KiPass has no effect on whether or not the saddlebags have to be locked when they are closed. That system simply uses a key to open and close- it has nothing at all to do with KiPass.
How would a 'normal' ignition key be different then the ignition key that comes with a C-14?
It is all fine and well if you do not like KiPass but I am not following your logic in sighting the items that you have and the problems associated with them.
Brian
Because Brian, I still have to remove a key, or get a key out of my pocket, and in this case remove it from the fob to open the bags or the fuel cap. I didn't say KIPASS didn't work, it does, I said it was a poorly implemented system. I still have to use a key, and a normal ignition would work as well since I have to remove the key anyway. A normal ignition key removes easily without having to push down, and wait for the system to release it, turn and remove. With a normal key, you turn off the ignition and pull the key. It couldn't be easier. If I had a bike with no bags and a way to open the fuel cap without a key, then great. As it is, it is a pointless system that only complicates things.
I don't live in fear of KIPASS, I don't even give it any thought. I do think though it is a pointless system since I continually have to use a key anyway. I know you love KIPASS, but for me, I would prefer a simple key. In the bigger picture, I bought the bike knowing it had KIPASS, but wishing it didn't. I bought the bike because it fit my needs and to ride, which i do. I really don't care if this bike has KIPASS or not, but it would be simpler if it didn't.
To add to things, I now have helmet locks on the bike, and another key. Kawasaki didn't seem to think we needed that so now that I have that, I get to juggle yet another key. Maybe they should have called it KeysPass.
Where's Rod Serling when I need him? You guys are getting weird. I could not understand why people are gluing toilet bolt covers to their keys until the zombie threat explained it all.
What can you expect from people who post pictures of their old air filters?
Where's Rod Serling when I need him? You guys are getting weird. I could not understand why people are gluing toilet bolt covers to their keys until the zombie threat explained it all.
What can you expect from people who post pictures of their old air filters?
I was happy to see this and welcome the innovative ideas guys have for this bike. Moving over from the Mean Streak Forums where guys really were innovative and readily shared ideas I found it is a bit of a shock to find the naysayers and arguments against innovation here.
Got that thread- locker handy Jim? Another one bites the dust….
Brian
Gotcha- the 3/8" downward movement of the key downward followed by the seven millisecond delay.
I do not agree- there is no effective difference in using either the fuel cap lock or the saddlebag locks on a bike equipped with KiPass or one without- both require you to withdraw a key, from either the ignition or some other source (pocket, hanging on a lanyard, etc.) to use in another place on the bike.
And I do not see the correlation between KiPass and helmet lock key that you now need. If you had a standard stamped metal ignition key, would something be different about your add- on helmet lock arrangement?
And yes, I do like KiPass but that does not make it any better or worse than it is in reality, just as you not likening it does not make it any better or worse than it is in reality. I certainly appreciate any logical, reasonable thoughts about any system (in the universe, be it KiPass or gravity) but your 'argument' sounds like the old- timers who hated fuel injection and electronic ignition just because it was new. I find KiPass convenient because the key is always in front of me, secure in the ignition. I can get to and use that key faster and easier than any key I have to retrieve from a pocket or lanyard. That, to the best of my belief, is a logical assessment.
YMMV
Got that thread- locker handy Jim? Another one bites the dust….
Brian
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of threads you take part in get locked. You also seem to miss a lot of what people say. I never said I didn't like KIPASS, i personally don't give it much thought day to day. I did say it was a poorly integrated system, the system encompassing the entire bike. Since it still requires the use of a key for the rest of the bike, it isn't a real convenience. As for the helmet locks, it is simply a feature most bikes have that Kawasaki for some reason decided this bike didn't need. Now that I have added it, I need another key. So, had Kawasaki integrated all of it, including helmet locks, it would have been nice. The simple option to leave the bags unlocked would have been nice as well. Or a simple key minus the KIPASS. I just find the system pointless, but it works and allows me to start the bike and ride.
Sorry if I have a different opinion than you do Brian. That's what makes people different. Just because I find KIPASS pointless, solving a problem that simply didn't exist, doesn't mean I hate it or the bike. It also doesn't mean I dislke you or feel you don't have anything to contribute. I do however find your smarta** comments to be a bit tiring at times. That is the last I have to say about this matter.
On the new BMW sport tourer the FOB controls the bags and such too