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Offline ZG

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Muzzys aluminum fan?
« on: January 27, 2012, 05:12:29 PM »
So is anyone out there running one of these or know more specifics about em good or bad? Does it really improve heat management over the stock plastic fan? Any other hidden benifits?? I'm running out of things to do...  :-\
 
http://www.muzzys.com/concours14/ConcoursProducts.html
 
I did a search but didn't see any threads...
 
 

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 05:16:49 PM »
I don't see where it would hurt.  We don't have problems with overheating nor with the blades breaking so I really don't see the point of it.  But that's me.  We had some discussions on this in the past forum.
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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 06:05:51 PM »
Ya, no issues with heat for me either Jim, I live in the PNW so any heat at all is always welcomed.  :)
 
Just seemed odd to me that these are available but yet nobody seems to talk about them that I can recall...  :-\
 
I was hoping somebody had some deep dark secret about how they give you an extra half horse or drops 10 lbs or something...  ???

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 06:14:52 PM »
Nope.
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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 06:53:58 PM »
what makes anybody think Kaw cant design a rad fan?
Im sure their engineers are better than Muzzys if they even have one.

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 06:56:41 PM »
what makes anybody think Kaw cant design a rad fan?
Im sure their engineers are better than Muzzys if they even have one.

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2012, 08:27:36 PM »

 ???
 
I'll take Muzzys full dual system over the Kawi single sided potato launcher any day of the week, so I wouldn't pat Kawi enginerring on the back too hard...  ::)
i believe the factory has a different set of noise and emisions  standards to follow.
I guess muzzys  goal would just be pretty and loud.

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2012, 08:39:41 PM »
i believe the factory has a different set of noise and emisions  standards to follow.
I guess muzzys  goal would just be pretty and loud.

Don't forget the 10% hp gain...  ;)

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2012, 08:48:43 PM »

 ???
 
I'll take Muzzys full dual system over the Kawi single sided potato launcher any day of the week, so I wouldn't pat Kawi enginerring on the back too hard...  ::)

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2012, 09:41:23 PM »
aluminum fans are usually used when changing to aftermarket exhaust headers. that's usually the case for ZX7R bikes (i used to own one).
some aftermarket headers are closer to the fan than stock, the heat can melt the fan blades or significantly weaken it.

for a concours14, depends if you have the same problem after installing your aftermarket exhaust full-system.

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2012, 09:54:27 PM »
aluminum fans are usually used when changing to aftermarket exhaust headers. that's usually the case for ZX7R bikes (i used to own one).
some aftermarket headers are closer to the fan than stock, the heat can melt the fan blades or significantly weaken it.

for a concours14, depends if you have the same problem after installing your aftermarket exhaust full-system.

Isn't the plastic fan mounted on the opposite side of the radiator as the header for the C14 though??  ???

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 10:03:11 PM »

Isn't the plastic fan mounted on the opposite side of the radiator as the header for the C14 though??  ???

not really...
radiator -- fan -- header -- engine.

you won't see the fan if you look at it from behind the forks.
looking at it from the fairing side vent, fan and exhaust headers are maybe a couple of inches apart.

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 10:06:53 PM »
not really...
radiator -- fan -- header -- engine.

you won't see the fan if you look at it from behind the forks.
looking at it from the fairing side vent, fan and exhaust headers are maybe a couple of inches apart.

Ya I can see mine through the side vent. So is the point of the aluminun fan just to keep it from melting due to header heat then??

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« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2012, 10:12:48 PM »
Just make sure ya paint it black, we wouldnt want you gaining any silver induced speed ;D  I think it would be better spent on a Nitros setup and it would be unique to this forum, I would say turbo or car tire but those have already been taken :P  Wait, turbo AND car tire :o

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2012, 11:02:53 PM »
Just make sure ya paint it black, we wouldnt want you gaining any silver induced speed ;D  I think it would be better spent on a Nitros setup and it would be unique to this forum, I would say turbo or car tire but those have already been taken :P  Wait, turbo AND car tire :o

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2012, 08:26:34 AM »
I've run the Muzzy fan on a couple of my GPZ1100's before. I believe that the pitch and number of blades was different than stock and the fan actually pulled more air than the stock plastic fan, at least on that bike. I noticed a difference in how quickly my temp dropped when the fan came on. I was also running full Micron exhaust on these bikes and was a bit concerned about the stock fan being deformed by the heat coming off the headers. That said, I haven't really felt the need to replace the fan on the C14. I suppose if I were to add a full system on the bike, I would go ahead and do so. Cheap insurance.

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 08:42:10 AM »
So is anyone out there running one of these or know more specifics about em good or bad? Does it really improve heat management over the stock plastic fan? Any other hidden benifits?? I'm running out of things to do...  :-\
 
http://www.muzzys.com/concours14/ConcoursProducts.html
 
I did a search but didn't see any threads...

Maybe you can get them and give us a report on any improvements. Maybe they are made for black bikes so they will be as fast as the red ones!!  ::)

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 09:59:45 AM »

Don't forget the 10% hp gain...  ;)

I think that would be questionable.  Perhaps combined with other modifications, but not just swapping a muffler on a C-14.  Of course, I have no data to back it up (but I doubt anyone has data to refute it either).

Anyway- like most others, I really don't see the point of replacing the fan blades.  I don't think I have ever seen a single post about the plastic fan blades melting or breaking, or being nosier than metal.  Don't think I have ever read about the Concours overheating, either.
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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2012, 10:42:29 AM »
Maybe they are made for black bikes so they will be as fast as the red ones!!  ::)

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Re: Muzzys aluminum fan?
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 11:12:11 AM »
ZG........you need an intervention!!!!!! ;)
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