lugging. Some will disagree with me, but I tend to think the minimum RPM for 6th gear is 3K. If I have to accelerate more than just a tiny amount while below 3.5K in 6th, I will drop to 5th. If I plan to cruise below 5K, I will just stay in 5th.Not really, the bike really feels pretty strong, doesn't feel unhappy at all. It is really nice having a 1400cc bike feel like it has 1400cc (or 13xx cc whatever it has).