... Took my buddies new zx14 for a ride then the next day went to the dealer to pick up a new C14 only to find out they denutted or as I call it detuned it.
Oh man are you gonna get it. Just wait til Max shows up!!Thats why I did it.DETUNED
I'll start with, there is no way you will turn a C-14 into the same powerhouse as a Busa/ZX-14.Familiar with the internal changes. I was going to install a turbo till I found out part of the denutting consisted of lower compression cast pistons.
You can improve it a lot, but It's just not the same animal.
Depending on the $$ spent; you can increase it about 20-30 HP with pipes and flash.
On your removed flies; Ebay is your friend. Just change the whole assembly.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2010-2014-Kawasaki-Concours-14-ABS-ZG1400-Throttle-Body-Bodies-w-Fuel-Injectors/253391582274?epid=1723704312&hash=item3aff50b442:g:pdUAAOSwVVRaa~vZ&vxp=mtr
If you opt to buy another throttle body, you could buy ZX-14 throttle bodies with injectors instead {they are a bit bigger}, install them and {possibly} find a flash for that set up...
https://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-KAWASAKI-NINJA-ZX14-ZX14R-THROTTLE-BODIES-W-FUEL-INJECTORS-COMPLETE-NICE/263461622142?fits=Make%3AKawasaki&hash=item3d5789517e:g:fLUAAOSwKwVabAdi&vxp=mtr
Daytona {and others}, have already done the fly removal trick w/controller, and many went back to flash with flies..
I know Daytona knows a lot more about this than I...
Ride safe, Ted
I still have the removed screws and plates, however one of the screws twisted off so it would make reinstalling them a chore. I havent even thought about picking a vendor for the reflash. I was under the impression once the flies were removed there was no flash available and not much increase in hp would be realized.
My only disappointment with the bike since the first time I picked the bike up was the disappointing hp vs a zx14. I had a C10 and was waiting for a new Concours. Took my buddies new zx14 for a ride then the next day went to the dealer to pick up a new C14 only to find out they denutted or as I call it detuned it.
Oh man are you gonna get it. Just wait til Max shows up!!
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It isn't really "detuned", it is "re-tuned" for different/specific purposes like fuel economy, smoothness, comfort, reliability, lower maintenance, etc. Everything in life is a tradeoff What the C14 is designed/tuned to do, it does well.... except they could have done it better, which is why reflashing helps the bike really become what it should have been in the first place (because they robbed way too much responsiveness). But if you aren't looking for refinement, then the C14 probably isn't the best bike for ya, the ZX14 might be a better choice. Nothing wrong with that.
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Would you settle for "untuned"?surely an untuned engine wouldn't run correctly full stop
surely an untuned engine wouldn't run correctly full stop
Lesstuned?
Undertuned?
Footnotes
http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno/9268-2006-Kawasaki-ZX-14-Dyno.jpg
https://sites.google.com/site/shoodabenengineering/_/rsrc/1505486038941/concours1400/EVOLUTION%20vs%20Stock.PNG
http://areapnolimits.com/images/product/c14_dyno_big.gif
http://www.badasscars.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=product/product_id=68/category_id=13/mode=prod/prd68.htm
[url=http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2006/11/01november06_concoursvvt]http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2006/11/01november06_concoursvvt
https://www.motorcyclistonline.com/variable-valve-timing-technology-for-motorcycles
For example, the stock C14 at 3KRPM is around 70 FtLbs and the stock ZX14 is a lot *LESS* at around 50! At 4K, the C14 is around 80 and the ZX14 around 70.
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So folks you heard it here first, max' says the ZX14 is the detuned bike!