Lost my primary FOB, dammit

[maxtog]

There are two different key codes, an "A" and a "B".

Yep

Make certain you know which one to order when you have the dealer get one. The letter is on the side of the stove knob key.  The attached image shows the difference. 

Strange image.  You can have blank/B or A/C?   Looks like my key is a blank/B based on the image!  My Fob key number also starts with a "B"

[maxtog]

Doubles the chances of you getting a unique key (or at least one that nobody else local has..In High school, my KH400 key would start 3 of the 8 Kawasakis at school.)

Hmm.  It appears to be 5 pins with at least 5 lengths on each pin.  My statistics are a bit rusty, but I think that is 5^5 = 3125 combinations?  My key lacks some diversity, so it might be more than 5 lengths, which would quickly grow how many combinations (different/unique keys) are possible.  5 lengths is not typical, but 8 to 10 is (which would be 32768 and 100000 respectively, although there are limits to adjacent lengths that can be cut, so it might be considerably lower).

[freebird6]

I'm near Indianapolis and have a KDS system.  Will be glad to program a new FOB to your bike.  PM me if interested.

I am still in awe and thankful for  your abilities. Too bad he did not have time to come over and get it done. Maybe he will find time once he gets the passive one might save a few bucks.  You re the best......and the guru of KIPASS tech    NOT to jinx myself but I still have one active and one passive that came with the new bike and the active (now Passive) and Passive from the old bike. You can never have enough fobs programmed.

As for the keys....did the OP have extra keys cut? I am still getting my spares at Slaters Hardware in Lancaster Oh....they always seem to have the correct blanks and know which one to use as soon as I lay mine on the counter.

[PlaynInPeoria]

I ordered an active fob key and a passive fob key, waiting on them.

[amphibsailor]

Don't  forget the fob key.

[Ron Dawg]

Inspired by this thread, I went by my local Outdoor dealer/hardware store which has a big Ilco stock and got two cut for $5.30 total including the blanks.

I first went by the local Kawa dealer whose parts counter kid (he looked about 17) honestly said, ''What kind of bike is that?"

Then he said, "We don't have those, but we can order them. They're $22/ea and we have a HAND cutter <WTH?>"...

To his credit, thenhe quietly said, "Go to Howard Brothers, they have a lot of Illco stuff. They might have that..." <Much appreciated, btw.>

$44 vs $5? Really? It's a KEY blank... I was prepared to pay $10 just to be supportive, but not $44.

[amphibsailor]

It is nice to have the one that fits in your fob, though.

[maxtog]

I first went by the local Kawa dealer whose parts counter kid (he looked about 17) honestly said, ''What kind of bike is that?"

Yep, typical.  The C14 is not a huge seller (mostly because it is expensive) and it seems many dealers know almost nothing about their own flagship.

Then he said, "We don't have those, but we can order them. They're $22/ea and we have a HAND cutter <WTH?>"...

Wow

$44 vs $5? Really? It's a KEY blank... I was prepared to pay $10 just to be supportive, but not $44.

Can't blame you.  I had a local locksmith shop cut me a generic key for about $5 too.   Cheap and works.

It is nice to have the one that fits in your fob, though.

True that.... but the moral of the story is "don't lose your FOB(s)!"  "Keep the active one in your zippered jacket pocket and the other safely at home".  Need a key for the bags?  Get that $5 generic key and put it on your house key ring and use that and leave that fob alone! 

[O.C.]

True that.... but the moral of the story is "don't lose your FOB(s)!"  "Keep the active one in your zippered jacket pocket and the other safely at home".  Need a key for the bags?  Get that $5 generic key and put it on your house key ring and use that and leave that fob alone! 
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I speak from experience     

[amphibsailor]

...True that.... but the moral of the story is "don't lose your FOB(s)!"  "Keep the active one in your zippered jacket pocket and the other safely at home".  Need a key for the bags?  Get that $5 generic key and put it on your house key ring and use that and leave that fob alone!  ......

Pretty useless advice to give someone after the fact..... (..don't  lose your FOB (s)....).  The other part is good advice.  I personally have never lost my FOB. 

[zarticus]

It is nice to have the one that fits in your fob, though.

I got a spare passive "small" fob with no key. Here is what I did. I got my locksmith to make me a key for $2.50 , I then took my key out of my Fob & put it on top of the new key. Traced the Fob key onto the new key with a marker then using my Dremel I cut the head of the new key to match, A little rounding of the corners on a grinder & I now have a key that fit's just as good as the factory one. I'm sure It can be done for the full sized Fob, It just will not have the plastic on the head of the key like the factory one 

[PlaynInPeoria]

I already ordered a plastic key for the active fob and another for the passive.  I'm a tightwad too but the total including shipping was only $33, that's not a lot.

[maxtog]

Traced the Fob key onto the new key with a marker then using my Dremel I cut the head of the new key to match

Color me impressed

[PlaynInPeoria]

So I finally recovered from all that, it was very expensive.

$268 - Fob
$45  - Dealer programming
$33 - 2 new key blanks (I should have ordered these when I ordered the fob, would have saved on S&H)
$10 - get the 2 new blanks (active and passive) cut at a key store
==============================================
$356

I would say that overall it was worth it for the learning experience.

Who am I kidding, it sucked really bad.  Might be my most expensive mistake ever?

[B.D.F.]

Well, I am guessing you do not have any children if this may be your most expensive mistake ever.....

ROFLMAO

But really, I have made much, much bigger mistakes that that. Hey, stuff happens and sometimes fixing it is costly. Sometimes it cannot be fixed completely and sometimes it cannot be fixed at all. Not to treat your expense cavalierly but really, on a scale of all things, this is not all that bad.

Brian

So I finally recovered from all that, it was very expensive.

$268 - Fob
$45  - Dealer programming
$33 - 2 new key blanks (I should have ordered these when I ordered the fob, would have saved on S&H)
$10 - get the 2 new blanks (active and passive) cut at a key store
==============================================
$356

I would say that overall it was worth it for the learning experience.

Who am I kidding, it sucked really bad.  Might be my most expensive mistake ever?