Shinko Verge 011

[sf bay rider]

I finally wore out my Perelli ST Angels after 11.6K miles. The Shinko Verge 011 that have been sitting on the shelf for about two years. Have been installed. After a few hundred miles run in. They handle quite well. With two exceptions. It takes about three or four miles. Before they feel warmed up and have a solid well gripped feeling on the road. The Verge 011, feels a lot stiffer when riding. The two exceptions aforementioned are purely subjective on my part. Handling, cornering and stopping, no issues.
 
As with all the previous tire sets. Tires are inflated to 45psi fore and aft.  I invite fellow members of this forum to comment.  Share any thoughts and or experiences they have encountered with the Shinko Verge 011 tire.

I feel sufficiently impressed with the quality and price of this tire set. That I have ordered a replacement set of Shinko Verge 011 tires.

More as things develop.

Jack
 

[texrider]

Probably a good tire, but I'd let a little air out of them.

[lather]

I've run three sets of Verges and I like their handling and grip as well or better than any of the many ST tires I have tried, including Mich. Dunlop, Conti, Avon and Parelli. I have gotten the best mileage out of them also. They are heavy and stiff and I am not surprised you get a harsh ride at 45 psi. I run 39 front and 42 rear and they do not feel harsh to me. Also, I have never noticed a long warm up time.
My only two complaints about the Verge is that the stiff carcass makes them the hardest tires to mount and dismount and the tread grooves do not run through the center so it is hard to judge when they will be worn out.

[stevewfl]

I can't argue their long life but if you want performance as a priority use a better tire

shinkos are known for being hard, if yours has sat on a shelf two years in the garage I'd be extra cautious with it, especially in cold climates

[sf bay rider]

I live in the San Francisco bay area. Ride year round and have used 45 psi in all my tire sets without ill effect.
I do like the Shinko Verge 011, so far. Especially, the handling properties. No lane drift either and that is a big plus.

Jack

[lather]

I live in the San Francisco bay area. Ride year round and have used 45 psi in all my tire sets without ill effect.
I do like the Shinko Verge 011, so far. Especially, the handling properties. No lane drift either and that is a big plus.

Jack

Well, you said it takes about three or four miles before they feel warmed up and  feel a lot stiffer when riding. Those are what I consider ill effects, which I don't have on mine at lower psi. But it sounds like you get better mileage than me so maybe it is a fair trade-off.

[PH14]

I got over 8,000 miles out of the front stock Stones and over 10,000 miles out of the stock rear Stones. I run 42 psi. I would rather sacrifice a very tiny amount of mileage and have some grip, before 4 miles by running what is recommended. I also believe 45 is above the max pressure recommended by the manufacturer for that tire. I see nothing but problems. I would rather be safe. Besides, in less than a half a mile from my house, I can get to the edge of a tire, so there are curves nearby and I would prefer to be able to round them without mishap.

[sf bay rider]

As I, have stated in the original post. The comments are subjective in nature. It was getting use to the handling characteristics of the new Shinko Verge 011. This is the first time using this brand. The tire set handles exceptionally well after 450 miles.
Zero lane drift, even when approaching 90mph on the interstate corners along my commute route. I remain quite impressed the tire handling and price point. Now I, will try to see how many miles this tire set will go. Bearing in mind that 85% of the mileage will be interstate and that I am not and aggressive rider. 

More as things develop,

Jack

[DeansZG]

 I put 16k on the 1st 011 Verge front tire that I ran on my C10 & had 6-7K on the 2nd one when I sold my C10 last summer & have nothing but positive comments for both of them! Never noticed any warm up issues, stuck like glue right from the get-go!  Every bit the equal to the numerous premium brands that I also ran up front!

[texrider]

I found the Full Bore tires to be awesome, also. 

http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33_1043_1044&products_id=6017

[sf bay rider]

I do hope the Shinko Verge 011 will indeed go 10K miles or more. A note, if Shinko is monitoring this forum. Perhaps they would consider developing a tire spec that would go a minimum of 15K miles. With a moderate price point. That indeed would catch my interest to purchase a tire that would last that long.   

The best prices I've seen for Verge 011 has been about $205-$235 for a new set, as of this entry. My replacement set was $215.00 coming for MotoSport.com

Jack

[Pokey]

As I, have stated in the original post. The comments are suggestive in nature. It was getting use to the handling characteristics of the new Shinko Verge 011. This is the first time using this brand. The tire set handles exceptionally well after 450 miles.
Zero lane drift, even when approaching 90mph on the interstate corners along my commute route. I remain quite impressed the tire handling and price point. Now I, will try to see how many miles this tire set will go. Bearing in mind that 85% of the mileage will be interstate and that I am not and aggressive rider. 

More as things develop,

Jack

Now that there is a darn shame with the insanely awesome roads you have out there. 

[CRocker]

I got 12k miles out of my Shinko 011 Verge front tire on my C10...and, it wasn't worn out yet!  I changed wheels, so the Verge went with the older wheel.  I was amazed by how it handled...even on roads with standing water in the "troughs" created by the 4-wheeler traffic...think I ran 38 or 39 psi and it was great. 

And, as Pokey said...it is a shame about your commute...but, at least it's a motorcycle commute!

[PH14]

As I, have stated in the original post. The comments are suggestive in nature. It was getting use to the handling characteristics of the new Shinko Verge 011. This is the first time using this brand. The tire set handles exceptionally well after 450 miles.
Zero lane drift, even when approaching 90mph on the interstate corners along my commute route. I remain quite impressed the tire handling and price point. Now I, will try to see how many miles this tire set will go. Bearing in mind that 85% of the mileage will be interstate and that I am not and aggressive rider. 

More as things develop,

Jack

I'm not dissing the tire, just the wisdom of running more pressure than is recommended for the tire. I believe you are creating an unsafe condition.

[zx12-iowa]

Can't comment on that tire but have used 009s.  The Connie likes 42 psi.  On other bikes the mftr recommended 42 but most ran like 34-36 psi for more traction.  Idid that too and lowered it to high 20s on track days.  But he Connie is different and I am comfortable at 40-42.  Higher than 44 and I feel it doesn't handle "right"

[Pokey]

Can't comment on that tire but have used 009s.  The Connie likes 42 psi.  On other bikes the mftr recommended 42 but most ran like 34-36 psi for more traction.  Idid that too and lowered it to high 20s on track days.  But he Connie is different and I am comfortable at 40-42.  Higher than 44 and I feel it doesn't handle "right"

Yup......anything more than 42 makes no sense, I am running 40 pretty consistently these days.

[sf bay rider]

As for 45psi for the tires. It works for me and may not feel right for other riders. I respect that fact and will not dispute, that I should not exceed 42psi. Again, it works for me. Thank you for your concern.

As for not being an aggressive rider. I've been down once and sustained sufficient injuries. In turn, my riding style is more conservative these days. I still do back roads, twisties, sweeps and yes, the highways. Albeit, at the suggested speed for
any given turn. Although I, still push the limits at times. 

Jack

[PH14]

I would look at the sidewall to see what the max pressure for the tire is. My guess, and it is only a guess, is that it is 42. If you are higher that that you are asking for trouble. I also believe you are taking a tire known for not having the best performance and making it worse. I'm not saying it is a horrible tire, I am just saying that it doesn't perform as well as others. You may not ride aggressively, but in a panic situation you will want all the traction you can get. You won't have that with the tire pumped up too hard.

[Daytona_Mike]

I would also check the date code on that sidewall. 2 years on the shelf and who knows how long it sat before you got it.
A four to five year old tire is normally dry rotted or at the very least performance has been severely reduced.

[Pokey]

As for 45psi for the tires. It works for me and may not feel right for other riders. I respect that fact and will not dispute, that I should not exceed 42psi. Again, it works for me. Thank you for your concern.

As for not being an aggressive rider. I've been down once and sustained sufficient injuries. In turn, my riding style is more conservative these days. I still do back roads, twisties, sweeps and yes, the highways. Albeit, at the suggested speed for
any given turn. Although I, still push the limits at times. 

Jack

We are looking out for you concerning the tire pressure, so nobody is going to apologize for that. Not even Goldwings run those kinds of pressures, and all that air in there makes the ride more rough and you for sure have less traction......trust me on that. You can only push luck so far for so long, luck can turn bad when you least expect it. And since you have already been down, yet another reason to air down a bit. Personally I wouldnt be running those tires in the first place, much better all around tires available for the C14 and those tires are not new to begin with. Tires do not typically sit on shelves for very long, they do harden up and start to break down. You never want to skimp on brakes nor tires......NEVER.


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