Shinko Verge 011

[sf bay rider]

PH14, thank you for your concern. It's a touching sentiment. Max psi for the Verge 011 is 42psi and so stamped on the sidewall
of the tire. As for panic stops. I avoid them, by training and practice. Seeking out professional training from former LEO's who were motor school instructors. Has been instrumental in my skill development as a rider. In turn, it has made me a safer rider.
I ride within my skill level, ever mindful of the fact. To practice what was learned, to the point, it becomes an automatic reaction
to perform a controlled stop. As for running the tires at 45psi. Stopping has never been an issue at that pressure for any of the tires brands. Bridgestone, Perelli or Shinko.  Again, thanks for your concern.

Pokey, thank you for you concern as well. I've lowered the pressure to 42 psi cold and will try it there. Sage advise well received and accepted as such, too.

The date codes on the Shinko's show they were manufactured the second week of May, 2011

[Pokey]

 

[VirginiaJim]

I'm not dissing the tire, just the wisdom of running more pressure than is recommended for the tire. I believe you are creating an unsafe condition.

I don't know about unsafe but it must ride like a Conestoga wagon...

[sf bay rider]

Jim, you're a hoot!   Actually, the ride is quite smooth and counter steering has improved, too. Again, all subjective on my part.

To all who have responded thus far. I would like to thank you for your concern and input, too.

Jack

[JerBear]

I don't know about unsafe but it must ride like a Conestoga wagon...

He's not driving a Goldwing he's on a Connie!     I'm thinking more like a Buckboard, they were zippy!

[sf bay rider]

I did have a Goldwing. It had a nice ride to it. A bit of a two wheel Conestoga wagon. A tad more fun, though.
Now I, have a 2010 Voyager ABS. That is a bit more like a two wheel Buckboard. With a nice rumble.

The Connie, agile, zippy and just plain fun! I like to thing of it as my "Radio Flyer" with two wheels. Albeit, with
a new set of Shinko shoes.

[C1xRider]

Just before I removed the stock stones, I pumped the front up to 45PSI, and it made that tire feel much better (for the 3 days it stayed on the wheel).  There may be something to what SF is saying, but I wouldn't run that pressure for long either.  Instead, I chose to buy better tires.

As for buying a new set and setting them on the shelves, I don't see any benefit in that, especially when you just installed a new set.  Rubber will harden just sitting on a shelf, and that equates to a lower coefficient of friction (less grip / less traction).  Since tires are readily available, why not wait until you're down on rubber and close to needing them?   I've had replacement tires sitting in the shop for months before, but only because the current set didn't wear out as fast as I thought they would.  Just more food for thought.   

[PH14]

As for panic stops. I avoid them, by training and practice. Seeking out professional training from former LEO's who were motor school instructors. Has been instrumental in my skill development as a rider. In turn, it has made me a safer rider.
I ride within my skill level, ever mindful of the fact. To practice what was learned, to the point, it becomes an automatic reaction
to perform a controlled stop. As for running the tires at 45psi. Stopping has never been an issue at that pressure for any of the tires brands. Bridgestone, Perelli or Shinko.  Again, thanks for your concern.

Anyone who says he or she avoids panic stops simply hasn't encountered the need. Even when disciplined to ride defensively in an effort to avoid a situation that would be a panic stop for many, still will eventually run into a situation where you will need to stop quickly, and in a manner a tire pumped past the maximum PSI won't handle. Traction is like a dollar bill, you only have so much. Some is used for acceleration, cornering or braking. Unfortunately when you exceed the max PSI you no longer have a dollar bill, you have maybe 75 cents at best.

I worked with cops for years, and even was involved with a dealership who did the service for police bikes. I rode their bike regularly and rode with them often. I live near where Larry Grodsky did and he was an acquaintance through some of the local cops here, he wouldn't, and they wouldn't advocate what you are doing. By the way, Larry was an exceptional rider, he wrote safety articles for Rider magazine. He was one of the best, and he died in a motorcycle accident. Don't think you can out ride the odds as well.

[sf bay rider]

C1xRider, I acknowledge what your saying, regarding a set of tires on the shelf. I prefer to keep a set as back up. If the tires go over three years of age. Then I, simply sell them and replace them. A practice that I, have had for several years. It has not failed me yet.   

PH14, I'm running my tire pressure @ 42psi cold, now. Which I, acknowledged a few entries back. As for riding and it's inherent dangers. You can't foresee, prepare for or guard against. Every conceivable scenario or situation whilst atop your mount. In turn I, acknowledge what your saying regarding stopping and respect that fact. Alas, you don't know my level of training or experience as a rider. To state what I, will or will not do in a given situation. I have made several mistakes as a rider and have learned from all of them, some painfully so.  Cumulatively I, feel I'm a safe rider, but by no means an expert rider. I do consider myself a humble student here at all times. Because, there are so many learned people here in this forum. For that I am very thankful indeed. Including yourself.

One lesson I, learned from a training officer. That I will share with all here. "Ride like your paranoid and chances are you will live to ride another day" That single lesson has served me well. As I, hope it will serve you, too.

[C1xRider]

C1xRider, I acknowledge what your saying, regarding a set of tires on the shelf. I prefer to keep a set as back up. If the tires go over three years of age. Then I, simply sell them and replace them. A practice that I, have had for several years. It has not failed me yet. 

I understand keeping a backup set of tires, I do that myself.  However, my back up set are used ones, with enough life left in them that they will get me by until new ones arrive in the mail.  I have a Angel for the front, and a rear stock stone.  Both have enough tread to get me by, if I somehow manage to destroy a tire, and can't get a new one right away.  Since suppliers ship within a couple of days, I just don't see any good reason to sit on new tires for years.  However, to each their own.

Personally, selling several year old new tires, or even putting 3 or 4 year old tires on my bike, is not for me.  Besides that, you probably can't get back what you paid for the new ones 3 or 4 years later, while a used one with a little tread left on it, is already paid for.

[PH14]

C1xRider, I acknowledge what your saying, regarding a set of tires on the shelf. I prefer to keep a set as back up. If the tires go over three years of age. Then I, simply sell them and replace them. A practice that I, have had for several years. It has not failed me yet.   

PH14, I'm running my tire pressure @ 42psi cold, now. Which I, acknowledged a few entries back. As for riding and it's inherent dangers. You can't foresee, prepare for or guard against. Every conceivable scenario or situation whilst atop your mount. In turn I, acknowledge what your saying regarding stopping and respect that fact. Alas, you don't know my level of training or experience as a rider. To state what I, will or will not do in a given situation. I have made several mistakes as a rider and have learned from all of them, some painfully so.  Cumulatively I, feel I'm a safe rider, but by no means an expert rider. I do consider myself a humble student here at all times. Because, there are so many learned people here in this forum. For that I am very thankful indeed. Including yourself.

One lesson I, learned from a training officer. That I will share with all here. "Ride like your paranoid and chances are you will live to ride another day" That single lesson has served me well. As I, hope it will serve you, too.

I ride the same way, so did Larry. Of course he, along with other "safe" riders I have known, police officers and racers such as Scott Russell have said, as soon as you think you are a safe rider and you are no longer afraid of the bike, you should sell it. Remain afraid, and understand that you cannot predict everything. I'm glad you have reduced the pressure.

[B.D.F.]

And this from a guy who's ancestors probably rode in Conestoga wagons all the way from the east coast to.... Virginia! Say, they really must ride rough....

Brian

I don't know about unsafe but it must ride like a Conestoga wagon...

[VirginiaJim]

And this from a guy who's ancestors probably rode in Conestoga wagons all the way from the east coast to.... Virginia! Say, they really must ride rough....

Brian

My ancestors came over on the SS United States and sailing vessels from England, Brian.  No Conestoga wagons for us..