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open pipes?
« on: November 22, 2011, 12:30:06 PM »
A friend was researching audio files of pipes for his V-Max since we both agree that both our bikes are too quiet. We don't want to alarm the city when we fire up but just want a nice throaty rumble. I got to wondering, how loud is a C14 without a muffler, just open after the cat?
Anyone tried it?

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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2011, 02:01:04 PM »
We did it while replacing parts from a storm induced tip over.  Not too bad on idle, angry when giving it the beans.  Sorry no audio file.
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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2011, 02:29:39 PM »
Not sure about "angry" but I thought it might sound rather rough.
I used to race dirt late models with open headers on alcohol. I loved the sound at speed but the idle was pretty hacky and rough.

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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2011, 04:23:35 PM »
I started my Sabre without pipes once... OMG!!!  It kicked off my neighbors car alarm across the street... thought I was going to be deaf afterwards... never again.  :o
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2011, 06:16:51 AM »
Head on over to the Harley forum they can probably tell you :)
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2011, 07:35:01 AM »
A guy up the street from me has a sportbike with no mufflers on it. Open pipe underneath the bike. It sounds like crap to me, like one of those fart can car mufflers.

I saw a vid on youtube of a Connie with no pipe but you can't really tell anything from videos.

I like a more stealth sound. Something that's nice and quiet until you open it up.

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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2011, 08:05:19 AM »
A guy up the street from me has a sportbike with no mufflers on it. Open pipe underneath the bike. It sounds like crap to me, like one of those fart can car mufflers.

I saw a vid on youtube of a Connie with no pipe but you can't really tell anything from videos.

I like a more stealth sound. Something that's nice and quiet until you open it up.

   Yea I'm with you on stealth....most high performance machines are engineered to sound like"sum-thing might be there" at low revs then sounds delicious when opened up-even My LT sounded mean at WOT...my R32 actually opens the exhaust at +3500 rpm and +45 mph so I have a  mod switch to control that action..quiet-loud( + > 10 hp) or stock. This would be a great farkle for all fun machines!

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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2011, 10:03:39 AM »
Head on over to the Harley forum they can probably tell you :)

I know what a Harley sounds like! You can't hardly avoid running over them on warm sunny days here!

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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2011, 11:01:11 AM »
Yeah, darn Harleys, they're all over the place here, even in the winter....  You'd think the riders would know better.
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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2011, 06:33:18 AM »
The days are numbered for the open pipes croud. Just another example of the rights of many being restricted because of the actions of a few.
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2011, 07:00:57 AM »
Yeah, darn Harleys, they're all over the place here, even in the winter....  You'd think the riders would know better.
They must all have winterized here, I was out yesterday, it was beautiful, mid 50's, and saw 2 bikes, neither HD's.

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2011, 07:30:18 AM »
Nothin' pi$$es off the Harley riders more than when you blow by on the quietest superbike on earth -- it scares the crap out of them !! They never even know you're coming 'til it's too late. 

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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2011, 07:32:14 AM »
A guy up the street from me has a sportbike with no mufflers on it. Open pipe underneath the bike. It sounds like crap to me, like one of those fart can car mufflers. I like a more stealth sound. Something that's nice and quiet until you open it up.

+1
I find it amazing people would WANT to annoy everyone and create more noise pollution.  Quiet = nice.  To me, a performance machine is smooth and refined and doesn't have to be loud.
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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2011, 07:37:29 AM »
Yeah, darn Harleys, they're all over the place here, even in the winter....  You'd think the riders would know better.

Apparently not here.  I took route 5 to/from Richmond yesterday, and I was the *ONLY* bike on the road!  (Of course, it was a holiday, but that doesn't normally make much diff, and there were plenty of cars).  In warmer temps, 5 is just CRAWLING with slow/loud/annoying Harley/Harley-type bikes.

Last night, I discovered my Concours cold minimum riding temp, it is about 32F (that is a whopping 20 degrees higher than my last bike).  I could probably push it lower with even more heated clothing, but I don't think any of it will stop my nose from running :)
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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2011, 02:24:47 PM »
Totally squiddish topic
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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2011, 04:56:57 PM »


Last night, I discovered my Concours cold minimum riding temp, it is about 32F (that is a whopping 20 degrees higher than my last bike).  I could probably push it lower with even more heated clothing, but I don't think any of it will stop my nose from running :)

Hahaha, well you can definitely get that limit to lower temperatures. I ride all year in Pittsburgh and still own no heated gear. I really want some, I just have never gotten around to buying any. I routinely ride when it is in the teens. As long as you layer properly all is good. Baker Air wings or the like help a lot. I have a pair of riding pants that have a rain liner and a quilted liner and I am finding that I don;t need the quilted liner unless it is in the 20s. That is for shorter trips, for longer rides I would probably put them in anyway. I usually don't have anything on under the riding pants either, they are my pants.

Under Armor cold weather gear is great for a base layer, it is lightweight and very warm. Cover your neck as well. I have a cover for my neck that is basically a fleece tube I bought in Argentina on my way to Antarctica, it works very well.  ;D

 

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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2011, 09:54:58 PM »
I had the areaP on my c14 (when I had it).  The pipe was reasonable at lower rpm and made a bit more noise at higher revs.

I tried adapting the areap to work on the fz1, but didn't have the means necessary to fabricate the required adaptor.  I sold the areaP and got a 2brothers pipe.  It took some getting used to.  The 2bros is definitely a considerably louder pipe at any rpm than the areap was.  It bothered me at first... So much that I got a silencer tip (drops it 5 or 6 DB).  After a while, I removed the silencer tip.  Haven't put it back in since.  Plenty throaty without sounding like a rice can.

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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2011, 11:12:20 PM »
... how loud is a C14 without a muffler, just open after the cat?

No cat on a C-10, but I fired up Sam one day while the left can was off during a tire change. Gave new meaning to "the loud handle".

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« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2011, 09:29:18 AM »
+1
I find it amazing people would WANT to annoy everyone and create more noise pollution.  Quiet = nice.  To me, a performance machine is smooth and refined and doesn't have to be loud.

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Re: open pipes?
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2011, 11:01:05 AM »
Motorcycles are a reflection of their owners' personality.......
Yep, take a professional politician as an example, I'd like to foam them as well ;D  I did try her when I did the exhaust bob, didnt like the sound, harsh without any melody.  I also did it with the AreaP header, even more harsh.  As described above, the AreaP sounds nice, at idle and roars like a lion WFO.  Cruising is a nice pur, not a droning sound at all.