Author Topic: top speed (Read 82892 times)

elp_jc · « **Reply #80 on:** December 19, 2014, 10:50:49 PM »

Quote from: Conrad on December 19, 2014, 01:17:04 PM

As for the clutchless shifts. Preload the shifter a tad, close the throttle a bit, and shift.

Great tip; much appreciated

. So can you delimit the Gen-2 Connies without tampering with the ECU? I wouldn't do that at least under warranty. it'd be nice to see what she can do, but it's not going to be much more than 154 anyway, especially at my 4K' of altitude. Although without side cases, my light weight, and the less restrictive sport screen, she could reach 165 indicated. Oh, and the black color must help too

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gPink · « **Reply #81 on:** December 20, 2014, 04:46:14 AM »

Quote from: elp_jc on December 19, 2014, 10:50:49 PM

Great tip; much appreciated . So can you delimit the Gen-2 Connies without tampering with the ECU? I wouldn't do that at least under warranty. it'd be nice to see what she can do, but it's not going to be much more than 154 anyway, especially at my 4K' of altitude. Although without side cases, my light weight, and the less restrictive sport screen, she could reach 165 indicated. Oh, and the black color must help too .

You have to reflash the ecu to remove the limiter. The main reason for 'tampering' is to open the secondary throttle plates sooner which will increase low end power. Warranty won't be endangered unless it can be proven that modifications caused a problem. I have never heard of this happening. And if it's black and a Gen 2 you'll need all the help you can get.

Conrad · « **Reply #82 on:** December 20, 2014, 06:47:15 AM »

Quote from: gPink on December 20, 2014, 04:46:14 AM

You have to reflash the ecu to remove the limiter. The main reason for 'tampering' is to open the secondary throttle plates sooner which will increase low end power. Warranty won't be endangered unless it can be proven that modifications caused a problem. I have never heard of this happening. And if it's black and a Gen 2 you'll need all the help you can get.

Yep, what Gary said. No way to remove the speed limiter without a ECU reflash. I guess you had better look into this since you have the slower generation and a black bike to boot! Silverdammit superiority has already been established.

Concours144545 · « **Reply #83 on:** April 26, 2015, 06:20:00 PM »

Anyone know what the top speed would be with a Guhls flash with top speed limiter removed and a CS1 slip on?

twowheeladdict · « **Reply #84 on:** April 26, 2015, 07:01:16 PM »

My stock 1400 will go faster than i will ever take it, but I don't do track days. What track are you going to run at?

maxtog · « **Reply #85 on:** April 26, 2015, 11:13:53 PM »

Quote from: Concours144545 on April 26, 2015, 06:20:00 PM

Anyone know what the top speed would be with a Guhls flash with top speed limiter removed and a CS1 slip on?

Welcome!

Just a muffler change isn't likely to make much difference (if any). As you can see from [now] previous postings, there are a wide variety of answers, probably depending on many factors such as altitude (above sea level), temperature, windscreen selected, windscreen position, body position, bags on/off, wind direction, helmet type, etc. At very high speeds, aerodynamics will play a huge role.

There might be some small aerodynamic differences between gen1 and gen2 body designs too (fairings are different & mirrors moved)... likely to be minor, though. I haven't seen drag numbers on either so who knows.

Concours144545 · « **Reply #86 on:** April 27, 2015, 12:41:08 AM »

I have more than a muffler change. I had the ECU flashed and speed limiter removed by Guhls. Any ideas on the the top speed? I'm sure it's more than 154? Not that I would go that fast on the street, just looking to see if anyone has done it on a track.

martin_14 · « **Reply #87 on:** April 27, 2015, 03:00:45 AM »

not sure if the track is the place to max out a vehicle, unless it has a loooon straight, like 2 miles. It takes a while to make progress from 160 on, but she'll get to 166 on the gps (172 on the speedo), bags on, Givi windshield. No wobble or complains of any sort, just 11 mpg

It was in a new bit of Autobahn with 3 lanes and many miles straight (and empty that morning). Afterwards, when I went back to 70 (which felt like standing) to let my adrenaline fade, she threw out a ton of heat for a few minutes.
I only did it a couple of times, it really doesn't feel necessary to move at those speeds where you're just going ballistic with no chance whatsoever should something come your path.

maxtog · « **Reply #88 on:** April 27, 2015, 05:38:50 AM »

Quote from: Concours144545 on April 27, 2015, 12:41:08 AM

I have more than a muffler change. I had the ECU flashed and speed limiter removed by Guhls.

Like the muffler, the reflash is also not likely to make any difference in top speed ability except that it removes the top speed limiter. Generally, the speeds you see posted in the thread should apply.

tomp · « **Reply #89 on:** April 27, 2015, 08:08:39 AM »

Took my Gen I to 135 indicated once, just to mess with an RT rider. I realize what Martin said about no chance at such speeds is true, so the only time, well almost, that I take it to 100 plus now, is when passing on the highway. Damn thing does accelerate from 60 to 100+ MPH really fast in 6th, and even quicker, dropped down a gear. Makes passing much quicker and safer than on my RT and especially the Dyna.

Top speed numbers are normally used for two purposes, bragging rights among other riders, and impressing non riders; "Hey, my touring bike will go over 160.", all the while patting oneself on the back. We've all done it, and it is fun to see the expressions of info recipients.

just gone · « **Reply #90 on:** April 27, 2015, 10:04:46 AM »

Just for the information, (with all the numbers) aren't the limiters (pre reflash) set as follows?

Gen I C14 300 kph = 186.4114 mph

Gen II C14 250 kph = 155.3428 mph

I had the reflash done by Guhl but I requested that the limit be unchanged. If I ever went that fast there was
obviously a problem (mental) and I'd need all the help I could get, and if someone stole my bike I wouldn't want them
going over 70 let alone over 155.3428 mph.

Concours144545 · « **Reply #91 on:** April 27, 2015, 10:52:42 AM »

More a less bragging rights. I personally think that the Guhls flash really woke the bike up. I bet 170 isn't out the question with a 165 lbs rider no bags, windscreen down.

maxtog · « **Reply #92 on:** April 27, 2015, 03:28:43 PM »

Quote from: Concours144545 on April 27, 2015, 10:52:42 AM

More a less bragging rights. I personally think that the Guhls flash really woke the bike up. I bet 170 isn't out the question with a 165 lbs rider no bags, windscreen down.

You may test that hypothesis for us

Just make sure to use GPS to get your speed!

gPink · « **Reply #93 on:** April 27, 2015, 04:17:37 PM »

Quote from: maxtog on April 27, 2015, 03:28:43 PM

You may test that hypothesis for us Just make sure to use GPS to get your speed!

We'll want cellphone pics of the speedo too.

tomp · « **Reply #94 on:** April 27, 2015, 07:09:53 PM »

Quote from: gPink on April 27, 2015, 04:17:37 PM

We'll want cellphone pics of the speedo too.

You expect a rider doing 170 to take out his cell phone and focus on the speedo? OOOOOOKAAAAAAYYYYY. . .

Deziner · « **Reply #95 on:** April 27, 2015, 07:31:35 PM »

I'd accept a GoPro video in lieu of a cell phone pic. With commentary, of course.

gPink · « **Reply #96 on:** April 27, 2015, 07:38:55 PM »

Quote from: tomp on April 27, 2015, 07:09:53 PM

You expect a rider doing 170 to take out his cell phone and focus on the speedo? OOOOOOKAAAAAAYYYYY. . .

LOL.... that's exactly what I'd expect of someone who would do 170 on a public highway.

tomp · « **Reply #97 on:** April 27, 2015, 07:53:29 PM »

Quote from: gPink on April 27, 2015, 07:38:55 PM

LOL.... that's exactly what I'd expect of someone who would do 170 on a public highway.

How about a gopro video of the gps or speedo? Lots of those on youtube.
This rider gets to around 270 KPH in 5th which is 168 MPH indicated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qgfaU8UT2M

Jrodizzle07 · « **Reply #98 on:** April 27, 2015, 08:10:25 PM »

He needs to learn to shift before the rev limiter lol...

tomp · « **Reply #99 on:** April 27, 2015, 08:21:24 PM »

Quote from: Jrodizzle07 on April 27, 2015, 08:10:25 PM

He needs to learn to shift before the rev limiter lol...

Saw him pass red line, but never heard a rev limiter kick in and kill the engine, just smooth up shifts.. Unless I'm missing something. tp

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Author Topic: top speed (Read 82892 times)

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