Author Topic: Concours 14 Brake Rotors (Read 33872 times)

mikeboileau · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2011, 12:44:54 PM »

Mine are OK now and I hope they stay that way.

sycamoredave · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2011, 04:24:35 AM »

'08 with 13K+. We just did a tire change, and on the way home I noticed a complete loss of the front brake, with the back pulsing more than it had been. I had a couple thrilling moments on a downhill section to a stop sign when I discovered there was no front brake! I took the bike back, we bled the system, got the brake to work, and when I backed away to leave, the same thing happened - no brake. My bike tech determined that they must have bent the rotors when changing the tires. He has agreed to make it right. His solution going forward is to remove the rotors before changing the tires. The stock rotors are very soft metal. Has anyone else had this happen during tire changes?

Ride safe...

Dave

VirginiaJim · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2011, 07:43:55 AM »

Well, I'm assuming I'm the nutjob that bent them the first time I had the front rubber changed but in retrospect it could have been the tire people. I had the same symptom with the brake lever. In order to do that they had to have warped/bent the carrier pretty severely I would think.

JetJock · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2011, 08:56:37 AM »

2010 ABS, no issues yet. But she needs some more miles piled on.

Big B · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:03:57 AM »

20K km and no problems. No riding YET this year due to injured leg!

Where are you? I'm in Regina.
BB

atlantaM3 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 20, 2011, 10:31:18 AM »

2010 ABS. cooked the fronts requiring replacement at 1800 miles. I have 8k on it now, replacements seem fine so far.

Steve Bell · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:29:06 PM »

Quote from: Big B on June 20, 2011, 10:03:57 AM

20K km and no problems. No riding YET this year due to injured leg! Where are you? I'm in Regina.
BB

Saskatoon.

myleslong · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2011, 02:58:50 PM »

08 W/18,000 miles. No ABS.
Rotors changed first time @ 8,800 miles. Started pulsing again 'bout a thousand miles ago...getting worse daily.
Time to see if the extended warranty was worth the money.
Myles

Mi 14 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2011, 06:15:27 PM »

08, ABS. Stock started warping at around 17k, went straight to Galfers(Waves and pads). Now at 30k+ with nothing but superior braking!

Burbs · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2011, 06:29:12 PM »

It appears I'll be going on my 2nd set of rotors as well. It got really bad this weekend so I booked my appointment. My service guy told me that Kawi seems to have "fixed" the issue on the 2011 with designing a whole new rotor and pad system. He said that these can be installed on the older bikes as well. I kind of got the impression that it may be a pain in the ass to get Kawi to cover this second set. If they decide to balk at it, I'm going to aftermarket.

-Burbs

KawiMick · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2011, 06:09:40 PM »

Quote from: Mi 14 on June 20, 2011, 06:15:27 PM

08, ABS. Stock started warping at around 17k, went straight to Galfers(Waves and pads). Now at 30k+ with nothing but superior braking!

MI,
I just ordered my Galfers on Thursday from Cycle brakes in Ventura. They had a better deal for me
than Galfers in Oxnard.....go figure.

My right side rotor is causing all my problem. The disc is thin in three spots around the rotor. It varies
over .003" and the shudder from high speed shakes the bars. I'm not sure if I'll tell my dealer or not, I was
not going to replace crap rotors with new crap rotors. The fact that they are not full floating caused my
problem for sure. As you heat the rotor, they move about .040" but it goes away when cold. Convincing a
dealer of this would be more work than it's worth to me.
Till the end of June, if you order two front rotors they give you a free rear rotor. The ZX-14 ABS rear
they are sending may or may not fit. I'll either find a use for it or sell it to cut my losses.
I went with their HH Ceramic front pads and the HH normal rear pads. I'll report on how they feel when it
cools off a little.
UPDATE: The pads work great, good bite and no noise.

Mick

Steve Bell · « **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2011, 06:28:11 PM »

Quote from: KawiMick on June 25, 2011, 06:09:40 PM

I just ordered my Galfers on Thursday from Cycle brakes in Ventura.

Mick

I really hope you have better luck with Galfer rotors than I did! Mine have been shipped back to Galfer waiting on their decision if they will replace them or not.

KawiMick · « **Reply #32 on:** June 25, 2011, 07:52:37 PM »

Steve,
Tell me more......bad braking or noise or

?

Mick

Steve Bell · « **Reply #33 on:** June 26, 2011, 06:28:13 AM »

Quote from: KawiMick on June 25, 2011, 07:52:37 PM

Steve,
Tell me more......bad braking or noise or ?

Mick

Mick,
Read this thread I started about my Galfer rotors warped after only 3500 KMS (2000 Miles)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1090.30

Galfer is not sure if they want to do anything about it and they have not been the easiest company to deal with so far!

KawiMick · « **Reply #34 on:** June 28, 2011, 12:28:26 PM »

Steve,
Thanks! I have a slight advantage.....we have a house about 12 miles from their shop in
Oxnard and I can camp on their doorstep if they fail to resolve a warranty issue. I have not
done the break-in on mine yet but I will tomorrow. I checked my runout before using them
and it is about .0015 on both sides right now.
My OEM right side had thin spots and that caused my bars to shake at anything above 40MPH
with moderate braking.

Mick

martin_14 · « **Reply #35 on:** June 29, 2011, 01:28:20 AM »

which box should I tick if I have the original rotors and they are slowly starting to warp?

KawiMick · « **Reply #36 on:** June 29, 2011, 06:21:01 AM »

Box #1 Martin.

Mick
(I'm going out now for a little break-in ride to breakfast) 12,300miles

UPDATE: Nicely broken-in and they are smooth! I love 'em. I measured the runout at 0.10mm Left and 0.14mm right.
They are full floaters (unlike the Nissan's) so the runout is a bit meaningless.

Bourne2Ride · « **Reply #37 on:** June 30, 2011, 05:05:20 PM »

3800 miles on my 2011 and no issues with the rotors.

KawiMick · « **Reply #38 on:** June 30, 2011, 07:39:21 PM »

Quote from: Steve Bell on June 26, 2011, 06:28:13 AM

Mick,
Read this thread I started about my Galfer rotors warped after only 3500 KMS (2000 Miles)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=1090.30

Galfer is not sure if they want to do anything about it and they have not been the easiest company to deal with so far!

Steve,
Did you buy the full floating Wave rotors? Have you checked the thickness of the
rotors? Mine are slightly thicker than the stock rotors but very even around the surface
of the disc. If there is any variance, more than about 0.003" in thickness, you will feel it.
It will act like a warped disc but won't push the pads back like a warped disc tends to do.
My bars would shake at anything above about 50MPH quick stops.

Mick

Steve Bell · « **Reply #39 on:** July 03, 2011, 08:16:30 PM »

Quote from: KawiMick on June 30, 2011, 07:39:21 PM

Steve,
Did you buy the full floating Wave rotors? Have you checked the thickness of the
rotors? Mine are slightly thicker than the stock rotors but very even around the surface
of the disc. If there is any variance, more than about 0.003" in thickness, you will feel it.
It will act like a warped disc but won't push the pads back like a warped disc tends to do.
My bars would shake at anything above about 50MPH quick stops.

Mick

Mick, Yes I bought the full floating standard wave rotors but not the Superbike rotors, my thickness variance was less than .001" all the way around and I would hope so with only 2000 miles of use. What I am feeling has got to be the large run out I have on one side. I sent the rotors off to Galfer and have not heard anything yet. Wanna knock on their door and ask them to hurry up?

Steve.

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