Yep, because marketing dollars speak very loudly.
I have a BMW 1600GT as some of you know, and I had a Concours. Further, for about two months I had both bikes and alternated riding the two. The BMW is very torquey as everyone knows. The Concours needed to be downshifted a lot to keep up....as everyone knows. Two very different experiences. I like aspects of both. Love the BMW torque but wish it kept pulling to redline like the Concours does. Frankly, its not worth arguing one over the other.
On the other hand, my new Ducati makes it a mute point, I've got them both covered....
Uh oh....more "marketing dollars" at work. Now the Italians are at it too
That is a ridiculous premis.
... but then want to dismiss the K16's torque advantage?
Having an engine that does have significantly more torque does make an appreciable difference in real world performance
Several posts ago, you finally acknowledge the K16 was the better bike.
.....don't tell me BMW got to you with marketing dollars too Max? I demand a full investigation on the grounds of utter hypocracy.
Actually no it is not. They said it themselves- the C14 wins in 0-60. It wins in 0-100. It wins in 1/4 mile. And yet the article says all that and then says that the K1600GT "still wins because its more prodigious torque"? *THAT*, my friend, is a ridiculous premise.
They could have said "Although the C14 wins in every performance measurement, the K1600 still feels incredibly powerful." Or they could have said "Although the C14 is faster, we still prefer the tourqey feel of the K1600". Both would be reasonable.
Nobody is dismissing its torque advantage. See the above statement in context.
Indeed it does- it allows it to almost keep up with the C14, while being very comfortable at the same time. But it doesn't "perform better", when "perform" is measured by acceleration and track time.
I said if money were no object, the K16 was a better OVERALL bike and had more features. I didn't "it is better" Big difference.
Sigh.
I heard that Kwak is going to remove the linked braking system with the 2014 models. They're also adding cruise...........................and cup holders. They're upping the powerplant to 1550CCs and wait for it..................................................................................................wait for it...
they're going to start building them in Germany.
I heard that Kwak is going to remove the linked braking system with the 2014 models. They're also adding cruise...........................and cup holders. They're upping the powerplant to 1550CCs and wait for it..................................................................................................wait for it...
they're going to start building them in Germany.
Every article I have read gave the C14 it's due credit for best in class
I am not even sure the two are in the same class, with the K16 being 60 to 70% more expensive. The roll seems to be the same, but price has to fit in there somewhere.
Kawasaki Concours 14 MSRP: $16,199
BMW K1600GT MSRP: $21,200
That's a difference of 31%. Still a lot, but no where near the 60-70% you mentioned.
And the Concours is only faster if you wind it out to redline. In normal riding, the K1600 is faster; in other words, in a highway roll-on, the BMW would initially out-accelerate the Kawasaki, and depending on how long the race lasted, the Kawasaki would catch-up and pass, unless the Kawasaki rider dropped to a gear that put the engine >10k RPM.
Kawasaki Concours 14 MSRP: $16,199
BMW K1600GT MSRP: $21,200
That's a difference of 31%. Still a lot, but no where near the 60-70% you mentioned.
And the Concours is only faster if you wind it out to redline.
Let it out Jim. Not good to keep it all inside.