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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #100 on: September 07, 2014, 07:07:33 AM »
Back when the '08 came out, there were of course a lot of generic complaints but also a small number of very earnest people with laundry lists of what Kawasaki needed to do to "fix" the bike. And Kawasaki listened- now we have linked brakes, KTRC, and a price tag approaching $17K (the '08 brand new was $12,699 as I remember, full retail) during 5 years of 2- 3% inflation. So as the whiners keep it up, soon enough the bike will crack $20K and yet the whining will not end, just change pitch and note for other 'needed' changes.

How does it go- be careful what you wish for, you may get it?

All of that is making a VFR1200 attractive. If it were not for the drive line snatch, I think it would be a great bike. And maybe, just maybe, the drive line snatch can be buffered too.... :-)

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No word on the Concours-14 yet?

I think I'll stick with my 2010 C14 anyway...maybe swap my Rostra kit for  MC Cruise this winter if I'm feelin' wealthy. If they DO change the C14 for 2015, I fear it will be for the worse anyway, since everybody wants it to be like a BMW 1600 Luxo-tourer with every option available to man. I think the North American masses will drive Kawasaki to turn the bike into more of a sport-TOURING bike instead of a SPORT-touring bike. I'm sure it will get more power, but it will likely also get bigger and heavier too...bigger windscreen, higher handlebars, winder fairings, etc. If you read any of the magazines or these forums, everybody wants the ultimate in comfort with zero wind ever touching their body or helmet, etc. I guess we'll see soon enough, and then in October we can start a new thread about predictions for the 2016 Concours-14...lol.

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #101 on: September 07, 2014, 07:20:01 AM »
Back when the '08 came out, there were of course a lot of generic complaints but also a small number of very earnest people with laundry lists of what Kawasaki needed to do to "fix" the bike. And Kawasaki listened- now we have linked brakes, KTRC, and a price tag approaching $17K (the '08 brand new was $12,699 as I remember, full retail) during 5 years of 2- 3% inflation. So as the whiners keep it up, soon enough the bike will crack $20K and yet the whining will not end, just change pitch and note for other 'needed' changes.

How does it go- be careful what you wish for, you may get it?

All of that is making a VFR1200 attractive. If it were not for the drive line snatch, I think it would be a great bike. And maybe, just maybe, the drive line snatch can be buffered too.... :-)

Brian
...and after all the supposed value added cost increases it will still lose half it's value in three years.

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #102 on: September 07, 2014, 07:28:08 AM »
Back when the '08 came out, there were of course a lot of generic complaints but also a small number of very earnest people with laundry lists of what Kawasaki needed to do to "fix" the bike. And Kawasaki listened- now we have linked brakes, KTRC, and a price tag approaching $17K (the '08 brand new was $12,699 as I remember, full retail) during 5 years of 2- 3% inflation. So as the whiners keep it up, soon enough the bike will crack $20K and yet the whining will not end, just change pitch and note for other 'needed' changes.

How does it go- be careful what you wish for, you may get it?

All of that is making a VFR1200 attractive. If it were not for the drive line snatch, I think it would be a great bike. And maybe, just maybe, the drive line snatch can be buffered too.... :-)

Brian

A new 2014 C14 at the local dealer here in Canada is $19,299 and of course they want to charge freight ($599) and PDI ($299) on top of that. Oh, and lets not forget the 15% provincial tax...lol. That puts a new C14 just over $23,000 out the door.

Of course the prices drops drastically in the fall, and you can get the same bike for $16,999 but the extra fees and taxes are still there.

This is why I refuse to buy new most of the time, when I can pick up a lightly used model in the US for FAR less.

My 2010 C14 (ABS/Ktrc) with 4300 miles was $9500 bucks USD...back in 2012. So I don't get any warranty....pfft...even if I DID have to pay for shop labor, which I don't, I can buy a lot of repairs for almost $10,000 in savings...lol. The risk is extremely low imho.

Anyway...that's all irrelevant with regards to the current topic. Even IF the 2015 C14 has changes that I like (I highly doubt it), I wouldn't be buying one until at least 2017 anyway...lol. For Rembrant, it's a non-issue at this point in the game.

I'm not saying it should stay as it is forever either, but in the grand scheme of things, it is my opinion that the public will drive this beautiful motorcycle into being something that some of us (the minority...lol) will dislike.

Maybe not...lol, so I guess we'll wait and see won't we?

And just to add to it all, It seems strange to me (at my young age) to dislike all these so-called "enhancements" and "upgrades" for greater comfort and further gadgetry and accessories, but the "better" things get, the more I just want to buy something like an old Suzuki Bandit for $5000 to do my sport-touring on....for it's simplicity and cost effectiveness (and I'm the farthest thing in the world from being a Suzuki fan). Whatever happened to "roughing it" with traditional handlebars and a couple analog gauges?....lol. Open the gas cap and give the bike a shake to see if you have enough fuel left. 8)

That's my rant for the day;).

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #103 on: September 08, 2014, 07:12:25 AM »
In may of this year i bought my 2013 for $12500 out the door, so i still think even though first model years can be higher, the concours can be had for a lot less than a BMW. Do i wish i had cruise and a bit more snap at rollon speeds, yes, but for a few $$ that will be resolved this winter.

AS for the 2015, if they come out with some big changes i will have to wait a few more years. A buddy just sent me the new goldwing pictures, fancy paint,badges and black out chrome for $30k ...i hope kawasaki doesnt go that route!

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #104 on: September 10, 2014, 06:45:26 AM »
Kawasaki's web site has the 2015's listed for most of their lineup except the concours. New C14 to follow??

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #105 on: September 10, 2014, 06:50:07 AM »
Nothing on the UK site either....

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/en/products

or the Australian site.

http://www.kawasaki.com.au/
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #106 on: September 10, 2014, 06:55:37 AM »
Yep, same lineup that they were showing a week or more ago.  Looks like they are making lots of changes in the products, but still no C 14.   Here's direct link for new products, posted a week ago.

http://www.kawasaki.com/NPL/Default.aspx
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Re: 2015 connie
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #108 on: September 10, 2014, 07:01:41 AM »
Got this email on the 9th:

http://view.email.kawasaki.com/?j=fe92177577620c7f76&m=fe9c15707663077f76&ls=fdf21072726d007976117072&l=feca117476640575&s=fe2f15717760017e721372&jb=ffcf14&ju=fe2e15727367037d741376&r=0

No mention of the Concours so I don't think there will be any significant changes.

Shoot, the only thing I ever get from them are extended warranty quotes that are outragiously high.  One would have to be

high himself to spend so much on the policy.  $750 for three years. 
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #109 on: September 10, 2014, 07:33:23 AM »
Interesting, not, that every section had information about 2015 models, except the Concours which just had a 2014.  Does that mean they aren't even coming out with a 2015?   ???

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #110 on: September 10, 2014, 07:55:08 AM »
Kwakers has proven themselves to be inscrutable.  We'll know when we know.
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #111 on: September 10, 2014, 10:06:54 AM »
That email/page didn't mention the Ninja H2 and we know that will be a new bike for 2015.

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #112 on: September 10, 2014, 10:24:23 AM »
That email/page didn't mention the Ninja H2 and we know that will be a new bike for 2015.

I doubt that they would introduce a brand new model without more fanfare..  Read it is to be introduced at the Intermot in October.
The image just looks like another sport bike to me.  I'd rather they make a real DS, using the 650 twin from the Versys, with off road suspension and wheel set ups. 

http://www.motoroids.com/news/video-2014-kawasaki-ninja-h2-teased-before-intermot-debut/
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #113 on: September 10, 2014, 11:20:23 AM »
Interesting, not, that every section had information about 2015 models, except the Concours which just had a 2014.  Does that mean they aren't even coming out with a 2015?   ???
If they weren't making any changes, they would of listed the '15 along with the others. I bet they are waiting to announce a new bike...perhaps at intermot along with the new H2?? Is it Sept 30th yet?? :)
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #114 on: September 10, 2014, 12:33:46 PM »
Interesting, not, that every section had information about 2015 models, except the Concours which just had a 2014.  Does that mean they aren't even coming out with a 2015?   ???

No '15 Versys information yet.  All the other bikes mostly just new color choices.  Or should I say recycled color choices.  When was the last time Kawasaki went with an entirely new color on any bike?
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #115 on: September 10, 2014, 01:24:21 PM »
No '15 Versys information yet.  All the other bikes mostly just new color choices.  Or should I say recycled color choices.  When was the last time Kawasaki went with an entirely new color on any bike?

The Versys 650 and the Versys 1000 are getting updated for 2015. The 1000 is getting a major change/update, and the 650 is supposed to be updated as well, but how much of an update hasn't been mentioned.

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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #116 on: September 10, 2014, 07:21:41 PM »
2015 Versys 1000...
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #117 on: September 10, 2014, 07:26:21 PM »
2015 Versys 1000...

Looks like a Tiger 1050.  Sure hope the front lighting is better.  Tiger's headlights were  horrible.  Worst I ever rode at night, tp
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #118 on: September 11, 2014, 05:52:02 AM »
2015 Versys 1000...


I like the stacked headlights on my '11 Versys.  The new 1000 just looks like all the other bikes now.  From the front end you can't tell the difference between a Concours and a Maxi-scooter. 
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Re: 2015 connie
« Reply #119 on: September 11, 2014, 04:11:59 PM »
If they weren't making any changes, they would of listed the '15 along with the others. I bet they are waiting to announce a new bike...perhaps at intermot along with the new H2?? Is it Sept 30th yet?? :)
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