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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Yves on March 04, 2013, 08:58:57 PM
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Tomorrow, i'm buying a 2012 C14. I'm in Canada, The first dealer i went had a 2012 Black for 14995 CAD$ including T&P, the exchange price for my DL1000 wasn't good, then this other dealer went down to 14695 for an Arabian Red 2012 and a better offer for my exchange, but today i was able to sold the DL1000 by my self at even a better rate, and the first dealer called me back and offer me the black C14 for 13995$. I had put a deposit on the second offer, but i now will have to make them match the lowest offer or i will have to cancel them.! Are they really on their knees or may i still have some play? Is the Arabian red (what a name for wine ruby..) harder to sell or is the black really the fastest? I am a bit confused here. I don't want to be the aggressive party here, it's the first dealer that started a war.. And the second one try to play on my feelings.. I know it's my hard earned money at play and i will considerate any advice here!
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Your money, your choice. But I bet there were way more black one's built than that reddish brown color. I think the black would be easier to sell down the road.
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Your money, your choice. But I bet there were way more black one's built than that reddish brown color. I think the black would be easier to sell down the road.
Thanks I did not took that into account but you make a good point!
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FWIW, I'm not partial to either color, but if those were my only two choices I would choose the red, so much easier to keep clean looking. Either way, you will be ending up with a slower then Silverdammit bike ;D
But, if you are buying with the intent of selling down the road, the slow black bike would be my choice ;)
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:goodpost: Go BLACK!! :stirpot:
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:goodpost: Go BLACK!! :stirpot:
:goodpost: 8) :chugbeer:
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You know what they say... Once you go black, you'll never go back. Hmmm. I don't think that was about bikes.
I had the same choice. Didn't like the red. Go black.
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Mine is red. My previous bike was black, and I wanted something different.
I think that the red is somewhat unusual, as depending on the lighting and angle, the color shifts, and I like that.
Black is just boring black :chugbeer:
Jeff
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You should buy the color that you like best
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You don't ride the color. Both bikes are the same. Get the one you can get for the least money. Spend what you saved on Farkles or a road trip.
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Tomorrow, i'm buying a 2012 C14. I'm in Canada, The first dealer i went had a 2012 Black for 14995 CAD$ including T&P, the exchange price for my DL1000 wasn't good, then this other dealer went down to 14695 for an Arabian Red 2012 and a better offer for my exchange, but today i was able to sold the DL1000 by my self at even a better rate, and the first dealer called me back and offer me the black C14 for 13995$. I had put a deposit on the second offer, but i now will have to make them match the lowest offer or i will have to cancel them.! Are they really on their knees or may i still have some play? Is the Arabian red (what a name for wine ruby..) harder to sell or is the black really the fastest? I am a bit confused here. I don't want to be the aggressive party here, it's the first dealer that started a war.. And the second one try to play on my feelings.. I know it's my hard earned money at play and i will considerate any advice here!
Ah, I see where your confusion stems from. Allow me to set you straight. Silverdammit is the fastest color. ;)
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Thanks, for the answers! Funnily i had convinced myself i didn't hate the Red one under the sun., but now that i have the choice, I think i'll go wit the cheapest of both.. the black one. Also that there is no more matching red top case, my cloths are black, my helmet is silver and this dealer is nearest to my place... Unless of course they cut me yet a better deal on the red.. I'll let you guys know. (These dealers guys are drama queens, i'm gonna have fun cancelling the deposit i made on the red, but in this economy, money talks loud.)
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I don't think I've ever bought anything based on colors. I have rejected some. Colors I won't buy anymore are black and white. Black shows everything and I just don't like white. I probably won't buy anything ZG Green or a glow type color. It's just personal preference, that's all. I think if it came to black or white and they were the same price I'd go with the black. The Arabian Red is more of a deep maroon to me and just has no appeal at all so I think if it were me I'd go with the black if it were purely a color choice and not a significant difference in price. I would also be looking at the respective service departments and customer service. I would pay more to a dealer that had a good service department and I liked them rather than doing a bidding war on the bike, but that's me. Good luck on your choice whatever it is.
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I don't think I've ever bought anything based on colors.
Me too. When I bought mine they had a black and a blue. I'm more partial to black but the blue was the ABS model so I went blue. Everything else being equal I would go black over red. Badass motorcycles should be black. 8)
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Sigh....
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FWIW, I'm not partial to either color, but if those were my only two choices I would choose the red, so much easier to keep clean looking. Either way, you will be ending up with a slower then Silverdammit bike ;D
But, if you are buying with the intent of selling down the road, the slow black bike would be my choice ;)
Does this guy seem confused to you too? :loco: :)
Badass motorcycles should be black. 8)
+1
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Most the bikes I see on the road are black... be different... 8)
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Black is beautiful. Take a look a ZG's bike before it goes green.
My last bike:
(http://i897.photobucket.com/albums/ac177/sreinschmidt/valk1_zps0ec79b34.jpg)
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If you don't mind a little extra cleaning/polishing and have no preference over the 2, go with black simply because aftermarket accessories will come in black and match the bike without painting. If you want something that's slightly unique and doesn't look like every other motorcycle, go with red.
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The red one dealer agreed to match the price after some hard, very fast negociation >:(, He even give a very good discount on the farkles i asked for. So I'm a new, proud owner of the Hotest C14, a brand new Arabian Red 2012, with Sliders, the bigest Cee-Baileys, and the Kawa GPS bracket for my Nuvi gps. And i have an undeletable grin already! ;D Pics to come as soon as it get in my drive-way. Thanks guys!
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The red one dealer agreed to match the price after some hard, very fast negociation >:(, He even give a very good discount on the farkles i asked for. So I'm a new, proud owner of the Hotest C14, a brand new Arabian Red 2012, with Sliders, the bigest Cee-Baileys, and the Kawa GPS bracket for my Nuvi gps. And i have an undeletable grin already! ;D Pics to come as soon as it get in my drive-way. Thanks guys!
Congratulation!!! Enjoy!!
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congrats on the new ride.....that smile/grin will never go away!
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Sweet, you will enjoy the bike no matter the color.
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Congrats!
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Thanks guys, you are making me feel welcome!
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Funny--I was in the exact opposite predicatment.
I could have easily saved $1000 if I bought the Arabian Red--but it really didn't do anything for me so I had to have the black.
I actually have a love/hate with black. It looks soooooo good when it is clean, but it is never clean.
I will NEVER own another black car. But in this case, I had no real choice. Too bad there wasn't at third color available... like white.
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Gratz!
Prepare to be awed. 8) 8)
Jeff
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FWIW, I'm not partial to either color, but if those were my only two choices I would choose the red, so much easier to keep clean looking. Either way, you will be ending up with a slower then Silverdammit bike ;D
But, if you are buying with the intent of selling down the road, the slow black bike would be my choice ;)
Geez, when there was only black and silver it was easy -- silverdammit --proven faster in carefully controlled, unbiased testing (honest).
Now you have to decide and hope you only get the second fastest one and not the third....
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I would choose the dark red/burgundy color. It is really quite a nice color, and unusual too. Black is available every year and is pretty boring and impossible to keep clean.
Of course, you will love the Concours regardless of the color...
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Geez, when there was only black and silver it was easy -- silverdammit --proven faster in carefully controlled, unbiased testing (honest).
Ah, but "silverdammit" (("Neutron Silver") was not silver, it was a shiny baby blue. The C-14 was available in silver only one year... and that was 2011, and I have one :)
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Congrats on the new bike love the Arabian red color very unique. Get it out in the sunshine and it looks even better.
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Max, Max, Max, you poor mis-guided rider. Our silver is the one that rules them all, regardless of tint.... ;)
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The red one dealer agreed to match the price after some hard, very fast negociation >:(, He even give a very good discount on the farkles i asked for. So I'm a new, proud owner of the Hotest C14, a brand new Arabian Red 2012, with Sliders, the bigest Cee-Baileys, and the Kawa GPS bracket for my Nuvi gps. And i have an undeletable grin already! ;D Pics to come as soon as it get in my drive-way. Thanks guys!
Congrats and well done! Which sliders?
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Congrats. Great color.
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Congrats. No matter the colour....it's a Concours!
Personally I think the Arabian red is beautiful and classy.
Black is sorta humdrum 'cause ther's so many black bikes out there. Hope nobody takes offence to that comment. I have a black Ford F350 4 door.... so does half the population up here in oil country. Have to make sure I'm getting into the right one in the parking lot. (and they all look dirty)
Have fun. Don't try to get the grin off your face. It's permanent.
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Max, Max, Max, you poor mis-guided rider. Our silver is the one that rules them all, regardless of tint.... ;)
Hey Jim I like the Silver dammit to......would even take black if there were no other color options. ;D ;D LOL.
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Ah, but "silverdammit" (("Neutron Silver") was not silver, it was a shiny baby blue. The C-14 was available in silver only one year... and that was 2011, and I have one :)
Max, Max, Max, you poor mis-guided rider. Our silver is the one that rules them all, regardless of tint.... ;)
Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
Ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul.
Translated, the words mean:
One Silverdammit to rule them all, one Silverdammit to find them,
One Silverdammit to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
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Atomic Silver is my precious...
Oh, and with this freaky nor'easter storm rolling through right now, I hope my precious doesn't get blown over.
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Congrats and well done! Which sliders?
Looks like those:(http://projektd.com/images/products/slide-protection/framework/gtr1400/103_06_pm.jpg)
The dealer keep calling it pok or pock sliders. Do you know them? I never dropped a bike and my sexy red C14 will never drop neither, it,s just for the look! 8)
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Looks like those:(http://projektd.com/images/products/slide-protection/framework/gtr1400/103_06_pm.jpg)
The dealer keep calling it pok or pock sliders. Do you know them? I never dropped a bike and my sexy red C14 will never drop neither, it,s just for the look! 8)
:yikes: He said it out loud!
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:yikes: He said it out loud!
I'm this kind.. Anyway, got sliders now.. :P
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They look like projekd sliders.
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Ah, but "silverdammit" (("Neutron Silver") was not silver, it was a shiny baby blue. The C-14 was available in silver only one year... and that was 2011, and I have one :)
I never knew?!?! I had one of them blue ones. Fortunately I had the sense to take it back and replace it with a real silver one.
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The dealer keep calling it pok or pock sliders. Do you know them? I never dropped a bike and my sexy red C14 will never drop neither, it,s just for the look! 8)
I can't believe you actually said that! You are sure to drop it shortly.... and them there slider things wouldn't do hardly anything to help protect the bike.
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Looks like those:(http://projektd.com/images/products/slide-protection/framework/gtr1400/103_06_pm.jpg)
The dealer keep calling it pok or pock sliders. Do you know them? I never dropped a bike and my sexy red C14 will never drop neither, it,s just for the look! 8)
They look like the sliders from Projekt D. I had them on my bike for awhile. They may help in a very slow lay down. But anything else I think they will fold like a cheap suit. Have since put on the MCE Canyon cages.
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_39_40&products_id=166 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_39_40&products_id=166)
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Looks like those:(http://projektd.com/images/products/slide-protection/framework/gtr1400/103_06_pm.jpg)
They look like the sliders from Projekt D. I had them on my bike for awhile. They may help in a very slow lay down. But anything else I think they will fold like a cheap suit. Have since put on the MCE Canyon cages.
http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_39_40&products_id=166 (http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_39_40&products_id=166)
Well, it does have a Project D logo in the upper right of the pic...
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Well, it does have a Project D logo in the upper right of the pic...
And that my friend would be a dead give away huh? ;D
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And that my friend would be a dead give away huh? ;D
It's a subtle clue no doubt.
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Well, it does have a Project D logo in the upper right of the pic...
DOH! I didn't notice the logo. :-[
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I took the image url from the project d site but the one i purchase seems to be a bit longer and i haven't seen no logo on. I feel dumb having bought these maybe too fast but it seems sturdy and the dealer told that it replace the transversal rod that hold the motor to the frame with a longer one to the sliders. They are not simply attach on each side. It come with the set on the swing arm too. And I felt bad putting a cage on such a sexy beast.
I am not superstitious at all, as a mater of fact, i go against the trend.. At the office i keep asking the desk where the last 6 salesmans didn't make it. My boss keep telling me it's bad luck, i keep telling him, no they were idiots.. ??? I had my share of sh*t already.
I did dropped a bike once, wasn't mine it was the driving school one, which i purposly push to the point of tank slap and low side.. Now i know what not to do.. My previous ride was a DL1000, no ABS, i blocked the rear wheel once, scary sh*t but was able to recover. I certainly trust the C14 2012 with ABS way more.
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Don't feel dumb - they will probably protect from a drop (like if you lose balance on the bike and it tips over, etc).
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congrats on the new bike.. :)
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they will probably protect from a drop (like if you lose balance on the bike and it tips over, etc).
I wouldn't be too sure of that. My estimate is a minimum of $500 damage with a tip over using those. The bag will be all scraped up, and that, alone will be expensive. Will likely hit lower fairing. Possibly break/bend foot controls.
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I wouldn't be too sure of that. My estimate is a minimum of $500 damage with a tip over using those. The bag will be all scraped up, and that, alone will be expensive. Will likely hit lower fairing. Possibly break/bend foot controls.
Before having canyon cages I had these sliders and the small rear bag protectors from MCE. The combination of the 2 I think would protect from zero speed drop such as a foot sliding out or whatever. But I do think any speed what so ever would bend the sliders and break the faring on that side. Luckily I never had to test this theory ;)
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Yeah, I can't imagine it would protect from a hard drop (like it falling off the side stand), but in a gentle drop where you lose the balance and the machine gets too far over for you to keep it upright, they should help the front fairing.
I've been there and done that on my old CBR F2. Scraped the fairing just a bit and put a few nicks in the timing cover, but of course that bike didn't have bags.
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I called my dealer, the sliders are the ones from ProjectD.. Are they any good?
Would the Canyon cage be much better? Can i install both?. Does it come with slider for the swing arm? How much does it cost?
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I called my dealer, the sliders are the ones from ProjectD.. Are they any good?
Would the Canyon cage be much better? Can i install both?. Does it come with slider for the swing arm? How much does it cost?
Would be completely point less to install both. Canyon Cage offers MUCH better protection but many would prefer the less intrusive look with the simple slider. In any case if you want protection for the bags I would recommend adding the MCE small bag protection. Projekt D has a package that includes the engine sliders with the swing arm and front fork sliders. But they can also be bought separately. One last note, if you also want highway pegs, the canyon cage is a great option because you can mount pegs in a lot of different places.
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I called my dealer, the sliders are the ones from ProjectD.. Are they any good?
Would the Canyon cage be much better? Can i install both?. Does it come with slider for the swing arm? How much does it cost?
I read back in this thread and it's not clear to me, are the sliders installed and do you have the bike already?
The Canyon Cages, along with the rear bag bars, are WAY better than sliders, with or without swingarm protectors. The cost for the CCs is $300 plus $175 for the rear bag bars. You do NOT need swingarm protection with the CC and rear bar combo. No way in the world would you want both the sliders and the CCs installed.
See this thread for more info and pics.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8605.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=8605.0)
If you already have the bike with the sliders installed then, well, you're stuck. If you don't have the bike yet and the sliders are not installed. If I were you I'd call your dealer and cancel the sliders and get the CC combo.
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I will get get the bike on the 03/23 only, (it's still cold and full of snow here) the sliders have been ordered but not installed yet. We ordered it on Wednesday. I called today and asked the dealer for Canyon cage, he claim he doesn't know anything about them and don't want to make the effort of getting MC as a new vendor for them. It's getting complicated and i wonder if it really worth it. The cons are the aestheticals and it gets in the way for taking off the farings for maintenance.. Crash bar is a most for adventure bikes, but they are plain ugly on a sport-touring bike. And I am well insured.
Humm.. The saddle bag guards alone might be a god idea don't you think?
Thanks all for your opinions.
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Crash bar is a most for adventure bikes, but they are plain ugly on a sport-touring bike.
Not all tip over options are ugly, look through this link, Top Block is yer answer if you want them to be good looking and functional. 8) :thumbs:
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.100 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=314.100)
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I and everyone who has seen the bike in person has liked the look of the chrome canyon cages on the black bike. There are enough other chrome/silver bits on the bike to make it look good.
(http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb188/twowheeladdict/2012%20Concours/DSCN7423_zpsa65a27c7.jpg)
I like that look and that is all that matters to me. The powdercoated ones look like the cages on my off road bikes.
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I and everyone who has seen the bike in person has liked the look of the chrome canyon cages on the black bike. There are enough other chrome/silver bits on the bike to make it look good.
I like that look and that is all that matters to me. The powdercoated ones look like the cages on my off road bikes.
Chrome canyons on a silver Concours:
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I think you have a great looking bike Max. I saw that color at Cycleworld a couple years ago and wished I had it, very easy to care for.
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ssshhhh, don't tell Max but that's the slower silver model.
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I didn't think I would like the look of chrome CC's but I do! Nice!
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I think you have a great looking bike Max. I saw that color at Cycleworld a couple years ago and wished I had it, very easy to care for.
<blush>
It is pretty easy to keep it looking clean. Still not really sure about the chrome canyons. Some days I like, others I don't. Body colored (silver) might look better.
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ssshhhh, don't tell Max but that's the slower silver model.
:battle:
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ssshhhh, don't tell Max but that's the slower silver model.
Even more so with that HUGE potato launcher hanging off the side. ;)
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Even more so with that HUGE potato launcher hanging off the side. ;)
:battle:
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Even more so with that HUGE potato launcher hanging off the side. ;)
+1... ;D
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+1... ;D
:battle: