Author Topic: phil rack vs givi rack (Read 11559 times)

krsron · « **on:** September 19, 2011, 06:37:58 PM »

I'm looking for a rack for my givi monokey. My understanding is phil's rack is easy to install, but does the case move around alot. The givi my understanding is a pain to install but sturdy. any thoughts

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #1 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:10:36 PM »

I can assure you that the Givi mount is sturdy, but the Phils rack is much cleaner looking IMO. I tried to wiggle the empty box that was sitting on another member's Phil's rack and I didn't notice any movement. I didn't wiggle very hard though. I have pulled very hard on my trunk with my Givi rack and it has never budged. I didn't install my Givi rack but as I understand it, it is a pain in the butt to follow the install directions, other than that it is a six beer deal (assuming you drink two per hour).

harryzgnilek · « **Reply #2 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:35:00 PM »

I just bought an E55 with givi mount
would you recommend the dealer installing the mount?

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #3 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:42:45 PM »

I know I would install my own, but if you would rather pay $250 ish for 3 hours minimum of labor go ahead and drink a coffee while you watch them work.

harryzgnilek · « **Reply #4 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:46:21 PM »

true

thanks

any hints?
since the instructions from Givi is bad?

Jeremy Mitchell · « **Reply #5 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:52:49 PM »

Take a look at these and see if it looks like something you can handle. I really don't think it would be too bad, the directions just need more detail.

http://www.giviusa.com/attachfile/content/prodotti_regionali_usa_com/20921/0.0.1.man_sr410.pdf

harryzgnilek · « **Reply #6 on:** September 19, 2011, 07:54:05 PM »

thanks

martin_14 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 20, 2011, 01:05:35 AM »

harry, let me recommend you Phil's rack. I have not idea whatsoever about Givi's thingy, but it took me a whole of 10 minutes to take the useless piece of plastic that Kawa chose to fit on our bike and install the rack from Phil. And it looks and performed perfect. Zero movement. In my opinion it looks cleaner than the Givi thing, for what it's worth.

rtarp1 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:15:11 AM »

projeckted -D best rack out there.

http://projektd.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_58&products_id=174

http://projektd.com/popup_add_image.php?pID=174

stevewfl · « **Reply #9 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:21:15 AM »

I have GIVI rack that bolts directly to the subframe and can carry a load of firewood.

But if i was doing it all over again, I'd buy Phil's rack because its Phil's rack and looks better than anything I've seen yet and has a proven track record

harryzgnilek · « **Reply #10 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:24:35 AM »

thanks

harryzgnilek · « **Reply #11 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:25:39 AM »

Do i still need the Givi mounting plate? ,since it connects to the topbox

COGnosticat0r · « **Reply #12 on:** September 20, 2011, 08:00:50 AM »

Quote from: harryzgnilek on September 20, 2011, 07:25:39 AM

Do i still need the Givi mounting plate? ,since it connects to the topbox

When I got my Phil's rack, I had him put the mounting points for my Givi E52 so if you do that you do not need the Givi plate,

My E52 would move up and down a little so I put some foam tape on the bottom of the Giv and it is as solid as a rock now, no movement at all.

just gone · « **Reply #13 on:** September 20, 2011, 09:15:06 AM »

Quote from: harryzgnilek on September 19, 2011, 07:46:21 PM

any hints?
since the instructions from Givi is bad?

Hint: http://web.mac.com/ke.martin/iWeb/MassCOG/Tips%20&%20Things_files/SR410%20Supplemental%20Instructions.pdf

There is one error, if I recall correctly, the #12 bolts are not 12mm.

jddetroit · « **Reply #14 on:** September 20, 2011, 10:00:53 AM »

I made a rack recently. Bought a plate of aluminum for 21 bucks, and spend 3 hours or so whittling. Not to take away from Phils racks, as I'm sure they're very high quality, however I like to make things myself when I can.
Still needs cleanup, and possibly a hard coat anodize or something.. (hell, maybe just paint...), but I like it so far. Need to find some longer button head screws though so my stuff doesn't get torn up on a trip.

Khrome · « **Reply #15 on:** September 20, 2011, 11:39:08 AM »

Quote from: jddetroit on September 20, 2011, 10:00:53 AM

I made a rack recently. Bought a plate of aluminum for 21 bucks, and spend 3 hours or so whittling. Not to take away from Phils racks, as I'm sure they're very high quality, however I like to make things myself when I can.
Still needs cleanup, and possibly a hard coat anodize or something.. (hell, maybe just paint...), but I like it so far. Need to find some longer button head screws though so my stuff doesn't get torn up on a trip.

Looks like it turned out well...

harryzgnilek · « **Reply #16 on:** September 20, 2011, 12:37:39 PM »

Very nice

wanna send me one

krsron · « **Reply #17 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:11:32 PM »

thanks guys, think i will go with phils rack.

Flathead · « **Reply #18 on:** September 20, 2011, 04:34:56 PM »

Quote from: jddetroit on September 20, 2011, 10:00:53 AM

I made a rack recently. Bought a plate of aluminum for 21 bucks, and spend 3 hours or so whittling. Not to take away from Phils racks, as I'm sure they're very high quality, however I like to make things myself when I can.
Still needs cleanup, and possibly a hard coat anodize or something.. (hell, maybe just paint...), but I like it so far. Need to find some longer button head screws though so my stuff doesn't get torn up on a trip.

You might check to see if there are "Button Head Cap Screws" in the size you need, they are rounded over so they may fit the bill ;-)

Tremainiac · « **Reply #19 on:** September 20, 2011, 07:13:12 PM »

I used this rack with the motech mounts and a Givi top case fits perfectly.
Not as pretty as Phils rack, but 99 bucks. I think it looks great on my Black 09.

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/5670/602/

http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/5670/176/

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