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Offline Dan Forker

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KISSPAS (KIPASS)
« on: April 06, 2013, 06:07:38 PM »


New C14 and my first KISSPAS moment. Fob is on the table next to the bike. Start the bike and head to town. Get about 1/2 mile and screen starts blinking "No Transponder". I'm thinking what the h... the transponder has failed, whatever that is. Stop the bike and try to restart. Nothing, bike is all locked up. Then it hits me that the "transponder" is the key fob and I remember where it is. Take a 1/2 mile hike each way and back is business. Can't believe I did that. Never again.

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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2013, 06:33:42 PM »
Welcome to the forum. Hopefully it was a nice day for a walk :).
If you think it may be a problem, check out the kipass bipass by BDF sticky under accessories.

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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2013, 09:47:32 PM »
Get about 1/2 mile and screen starts blinking "No Transponder". I'm thinking what the h... the transponder has failed, whatever that is. Stop the bike and try to restart. Nothing, bike is all locked up.

Welcome!!!

Yep, that message is warning you "DO NOT TURN OFF THE BIKE, THE TRANSPONDER IS OUT OF RANGE"  (Wouldn't that be a better message).  You did the exact wrong thing :)

Your next mistake will be to lock your jacket containing the transponder in the left bag and then later realize IT IS STILL IN RANGE, so ANYONE could have walked up to your bike, pressed the knob in, turned it, then started the bike :)

Today I got my first "TRANSPONDER BATTERY LOW" and it took me several seconds to associate "transponder" with "active RFID key fob" :)   I HATE the annoying red light, so I got a battery for it immediately (it is a less common CR2025 instead of the VERY common CR2032, figures).  I guess I am set for another two years or so.
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 05:56:13 AM »
Welcome!!!

Yep, that message is warning you "DO NOT TURN OFF THE BIKE, THE TRANSPONDER IS OUT OF RANGE"  (Wouldn't that be a better message).  You did the exact wrong thing :)

Your next mistake will be to lock your jacket containing the transponder in the left bag and then later realize IT IS STILL IN RANGE, so ANYONE could have walked up to your bike, pressed the knob in, turned it, then started the bike :)

Today I got my first "TRANSPONDER BATTERY LOW" and it took me several seconds to associate "transponder" with "active RFID key fob" :)   I HATE the annoying red light, so I got a battery for it immediately (it is a less common CR2025 instead of the VERY common CR2032, figures).  I guess I am set for another two years or so.

I also got the "TRANSPONDER BATTERY LOW" warning yesterday, not my first though. I grabbed my other fob just to see if the message would go away, it did. Time to change the batteries.
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2013, 05:57:01 AM »
Welcome to the forum. Hopefully it was a nice day for a walk :).
If you think it may be a problem, check out the kipass bipass by BDF sticky under accessories.

BDF's bypass won't do a thing in this situation.
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2013, 06:53:19 AM »
So is 'KISSPAS' a dyslectic error or what?  Please change the subject line to 'KIPASS'.  Makes the search function work better.  Thanks.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2013, 07:29:15 AM »
So is 'KISSPAS' a dyslectic error or what?  Please change the subject line to 'KIPASS'.  Makes the search function work better.  Thanks.

LOL- I never even noticed it until you just posted that :)  "KISSPAS" is quite a subject.
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2013, 11:18:26 AM »
Ever wondered what happens when the battery in your transponder goes bad? I have a '11 and was wondering that on a trip to Victoria.
I just got gas and ahead of me was a ride of 2 hours to a BFD before hitting Oregon.
The display lit up with the warning "Low transponder battery" and flashed a pic of a battery. Yup, scared me. And, I didn't have that little emergency key fob either. I drove to a nearby drugstore, turned bike off with the fear that if the drugstore didn't have the battery, I would be stranded.
The battery was a 2025 I think, I put the spare one in my tool kit.

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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2013, 12:07:45 PM »
I also got the "TRANSPONDER BATTERY LOW" warning yesterday, not my first though. I grabbed my other fob just to see if the message would go away, it did. Time to change the batteries.

THAT's hilarious...... 8)  took the bike out for a spin in the beautiful wether here in Ohio yesterday, started her up....got the low bat warning also....., placed that fob 10 ft away, and started the bike with the spare in my pocket...no problemo.... took off to pick some stuff up, and with both fobs in pocket at my first stop on restart, got the signal again...heheheheh, rode across the street to CVS and bought 2 new 2025's and installed them, all good.
this is only the second set of bat's I bought since new in 2007, not bad. I don't believe in meeping spares. whenthey go i can still start the bike using the passive RFID feature on either of my 07 fobs. I prefer to buy fresh bats whenever.

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« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2013, 02:15:13 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2013, 02:33:08 PM »
The display lit up with the warning "Low transponder battery" and flashed a pic of a battery. Yup, scared me. And, I didn't have that little emergency key fob either. I drove to a nearby drugstore, turned bike off with the fear that if the drugstore didn't have the battery, I would be stranded.

Of course, you now know it doesn't matter if the battery goes dead, because the active fob can be used as a passive fob, also.  (Hadn't you read the Engrish C14 operator's manual?)
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2013, 02:34:50 PM »
Ever wondered what happens when the battery in your transponder goes bad? I have a '11 and was wondering that on a trip to Victoria.
I just got gas and ahead of me was a ride of 2 hours to a BFD before hitting Oregon.
The display lit up with the warning "Low transponder battery" and flashed a pic of a battery. Yup, scared me. And, I didn't have that little emergency key fob either. I drove to a nearby drugstore, turned bike off with the fear that if the drugstore didn't have the battery, I would be stranded.
The battery was a 2025 I think, I put the spare one in my tool kit.

You can't be stranded by a dead FOB battery.  It's also a Passive FOB.  Check the owners manual for instructions for using it when the battery is dead, and next time you'll be better prepared.
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2013, 02:37:07 PM »
Of course, you now know it doesn't matter if the battery goes dead, because the active fob can be used as a passive fob, also.  (Hadn't you read the Engrish C14 operator's manual?)

Hah!  You beat me to it, by seconds.   ;D
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2013, 04:08:16 PM »
Let's see.... 'scared me', 'emergency', 'fear' and 'stranded'; yep, a pretty standard post about KiPass....

Dat dare KiPass thing is pure evil I tells ya'.

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Ever wondered what happens when the battery in your transponder goes bad? I have a '11 and was wondering that on a trip to Victoria.
I just got gas and ahead of me was a ride of 2 hours to a BFD before hitting Oregon.
The display lit up with the warning "Low transponder battery" and flashed a pic of a battery. Yup, scared me. And, I didn't have that little emergency key fob either. I drove to a nearby drugstore, turned bike off with the fear that if the drugstore didn't have the battery, I would be stranded.
The battery was a 2025 I think, I put the spare one in my tool kit.
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2013, 04:12:37 PM »
Not true- KiPass has been known to strike people incapable of movement with its terrible power. Saying you cannot be stranded by a dead fob battery is like saying you cannot be locked inside a car. Hey, wait a minute....

Coming up on six years now and KiPass is still as mystical and diabolical as the process of sacrificing a virgin so that the [corn, wheat, any grain] will grow. Why if I wasn’t so terrified of the magic in dem lectrikal wires, I would be powerful terrified of KiPass.

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You can't be stranded by a dead FOB battery.  It's also a Passive FOB.  Check the owners manual for instructions for using it when the battery is dead, and next time you'll be better prepared.
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« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2013, 05:07:13 PM »
Scardey Britches!
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2013, 05:08:19 PM »
I couldn't take it anymore... :doh:
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2013, 04:33:07 AM »
I couldn't take it anymore... :doh:

It was taunting you weren't it Jim?
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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2013, 04:35:51 AM »
THAT's hilarious...... 8)  took the bike out for a spin in the beautiful wether here in Ohio yesterday, started her up....got the low bat warning also....., placed that fob 10 ft away, and started the bike with the spare in my pocket...no problemo.... took off to pick some stuff up, and with both fobs in pocket at my first stop on restart, got the signal again...heheheheh, rode across the street to CVS and bought 2 new 2025's and installed them, all good.
this is only the second set of bat's I bought since new in 2007, not bad. I don't believe in meeping spares. whenthey go i can still start the bike using the passive RFID feature on either of my 07 fobs. I prefer to buy fresh bats whenever.

That's funny. The last time that I got the low fob battery warning I did the same thing. Swapped to the other fob but within a few days I was getting the low bat warning on that fob too. I'm sure that I'll end up changing them both out at the same time again this time around.
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Re: KISSPAS
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2013, 07:55:05 AM »
And, I didn't have that little emergency key fob either.

Yes you did. The large fob works both ways.