Author Topic: I thought KIPASS Stranded Me Last Night.. (New Title) (Read 36541 times)

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #60 on:** June 20, 2013, 10:35:13 AM »

What makes you think I'm not?

Conrad · « **Reply #61 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:08:50 AM »

Quote from: B.D.F. on June 20, 2013, 09:50:16 AM

Yes, and thanks for that. Always better to understand what is going on I think.

And for whatever reason, I have been a bit slow on this thread. I failed to notice the 'still nothing' in your post and did not realize that you have a 5 year old battery. My apologies- reading compression has obviously failed me here. So yep, what the others said- new battery time.

And to you other folks, chill- ax. Save up that adrenaline in case you need it later for something like ~~running away from a fire or something~~ having to push your C14 home. We'll get to the bottom of this one even if I am being obtuse....

Brian

FIFY

B.D.F. · « **Reply #62 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:38:11 AM »

Nah, KiPass makes C-14's unstrandable.

Brian

Quote from: Conrad on June 20, 2013, 11:08:50 AM

FIFY

Burbs · « **Reply #63 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:19:57 PM »

Picked up a new battery and is being charged. Hopefully this will work tonight.

B.D.F. · « **Reply #64 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:26:19 PM »

OK, don't get nervous but about 10,000 people are watching and waiting....

Brian

Quote from: Burbs on June 20, 2013, 12:19:57 PM

Picked up a new battery and is being charged. Hopefully this will work tonight.

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #65 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:40:35 PM »

Quote from: B.D.F. on June 20, 2013, 11:38:11 AM

Nah, KiPass makes C-14's unstrandable.

Brian

All hail KIPASS!

Burbs · « **Reply #66 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:44:39 PM »

Quote from: B.D.F. on June 20, 2013, 12:26:19 PM

OK, don't get nervous but about 10,000 people are watching and waiting....

Brian

And not because they are curious about a solution. They are watching because they are tired of this thread!!! Don't blame them either!!

B.D.F. · « **Reply #67 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:56:17 PM »

Nah, most of them are watching like they watch the Miss America pageant- in the hopes of seeing someone 'step in it' in some form or another. Everyone is waiting for the report of exactly where the smoke gets out of your bike during these electrical experiments.....

All in jest, really I expect it will go fine. I mean the battery will even install backwards without a problem, Kawasaki has done it on dozens of bikes apparently.

Brian

Quote from: Burbs on June 20, 2013, 12:44:39 PM

And not because they are curious about a solution. They are watching because they are tired of this thread!!! Don't blame them either!!

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #68 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:56:31 PM »

No, we're not tired. We're just getting warmed up!

maxtog · « **Reply #69 on:** June 20, 2013, 04:19:11 PM »

Quote from: VirginiaJim on June 20, 2013, 07:09:30 AM

Replace the battery.

+1

Now that we know how old it is, it would be an excellent first step. It might not be the battery causing the problem, but it might be time for one anyway, and it certainly can't hurt. DO THIS FIRST.

After that....

However, the fact that the red light is now blinking and it does not "wake up" when you press the ignition key knob tends to point to:

1) The dreaded ignition wakeup switch (and you have a gen 1 bike which is more prone to that) (there are procedures elsewhere in this forum to test for that condition... maybe even a rock:) ).

2) Or a totally defective active Fob- which you can quickly eliminate that by attempted to use it passively by placing it correctly on the ignition area (SEE USER MANUAL), waiting 10 seconds, and pressing the knob to see if it wakes up.

3) Something far more serious with your electronics on the bike (blown ECU, bad connector, cut wire, etc). Let's save that thought as a last resort, because this would be quite rare. You have plenty of other homework first.

B.D.F. · « **Reply #70 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:05:59 PM »

It has been almost an hour, shouldn't someone tell Chris to change the battery?

OK, I'll do it myself- Hey Chris! Put a new battery in that bike!

Brian

Burbs · « **Reply #71 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:24:06 PM »

Quote from: B.D.F. on June 20, 2013, 05:05:59 PM

It has been almost an hour, shouldn't someone tell Chris to change the battery?

OK, I'll do it myself- Hey Chris! Put a new battery in that bike!

;D

Brian

I'm sitting here and the new battery didnt fix it. I checked the connections and they are all good. The gauge needles did their back and forth cycle (dont know the term) and still nothing. I'm now going to do the FOB trick that was mentioned above. I'm on my iPhone so I can't see it while posting this.

maxtog · « **Reply #72 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:44:31 PM »

Quote from: Burbs on June 20, 2013, 05:24:06 PM

I'm sitting here and the new battery didnt fix it. I checked the connections and they are all good. The gauge needles did their back and forth cycle (dont know the term) and still nothing. I'm now going to do the FOB trick that was mentioned above. I'm on my iPhone so I can't see it while posting this.

You are confusing us (or at least me) again. If the needles (speedometer and odometer) on the dash went back and forth, that is not nothing- it doesn't do that until you move the ignition knob/key from off to on, which occurs after you press it down and it clicks and lights up the screen. That is most certainly something.

And that does not fit the description you gave earlier where you said it did *NOTHING* except the red light blinking...

?

Burbs · « **Reply #73 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:05:29 PM »

Welp...the battery and the ignition trick did not work. As for the needles moving, correct me if I'm wrong, but the needles do move once the negative is connected, at least that is what mine does. I didnt touch the knob at all, it happened when the battery is fully connected. The red light does blink when I push the knob down still and I am not getting that clicking sound nor is the dash lighting up.

I'm far too aggravated with this and I am having it towed to my dealer tomorrow to get this figured out once and for all. You guys have been so patient with me and have been great in helping me trying to figure this out. I am grateful for that.

B.D.F. · « **Reply #74 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:20:22 PM »

First of all, yep, the needles on the gauges calibrate (move all the way clockwise to the stop, then counterclockwise to the zero position) when power is applied. So clearly you have a charge in the battery, the ECU is powering up and the bike is doing its 'power- up' thing. After that, I assume nothing is happening when you press the key down but that is more difficult to troubleshoot than just replacing the battery.

As far as the frustration goes, I understand completely. We all have different levels of ability in different areas and different levels of annoyance in different areas. You are a bit out of your element here and it IS frustrating when the path forward is not clear. Besides all of that, from here on out it will begin to take more deliberate troubleshooting along with more and more complicated tools, which you may not have. So I do not think it is foolish or too soon to call in professional help in these types of circumstances. Unfortunately it will cost something certainly but at least there is an expectation of progress, which is a good thing in itself I think. So again, the best of luck and by all means let us know how it goes from here. Also, of course ask any questions you may have along the way; even if a dealer says something, it is not always accurate and more opinions may help you figure out what to do next.

When this is all over, you may have to change the title of this thread back to what it was originally....

Brian

Quote from: Burbs on June 20, 2013, 06:05:29 PM

Welp...the battery and the ignition trick did not work. As for the needles moving, correct me if I'm wrong, but the needles do move once the negative is connected, at least that is what mine does. I didnt touch the knob at all, it happened when the battery is fully connected. The red light does blink when I push the knob down still and I am not getting that clicking sound nor is the dash lighting up.

I'm far too aggravated with this and I am having it towed to my dealer tomorrow to get this figured out once and for all. You guys have been so patient with me and have been great in helping me trying to figure this out. I am grateful for that.