My 2012 that I just got, currently has 13,700 miles on it. Likely will hit 15k+ around the end of the summer and will either be in FL or TX. Just got the extended 36 month coverage on the bike, and trying to determine if I will check at 15k or 20k. No way I can do it myself, and every dealer I talk to says they don't need it and have never seen a bike with one valve out of spec... makes me very cautious of even letting a dealer touch the valve check.
Well, they were moaning at the amount of work...
When mentioned, it was an audible groan., and the fact that folks that do their own checks often find something out of spec and they say they have never seen a valve out of spec... just makes you wonder if they are doing the work properly and just pulling and looking and throwing it all back together asap.
I have not done it (nor will I) but based on what I have read on the forum and in the factory manual, it is a LOT of work.Actually if you ask the 3 main people on each of the forums that do many of the valve checks for forum members you will find the opposite, Most bikes have a few out of spec valves !
Good points. Of course, I often wonder if any work is really done properly by shops. I tend to be like you, not very trusting.
I will point out that (based on what I have read/seen/heard) few have found anything out of spec when checked at the recommended USA interval. Even when it is far past the interval, most find none out of spec. I don't have any hard data, though (one thread started a poll, but it wasn't well worded and sample size wasn't great) . That isn't to say people don't EVER find anything out of spec, or at the edge of just being in spec at the USA interval. It is a kind of gamble in which the odds appear to overwhelmingly support waiting longer. If it were easy to do, it wouldn't be a big deal.
One thing to consider- magically, the manuals for non-USA/CDN bikes call for a valve check at 25K miles, not 15K. And those bikes have identical heads, valves, springs, pistons, cams, seats, blocks, etc, etc. So why is it that USA/CDN bikes should be checked at 15K and the same bike sold outside that area are 25K? At a minimum, that would tend to imply 25K is safe, even based on Kawasaki's own recommendations.
There are no easy answers on this topic. (Just the same questions hashed over and over in similar threads )
Actually if you ask the 3 main people on each of the forums that do many of the valve checks for forum members you will find the opposite, Most bikes have a few out of spec valves !
But at what INTERVAL? That is the big question.15-25,000
15-25,000
Exactly. And for every post of someone saying theirs needed adjustment, I can find one that said theirs was fine. Not scientific, just interesting. Here is a pick from 2014 http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=16175.msg197998#msg197998 "I had my 2008 ABS in for it's first valve adjustment at 112,000 miles, and was told that the valves were still in spec." Yet in the same thread there was someone else posting that at 25K they had all 16 "out of or at the edge of tolerance".After a couple hours of reading threw all the new & old Valve adjust threads on both forums I have come to the conclusion that the majority of Owners stating that their valves required no adjustment were done at dealerships, The majority stating that adjustment WAS needed were done by the owners themselves or people/mechanics they know. This is at all mileage. Come to your own decisions but if done at a dealership I would want documented proof & pictures that they actually did check them. I have a feeling many valve covers never even get removed but customers are told all is IN spec !.
On this thread: http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=2375.0 The poll had 30 of 53 (57%) reporting that at 15K they were in spec. On another thread, a poll reported 12 of 23 (53%) that everything was in spec, but the interval wasn't addressed (so it was at ANY mileage, that could be 15k, 26k, 30k, 50k, whatever).
If you can find a bike that was out of spec at 15K, does that mean the recommended interval was too short or too long? So how does that impact Kawasaki's recommendation to the rest of the world for it being 26K? I like the say B.D.F. says it:
"There is absolutely nothing wrong with following the maintenance schedule set forth by Kawasaki for US bikes. I am simply saying that there are other considerations that may make disregarding the suggested intervals and using other intervals perfectly sound and reasonable."
One thing to consider- magically, the manuals for non-USA/CDN bikes call for a valve check at 26K miles, not 15K. And those bikes have identical heads, valves, springs, pistons, cams, seats, blocks, etc, etc. So why is it that USA/CDN bikes should be checked at 15K and the same bike sold outside that area are 26K? At a minimum, that would tend to imply 26K is safe, even based on Kawasaki's own recommendations.
I think the answer to the OP's question is YES.
I believe there are at least 3 members in different areas who will work on members bikes.
Billy, reach out and ask. I don't know what they would charge but would guess that it would be less than a dealer.
And you would also know that the person working on your bike is someone who cares about them, most likely owning one them self.
It may be just a coincident that 25,000km =15,500 miles. Could be kawi did not get the units right between USA (miles) and the rest of the world(km).