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Also it doesn't use a spring loaded activation switch, it uses a pushbutton below the LCD screen.....
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I'm not concerned with what Ducati did, but KAWASAKI got KiPass RIGHT.
Even though the BMW FOB controls the luggage and all, still it has not the MAD POW-AH of the mighty KiPass we own
I'm not concerned with what Ducati did, but KAWASAKI got KiPass RIGHT.
Even though the new BMW K1600GT FOB controls the luggage and all, still it has not the MAD POW-AH of the mighty KiPass we own
Yes sir BDF, and I have also corrected my post above for Bob
Perhaps I should clarify, it doesn't have a mechanical switch with a spring, it uses a button akin to a button on a cell phone (Makes contact with a PCB instead of closing a contact between 2 larger wires) Now this model is too new to know how reliable that button will be after being exposed to the elements for a while, but what i DO like is they have the ability to bypass the FOB authentication system and enter a code manually to start the bike.
As much fun as it is to debate Kipass (and it IS fun) it has it's pluses and minuses, and I still assert that for motorcycles this is really a first gen system and they still have not worked out all the bugs yet. Bugs will hit different people differently, which explains why many people have had no problems with it at all, and then you have many who have, and some (like Bob) who REALLY got whammied with Kipass failures.
Reminds me of my old 93 Hyundai Excel, biggest piece of crap I ever owned (I was 19 and it was cheap LOL, so cheap a 19 year old could afford it brand new working part time to make the payments) I had that car for 4 years and 80k miles and in that time I went through 6 transmissions (Kept blowing the syncros and bearings for some reason) 2 AC compressors, a rear Axle, 2 Steering columns and 2 bad wheel bearings.
However, a fellow classmate of mine who bought the same car a year later drove it for years and racked up over 150k without a single issue.... I suspect we are having a similar thing with Kipass,
When it comes to Kawasaki bugs, KiPass has been my exterminator
Perhaps I should clarify, it doesn't have a mechanical switch with a spring, it uses a button akin to a button on a cell phone (Makes contact with a PCB instead of closing a contact between 2 larger wires) Now this model is too new to know how reliable that button will be after being exposed to the elements for a while, but what i DO like is they have the ability to bypass the FOB authentication system and enter a code manually to start the bike.
As much fun as it is to debate Kipass (and it IS fun) it has it's pluses and minuses, and I still assert that for motorcycles this is really a first gen system and they still have not worked out all the bugs yet. Bugs will hit different people differently, which explains why many people have had no problems with it at all, and then you have many who have, and some (like Bob) who REALLY got whammied with Kipass failures.
Reminds me of my old 93 Hyundai Excel, biggest piece of crap I ever owned (I was 19 and it was cheap LOL, so cheap a 19 year old could afford it brand new working part time to make the payments) I had that car for 4 years and 80k miles and in that time I went through 6 transmissions (Kept blowing the syncros and bearings for some reason) 2 AC compressors, a rear Axle, 2 Steering columns and 2 bad wheel bearings.
However, a fellow classmate of mine who bought the same car a year later drove it for years and racked up over 150k without a single issue.... I suspect we are having a similar thing with Kipass,
I can imagine the talk around the nursing home 30 years from now: "In my day, we had a horrible, scary thing called KiPass! It was so bad it stranded not only the bikes it was actually attached to but also any vehicle within a 1,000 yard reference!" Yep, legendary.
Brian
I thought you were going to establish the "First Amalgamated Church of Kipass" to stamp out the unbelievers? LOL
not killing a virgin to make the corn grow or throwing rocks at the moon to ward off its evilness.
So is THAT what people who had Kipass issues did wrong? they couldn't find a Virgin to sacrifice? LOL
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Ok guys, lets take a step back here....
I posted this topic to point out that this type of system is making its' way into other bikes and to highlight the different way Ducati is implementing it, that's it! I am NOT trying to upset people and I most defiantly do NOT want 2 people who are clearly friends pissed at each other....
It wasn't my intention when I created the title but I can see how it could be misconstrued....