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Offline Alex_V

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2013, 07:39:56 PM »
So, with all the evidence of poor treatment in the past I was certain oil in the forks is shot. Fork seals were not leaking so it will be just a change of fluids. Manual calls for 15oz of 5 weight in each, so I picked up a 33oz can of Maxima 5 weight fork oil. So lets see how this works out….

Made a classic rookie mistake of not loosening the caps before taking forks out of the triples. So first I had to put them back into triples so I can break the caps loose. Unfortunately I didn't have a deep socket and had to do use a wrench. Left some marks on the caps, but hell… it's a little scar, and chicks dig scars.

Didn't feel like working in cold garage, so it's kitchen time….. Thanksgiving dinner table full of win



Checked the forks for being out of round. And as suspected previously it's only triples that were damaged. Forks look good. No marks on chrome either.





Left fork was drained first. That is the side where lower triple is damaged. Fluid is very thick and gooey like. Strange, but whatever. Looks pretty dirty to me. Exactly 15oz came out. Mark was made on the cup just for reference.



Time to drain the right fork. Now this is where things got interesting!!!! Fluid is of much lower viscosity and pours out way more freely. Same 15 oz but of much different viscosity. This one puzzles me. I remember looking at fork caps and one looked virgin, and never opened. Other I wasn't 100% sure. It could of been very very carefully opened. So, why is there such a difference in fluids? Any thoughts of what could of happened here? Right fork fluid was a bit darker to.



For comparison that is what new fluid looks like.



Everything is put back together and last I wanted to record what damping settings previous owner was running. Surprisingly one is full hard 14 out of 14 clicks, and other is 12 out of 14. I put them both in the middle 7 out of 14 and will dial in when bike is operational.

I went to look for compression damping screw, and realized that there is none of that on Concours. Well, I can live without compression damping adjustment. Most likely would of just left it in the middle and forgot that it's there :)

Not sure what will be next, probably finishing up the valve job.

Cheers,
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Offline Alex_V

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2013, 07:46:52 PM »
Quote from: stevewfl on November 28, 2013, 06:13:15 PM
MOST EXCELLENT THREAD!   Bike Porn is just an added touch to a build thread


Please Alex disregard the threadjacking and continue.  And if you need me to share a service manual or a top secret this or that please let me know. H*ll if your near Tampa I'll come over and give you a hand...and bring some studio photography lighting (and a model, makeup, and hair artist too with enough notice) ;D

Thanks Steve, I am near Atlanta, but otherwise would of taken up on your offer ;) feel free to stop by if you are ever in Atlanta. I can take you to some great riding roads in North Ga.

Looking at you avatar you race CCS or WERA? I still come out to the track sometimes to spectate. Perhaps I will run into you some day. Not sure if I miss those days, but it was a good rush for sure. Here is a pic from the past.

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2013, 08:01:27 PM »
Quote from: Alex_V on November 28, 2013, 07:39:56 PM
I went to look for compression damping screw, and realized that there is none of that on Concours

rebound and compression : both adjustable.

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Offline Alex_V

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2013, 08:05:56 PM »
Quote from: pistole on November 28, 2013, 08:01:27 PM
rebound and compression : both adjustable.

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On a 2008? I must be loosing it today, but where is the compression damping adjustment? I am pretty certain it is only adjustable for preload, and rebound.
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2013, 05:58:16 AM »

Great job Alex, this is good stuff.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2013, 09:18:35 AM »
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2013, 12:11:04 PM »
Hi Alex.....love the TZ's.... 8)

Yeah, no compression adj. Here are the standard settings ( 150 lb rider )

Spring preload

Adjuster protrusion is 14 mm (0.55 in.)
(Usable range: 4 ∼ 19 mm) (0.16 ∼ 0.75 in.)

Rebound adj.

5th click from the 1st click of the fully clockwise position
(Usable range: 0 ←→ 11 clicks)

I see you are using 5 wt. Not positive but they may have raised the amount by an ounce on the 2010 and up units. That is all they changed and the addition of a 2 year newer tire got rave reviews for the improved low speed handling.

Will check on that amount for you....great thread....... :chugbeer:

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2013, 12:24:10 PM »
Hi Alex....
They did indeed increase the amount.  +25ml

25mL = 0.84535us fl oz

Everything else the same.

Like that RD 400 too. I have a 1973 RD 350 in the garage corner waiting for some tlc.   :)
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2013, 12:28:23 PM »
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Offline Alex_V

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2013, 03:32:32 PM »
Now that is one clean garage… wish my place was this nice )) Thanks for the info

So, today was a check card warrior day. Ordered 5 shims from JakeWilson.com, plus a new battery, and spark plugs. Just over a hundred bucks to get free shipping. Hopefully all parts get here by mid next week so I can wrap up the valve job.


Next I really need to hunt down straight lower triples, and few more bits.

Does anyone have a cracked in the front headlight assembly? Mine has a few tabs broken on the back, it looks like a replaceable part. But you can't buy it from Kawasaki.
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Offline Alex_V

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2013, 10:25:05 AM »
For the lack of project progress I took a better pic of my friends RD. We cranked it up yesterday just to find out that carb boot is leaking… more crap to fix

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #51 on: December 02, 2013, 10:43:33 AM »
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2013, 11:26:30 AM »
Thanks for the bump. Things are on hold. Waiting on shims that should arrive in the next few days. Here is a mostly completed list of parts that I am currently aware off. It's much harder to find used bits than I anticipated. If anyone knows of a Concours being parted out plz let me know.

LOCK-ASSY, SIDE BAG, LH   27016-5355 (latch part broken)

WINDSHIELD-ASSY   55036-0005 (whole assembly was replaced by a home made aluminum bracket)

BRACKET,COWLING   11055-1804 (aluminum piece that bolts to headstock)

STAY,COWLING,RH CNUS   35063-0675 (steel bracket on right hand side, this I may be able to re-use)

COVER,INNER,RH   14092-0114 (black plastic cover on top of side fairing)

COVER-ASSY   16146-0081 (These are glove box part numbers)
COVER-ASSY   16146-0084 (Same)

DISC,FR,HOUSING BLACK+DISC SIL   41080-0102-5C (Both front disc are warped, can I use discs from other models?)
DISC,FR,HOUSING BLACK+DISC SIL   41080-0102-5C

COVER,METER   14091-0890 (outside dash cover, mine has scratches not a must)
BRACKET,METER COVER,LH   11054-1786 (little bracket that connects to left air duct)
KNOB,AIMING   92077-0015 (headlight adjustment knob has some scratches, not a must)

COWLING,LWR,RH,BLACK   55028-0200-18T (black right side lower fairing)

HOLDER-FORK UNDER   44037-0061 (lower triples, do any other models fit?)
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2013, 03:26:36 PM »
 :thumbs: on the rebuild!

PinWall Cycles parts out C14's all the time on eBay. If you can't find a part online, give them a call.
http://stores.ebay.com/PinWall-Cycle-Parts-Inc/Concours-/_i.html?_nkw=ZG1400&submit=Search&_fsub=3442370014&_sid=12458664
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2013, 05:14:34 AM »
Good tip! Thanks.
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2013, 02:06:22 PM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on December 07, 2013, 05:14:34 AM
Good tip! Thanks.


Yes! Thank you.... :)

Looked around on there and found this....OUCH! :(  Alex I think you did pretty good on yours..... ;)

Scroll down to see picture's of the bike this exhaust came off of.... :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Kawasaki-Concours-ZG1400-1400-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-SYSTEM-/130972926736?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e7e984310#ht_3934wt_943
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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #56 on: December 07, 2013, 04:37:11 PM »
Quote from: Warbird on December 07, 2013, 02:06:22 PM

Yes! Thank you.... :)

Looked around on there and found this....OUCH! :(  Alex I think you did pretty good on yours..... ;)

Scroll down to see picture's of the bike this exhaust came off of.... :o

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Kawasaki-Concours-ZG1400-1400-EXHAUST-MUFFLER-SYSTEM-/130972926736?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1e7e984310#ht_3934wt_943

You can have my potato launcher for the price of shipping. Came off my 2010 and is in good condition.
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Offline Alex_V

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #57 on: December 07, 2013, 05:02:52 PM »
So, I got the shims to complete the valve job… Somehow I missed a few that were needed. So valve job on hold. Attempted to put a new battery, and realized I am better off attempting that surgery during day hours. Whoever did this has to be looking for a new job. Pic in a sec
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Offline Alex_V

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #58 on: December 07, 2013, 05:10:51 PM »
Battery wiring magic… what the hell were they thinking?



Some minor plastic bits came in:

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Re: Rebuilding a C14
« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2013, 06:22:44 PM »
Great thread. Keep sharing. Had the same feeling about the battery. :o
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