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Offline MichiGlenn

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farkle wiring advice wanted
« on: March 15, 2014, 07:12:16 PM »
I'm new to the C10, having owned older Honda 750's for years.  I'm looking at adding a sound system soon, and eventually additional lighting and possibly a banshee horn. 
I'm wondering the best approach for tapping into power for these.  My instinct and past experience say power the radio from the ignition switch wiring, driving lights from the amber running lights, and running direct from the battery to an air horn, with a relay from the horn switch.  Am I on the right track here?
Also, from the 750 I'm used to running into the limits of the charging system's capacity (turn signal slow if the radio's on etc.). Is this an issue on the Connie?
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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2014, 09:20:02 PM »
I just purchased a farkle box from Eastern Beaver.  It looks to be useful for your application.
http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Wiring_Kits/Fuseboxes/PC-8/pc-8.html

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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2014, 02:43:11 AM »
I do not hook anything up without it running through a relay and/or accessory fuse block.  I fried a wiring harness on a bike many years ago, so I learned my lesson the hard way. 
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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2014, 06:17:12 AM »
I do not hook anything up without it running through a relay and/or accessory fuse block.  I fried a wiring harness on a bike many years ago, so I learned my lesson the hard way.
+1.  Using the ignition switch circuit to trigger a relay for your driving lights and radio is fine. Trying to draw the power you want from that same circuit will (at the very least) result in blown fuses. 

I don't have one of these myself (yet), but it is on the short list of farkles:  (From Murph's, of course!)

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_92&products_id=144
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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2014, 12:23:17 AM »
I used something similar to this to route almost all extra power loads and the stock head light thru:


http://crimpsupply.com/6-position-atc-ato-led-fuse-panel.html?gclid=CMj0v5j0mL0CFYuXOgodSCYAtw

The LEDs will light up if you have a bad fuse. Cool.

It is powered using a relay triggered by the headlight wire, so no power supplied until the bike starts, under normal conditions. Power comes directly from the battery using a 0 amp fuse. I used a 40 amp relay. The 30 amp relay crapped out after a couple of years.
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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2014, 06:46:39 AM »
On all my bikes I use FUZEBLOCK for my electric farkles. 

Made a simple bracket from scrap aluminum that was just strong enough to be bent with channel locks. originally made a brack perfect size, but then opted to go bigger. (cut with dremel "cut-off" tool, drilled 6 holes with drill press)


Here one can see moving the fuse to the right will result in "switched" power, when the key is on it will be juiced, in current state of fuses it is constant power. I put the bolts where the extra part goes to the inside of the FUZEblock rather than hang out the bottom of the mount. I used the short bolts in the set.




Came out fairly nice




Then the first thing I do after is install a USB solution for phone/GPS/MP3 player/text/email/Netflix/etc

Under the friggin knife it goes



Ok, we all know how to wire and soldier so let's skip all that and right to the finished product





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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2014, 01:46:33 PM »
^ Nice there, #9334
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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2014, 04:01:30 PM »
Installed Murph's Fuse Block, never looked back!  Draws power directly off the battery, with a switched lead off of the brake light circuit to activate the fuse block.

http://www.murphskits.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=144

Keep in mind that Connie alternators can come up a bit short with too many farkles/too much amp draw, which is why some have upgraded the alternator (ZZR 1200 I think?).  Finding the more powerful alternator is the trick, of course, as they are all used alternators at this point... At least AFAIK I don't think anyone makes new ones, just rebuilt ones.

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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2014, 07:15:46 PM »
Thanks for the input.  Probably time to make up an order for Murph's.  It's starting to look like spring might not be cancelled this year...just postponed!
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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2014, 07:57:21 PM »
I do not hook anything up without it running through a relay and/or accessory fuse block.  I fried a wiring harness on a bike many years ago, so I learned my lesson the hard way.

Best advise yet, I even beef up the ground side too. Amperage is pulled from both positive and negative wires.
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Offline MichiGlenn

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Re: farkle wiring advice wanted
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2014, 06:15:22 PM »
Got the fuse block from Murph's today!  Looks perfect for a custom fit!  Now to find time...  Thanks TCro for the advice on grounding.  I've been intending to work on those since I saw SISF's free power posts.
2001 Concours
1977 Honda CB750K (sold)
1978 Honda CB750k (long gone)
1972 Honda CL175 (a fond memory)