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Offline VirginiaJim

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Re: starting
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2012, 01:44:54 PM »
Do I resemble a Kwak engineer?  Good question, though.
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Re: starting
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2012, 02:04:03 PM »
Quote from: Conrad on January 09, 2012, 01:36:03 PM
So tell me Sparky. Why do our cars/trucks hazard flashers work with the ignition off but the bike has to have the ignition on? So if the bike breaks down on the side of the road you have to leave the ignition on to have the flashers flashing? That's dumb.

I agree that it is dumb, but I think I understand "why".  The mfg's apparently think that vandals/thugs would come up and turn on the flashers of unattended bikes just to run the batteries dead.  It would be easy enough to have a "flasher" setting on the ignition, just as lots of bikes have a Park or Accessory setting.
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Re: starting
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2012, 02:42:37 PM »
I don't think the Vandals ever made it over here, but they played heck in Europe and with the Romans in particular.  Thugs were more in India than here.  Nasty crowd they were.  All in all, glad I'm in North AM.  I guess it does make sense when you think about it, though.  Making it only work with the ignition on.
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Re: starting
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2012, 02:58:53 PM »
No, it doesn't make sense to have the hazards work only with the ignition on. What does make sense is what lt1 said, have a position on the ignition switch that lets you turn the hazards on without the ignition being on.

If your bike is dissabled on the side of the road and you have to leave it, you'd want to be able to turn the flashers on without leaving the ingition on right?
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Re: starting
« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2012, 03:38:19 PM »
Maybe?
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Re: starting
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2012, 03:51:20 PM »
Quote from: ZG on January 09, 2012, 11:11:56 AM

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^^^^^That'll make you go blind.
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Re: starting
« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2012, 03:55:16 PM »
Quote from: Conrad on January 09, 2012, 02:58:53 PM
No, it doesn't make sense to have the hazards work only with the ignition on. What does make sense is what lt1 said, have a position on the ignition switch that lets you turn the hazards on without the ignition being on.

If your bike is dissabled on the side of the road and you have to leave it, you'd want to be able to turn the flashers on without leaving the ingition on right?

Yeah that has always bugged me. I have stopped along the side of the road and hate the fact the flashers go off when you shut off the ignition. That was an odd oversight on the part of Kawasaki.
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Re: starting
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2012, 06:56:57 PM »
This kind of reminds me of the first trip I had on my Connie.  The Guy brought it to town and told me to go on a nice long test drive and bring it back in an hour or so.  He was no dummy, knew after I rode it that long I'd buy it but I'm still wondering why he sold it, for a Harley :o. Anyway he told me about the controls and shift pattern and a few other things and off I went...... Stopped at a friends house to show him and see what he thought and could not figure out how to start it again.  I had the fob but didn't know to push down before turning and was 20 miles from home and a little nervous that I had broke the thing :-[ anyway I tried a few things and figured it out soon enough and the rest is history.
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Re: starting
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2012, 08:50:33 PM »
I do not think it was an oversight, I believe the mfg. just did not want to sink enough money into the bike (money that we all would have had to spend as well) to 'do the right thing'. Allowing the flashers to be turned on is a mistake and would result in accidental usage and occasionally non- owners turning them on as Clyde pointed out. I think the better way to set it up would be such that the ign. switch had to be 'ON' to turn the hazard flashers on, but once on the ign. could be turned off and the flashers would STAY on. It would take a couple of interlocking relays and additional circuitry to make it work that way though and they would probably still occasionally be left on by accident.... at which point the owner (victim) would say 'Why did they allow the flashers to stay on when the key is turned off?'   ;)

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Quote from: PH14 on January 09, 2012, 03:55:16 PM
Yeah that has always bugged me. I have stopped along the side of the road and hate the fact the flashers go off when you shut off the ignition. That was an odd oversight on the part of Kawasaki.
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Re: starting
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2012, 09:37:44 PM »
Quote from: B.D.F. on January 09, 2012, 08:50:33 PM
I do not think it was an oversight, I believe the mfg. just did not want to sink enough money into the bike (money that we all would have had to spend as well) to 'do the right thing'. Allowing the flashers to be turned on is a mistake and would result in accidental usage and occasionally non- owners turning them on as Clyde pointed out. I think the better way to set it up would be such that the ign. switch had to be 'ON' to turn the hazard flashers on, but once on the ign. could be turned off and the flashers would STAY on. It would take a couple of interlocking relays and additional circuitry to make it work that way though and they would probably still occasionally be left on by accident.... at which point the owner (victim) would say 'Why did they allow the flashers to stay on when the key is turned off?'   ;)

Brian

You mean people do stupid things on accident Brian?  :o
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Re: starting
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2012, 11:59:06 PM »
So, enjoy learning your new bike, cbar 1961!!  The Concours14 ain't as complicated as some would make it seem. 38k in two years. Reliable, I'd say!     Welcome!!
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Re: starting
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2012, 06:07:11 AM »
The method or intent does not really matter- if it can happen, sooner or later it will happen.

Brian


Quote from: PH14 on January 09, 2012, 09:37:44 PM
You mean people do stupid things on accident Brian?  :o
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Re: starting
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2012, 06:30:08 AM »
Hi OP, welcome to the forum.

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