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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: bigfraid on July 08, 2015, 10:47:37 AM
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I'm looking at Denali and steel air horns and want to see what everyone has chosen and where you mounted.it looks like the steel is louder and smaller and price is pretty close on both,so what should I get.
Thanks
Bob
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I got the Wolo Bad Boy, and mounted it under the right side panel, opposite the glove box. I have had these horns on my last 5 bikes, and like them very much. Significantly louder than many car horns. It does require a relay, however. No big deal at all, if you have done much automotive wiring. Around $40 bucks from Harbor Freight.
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I got the Wolo Bad Boy, (same as Stebel?), and mounted it under the right side panel, opposite the glove box. I have had these horns on my last 5 bikes, and like them very much. Significantly louder than many car horns. It does require a relay, however. No big deal at all, if you have done much automotive wiring. Around $40 bucks from Harbor Freight.
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I'm looking at Denali and steel air horns and want to see what everyone has chosen and where you mounted.it looks like the steel is louder and smaller and price is pretty close on both,so what should I get.
You will find lots of useful threads on this with a search.
Mine is a Nautilus airhorn, mounted on the right side under the fairing.
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Screamin' Banshee for me, allows the use of the stock horn, modulates the lights while the air horn is going off..
Quite the racket!
http://screaming-banshee.com/ (http://screaming-banshee.com/)
There was a huge group buy a while back, complete unit, with horn, relay and modulator in one unit. Mounts clean
on the right side on the 14.
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I got H80/2 Stebel horns from Murphs' along with his wiring harness with the relay. I am very happy with them. Here is a thread I started when I installed them.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8845.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8845.0)
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I have used the "Sport Horn" found at most BMW motorcycle shops on 5 bikes. It has twin sounds, 115 db, low amperage not requiring a relay, and mounts by replacing stock horn. A horn has never prevented an accident. Avoidance and correct positioning with motorcycling killing autos does. The horn gets their attention after the avoidance. Don't over buy or over rely on it. 55 years of motorcycling experience with zero accidents. Be defensive-not offensive. $35
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But being offensive can be so much fun... :banana...and welcome to the forum.
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Well Bob, I use Stebel air horns 'cause they are loud, seem to work well and are available all over the place.
Where to mount it? I would suggest mounting it to your motorcycle. I have tried mounting them to my desk, the toilet (with lid pressure actuated switch), my bedroom light-switch and my motorcycles and the only ones I have been able to keep have been the ones on the motorcycles; too many objections to the other locations, along with a few significant ..... oh, let's call the "biological events", from the one on the toilet to allow them to remain.
Hey, someone had to make that smarta$$ comment and it looks like everyone leaves that up to me, all the time!
;D ;D ;D
I mounted mine under the top / right black fairing cover. It fits well, wires in nicely and most of the sound does get out from in there. The only problem with that location is that some people use the same spot for a Rostra cruise control actuator and there is not enough room for both so if you have or plan on getting a Rostra and mounting it there, there will be a conflict.
Brian
I'm looking at Denali and steel air horns and want to see what everyone has chosen and where you mounted.it looks like the steel is louder and smaller and price is pretty close on both,so what should I get.
Thanks
Bob
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What about this one. Looks like it mount in factory location with a little bit of fabrication for a bracket.thanks for that post brian got a laugh out of that,I don't want to mount anything under the right side right now and no CC,if the fiamm would work I'll most likely get it only a few bucks.im planning on getting some clearwater led lights so I figured if I can't be heard then maybe I can be seen.thanks for everyone's input and replys.
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^^^^ I have the FIAMM 72102 (Hight Tone) & the 72112 (Low Tone) on my C14. I was able to mount them where the stock horn mounts. You've just got to make sure that you have them mounted so that they clear the front fender when the front suspension is fully compressed and/or turned to the left/right. I was able to do that but fabricating a (lack of better word) flat T bracket with three holes (one hole for each horn and one hole to mount to the original horn mounting location).
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I installed the HF80/2 (dual) horn in stock location
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I installed the HF80/2 (dual) horn in stock location
I did the same. I love the result.
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^^^^ I have the FIAMM 72102 (Hight Tone) & the 72112 (Low Tone) on my C14. I was able to mount them where the stock horn mounts. You've just got to make sure that you have them mounted so that they clear the front fender when the front suspension is fully compressed and/or turned to the left/right.
+1 But used the FIAMM 74100 El Grande Twin Horns (Note: Requires a relay.)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/81ki3sa-OAL._SY355_.jpg)
Mounted in the same location but used two "Universal Brackets" (included with the horns) to connect to the stock mount.
Angled them at about 45 degrees laterally to clear the the top of the front fender.
Used a stainless steel bolt, nut & lock washer to connect the brackets to the OEM mount.
Been on there for 3 years without a problem.
Loud as hell...sounds like s sports car horn.
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I wanna get and mount Hella Sharptones. Anyone done that/have a pic? Thanks!
Mike
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Thank you for welcoming me. My experience, for what experience is worth, tells me that my previous louder horns did not make me safe--just louder. Perhaps to signal the motorcycle next to me or something. Most accidents are car vs. motorcycle, and visibility has been shown to be the issue and loud horns are ineffective in preventing cars turning left in front of you (50% of accidents). If you reach for the horn button, you are wasting time avoiding the accident. Just stay away from cars. If you wish to be seen by pedestrians, by all means, get a blaster and get attention (fun). But they have been proven to not prevent car vs. motorcycle accidents. Many dual horns if not used with a relay, will ultimately blow the fuse. Make sure the horn has low amperage draw. I love the Fiamms and they sound they make--just a preference. The sport horn without a relay and 10 minutes can be installed and my bike goes from an anemic beep to a adequate dual 115 db. sounder without a relay. Just one simple, cheap option that is more than adequate. Louder than twin BMW horns.
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I have the Denali mini air horn. I did have it mounted under the right top fairing as previously mentioned in this thread but I found it somewhat muffled. I ran into a rider from the COG forum and he had the great idea of splitting the horn. You can take the Denali horn apart into two pieces. The compressor and the horn. I kept the compressor under the top right fairing and with some hose and fittings from Home Depot connected it to the horn which I mounted exactly where the stock horn goes. I've had it like this for the better part of a year without issue and it is loud.
I completely agree that a horn is not going to save you from the car making a left in front of you but living on Long Island and making occasional trips into NYC on the bike I can tell you that it does get people's attention when they drift into your lane.
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Hi
I fitted a Screaming Banshee unit, compressor under the right fairing and the horn inside the front right fairing just under the indicator light, with the outlet showing through a hole I cut so its facing down at the back of the front wheel.
It came with the control unit so the original horn works for the first 0.25 second, handy for a friendly peep peep, then the air horn kicks in which sounds like a lorry horn!
Few pics
Richard
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There may be no published studies that prove louder horns save lives, but just last spring woman with a car full of children started to move quickly and directly in my lane. Visibility wasn't the issue, attention was. I maneuvered right and barely missed being hit. If I hadn't had a horn she could hear (and that I used immediately) she would have pushed me right into the retaining wall before I could get slowed down enough to allow her in the lane.
Thank you for welcoming me. My experience, for what experience is worth, tells me that my previous louder horns did not make me safe--just louder. Perhaps to signal the motorcycle next to me or something. Most accidents are car vs. motorcycle, and visibility has been shown to be the issue and loud horns are ineffective in preventing cars turning left in front of you (50% of accidents). If you reach for the horn button, you are wasting time avoiding the accident. Just stay away from cars. If you wish to be seen by pedestrians, by all means, get a blaster and get attention (fun). But they have been proven to not prevent car vs. motorcycle accidents. Many dual horns if not used with a relay, will ultimately blow the fuse. Make sure the horn has low amperage draw. I love the Fiamms and they sound they make--just a preference. The sport horn without a relay and 10 minutes can be installed and my bike goes from an anemic beep to a adequate dual 115 db. sounder without a relay. Just one simple, cheap option that is more than adequate. Louder than twin BMW horns.
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There may be no published studies that prove louder horns save lives, but just last spring woman with a car full of children started to move quickly and directly in my lane. Visibility wasn't the issue, attention was. I maneuvered right and barely missed being hit. If I hadn't had a horn she could hear (and that I used immediately) she would have pushed me right into the retaining wall before I could get slowed down enough to allow her in the lane.
Nothing is 100% fool proof. Nothing is going to save your life all the time. All you can do is increase your odds. A louder horn IMO does just that. I've been in that same spot many times. Someone coming over when I'm directly next to them. A quick blast and all of a sudden they wake up.
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Loud pipes might do the same thing.
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Loud pipes might do the same thing.
Exactly. Can't say they always work but driving in traffic I'll make sure my revs are still high and people know I'm next to them.
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I have the Denali mini air horn. I did have it mounted under the right top fairing as previously mentioned in this thread but I found it somewhat muffled. I ran into a rider from the COG forum and he had the great idea of splitting the horn. You can take the Denali horn apart into two pieces. The compressor and the horn. I kept the compressor under the top right fairing and with some hose and fittings from Home Depot connected it to the horn which I mounted exactly where the stock horn goes. I've had it like this for the better part of a year without issue and it is loud.
I completely agree that a horn is not going to save you from the car making a left in front of you but living on Long Island and making occasional trips into NYC on the bike I can tell you that it does get people's attention when they drift into your lane.
I see that Denali now makes a 2 piece horn that you can buy instead of splitting apart the one piece.
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Hi
I fitted a Screaming Banshee unit, compressor under the right fairing and the horn inside the front right fairing just under the indicator light, with the outlet showing through a hole I cut so its facing down at the back of the front wheel.
It came with the control unit so the original horn works for the first 0.25 second, handy for a friendly peep peep, then the air horn kicks in which sounds like a lorry horn!
Few pics
Richard
nice set up.
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I see that Denali now makes a 2 piece horn that you can buy instead of splitting apart the one piece.
I knew I should have patented it!!!! LOL... Yeah that's exactly what I did. Split it with a little hose and fittings.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/denali-soundbomb-split-dual-tone-air-horn?utm_source=product&kwd=&kpid=1036349&gclid=CMacr_bBhccCFYSQHwodqZkE7A (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/denali-soundbomb-split-dual-tone-air-horn?utm_source=product&kwd=&kpid=1036349&gclid=CMacr_bBhccCFYSQHwodqZkE7A)
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I completely agree that a horn is not going to save you from the car making a left in front of you but living on Long Island and making occasional trips into NYC on the bike I can tell you that it does get people's attention when they drift into your lane.
Exactly. Horns should NEVER be what you reach for first. Be ready to brake and/or move. But you *can* use the horn once you are ready and/or already taking evasive action. I honk at people who start to drift into my lane with my LOUD air horn frequently, and 90% of the time, that is all it takes. But I am already extremely ready to move/avoid.
But more importantly, it allows you to show just how pissed off you AFTER are when someone does something stupid. :)
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Loud pipes might do the same thing.
OMG no. (I know you post this in jest, but some people might not know).
All those do is irritate everyone behind (and everyone in the community), continuously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_%28South_Park%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_%28South_Park%29)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4)
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I knew I should have patented it!!!! LOL... Yeah that's exactly what I did. Split it with a little hose and fittings.
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/denali-soundbomb-split-dual-tone-air-horn?utm_source=product&kwd=&kpid=1036349&gclid=CMacr_bBhccCFYSQHwodqZkE7A (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/denali-soundbomb-split-dual-tone-air-horn?utm_source=product&kwd=&kpid=1036349&gclid=CMacr_bBhccCFYSQHwodqZkE7A)
Waiting for Galfer to come out with the stainless braided line so my split horn (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=3104.msg38715#msg38715) won't have that squishy sound.......(Should have saved this for April 1st right?) ::)
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OMG no. (I know you post this in jest, but some people might not know).
All those do is irritate everyone behind (and everyone in the community), continuously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_%28South_Park%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_%28South_Park%29)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4)
Max there is loud, there is OMG my ears are bleeding from the open pipes loud and the completely silent stock bike. Stock C14 pretty much silent. My neighbor's bored out Sportster 1200 running open pipes... My ears are bleeding. LOL.. Then there's me. C14 with a two brothers slip on. Middle of the road louder than stock. As I said driving in traffic which I tend to do a lot of here on Long Island I want people to be aware that I'm there. I don't want anyone's ears to bleed :) Does it make me bullet proof? Of course now. But it does make me a little more visible.
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I've had time to reflect on loud pipes whilst riding in my Prius this past weekend. Coming up on them, the noise doesn't register until nearly on top of them. As they're passing me, I don't hear them until they're just about at the driver's window. If you have the windows up and the AC on you just can't hear them and to say that noisy pipes save lives is a bunch of :censored: t. All loud pipes do is to antagonize every one around them that's not riding. How come they can get away with a pipe with no muffler and cars can't?
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How come they can get away with a pipe with no muffler and cars can't?
Because the police are too busy obsessing over speed.
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Who said cars can't? Cars most definitely have aftermarket louder exhaust and are rarely harassed for it here in New York.
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Not talking about an aftermarket exhaust system, talking about straight pipes.
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back on topic, anyone mounted a 12v car horn? ;D
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Yes. Prior to using the air horn and I threw one on my son's Versys 650 just as a quick upgrade. Works fine. No relay necessary either for a single horn.
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i installed a euro mocc horn
3 x louder than stock and only about 15 bucks
easy install
http://www.dx.com/p/mocc-motorcycle-electronic-super-sound-speaker-horn-black-12v-229814#.Vd0jTPlViko (http://www.dx.com/p/mocc-motorcycle-electronic-super-sound-speaker-horn-black-12v-229814#.Vd0jTPlViko)
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The C-14 horn is embarrassing!
After glancing over all the posts, I'm undecided about which I'll choose until I read more.
But, I've got to install something on this bike!
Ride safe, Ted