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Oil pressure light after oil change
« on: October 11, 2013, 09:15:49 AM »
I have a 2011 Concours 14.  I notice that after changing the oil it seems to take a long time for the low oil pressure light to go out.  I see the same behavior on the Ninja 1000.  On my other motorcycles after the oil change the low oil pressure goes out in about 10 seconds.  I have not measure it but on the Kawi's it seems to take over a minute.  I think this is too long for oil pressure to come up.  After the first start it behaves normally.  I am using Kawi filters and Castrol MC oil 10W-40

Is anyone else seeing this?

I have Googled it and there seems to be a number of post showing this is a common Kawi problem with complaints on the ZX12, ZX10, ZX636, etc.

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2013, 09:40:13 AM »
a couple seconds is normal for air to be pushed out of the system.  Mine turns off after maybe 3 seconds.  If it takes a minute I'd say something is not right.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2013, 10:50:33 AM »
a couple seconds is normal for air to be pushed out of the system.  Mine turns off after maybe 3 seconds.  If it takes a minute I'd say something is not right.

+1 Mine goes out right away. I'd be concerned if it took a minute.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2013, 12:35:52 PM »
Yeah, I agree with dose guys- something is wrong if it takes one Earth minute to pressurize the system enough to put out the oil warning light.

You are either not flowing enough oil (clogged pick up screen, worn oil pump, cracked pick-up allowing air into the oil, etc.) or the oil light sensor is faulty. I would suggest putting an actual pressure gauge on the oil galleys (a standard test shown in the service manual) to check the engine's oil pressure.

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I have a 2011 Concours 14.  I notice that after changing the oil it seems to take a long time for the low oil pressure light to go out.  I see the same behavior on the Ninja 1000.  On my other motorcycles after the oil change the low oil pressure goes out in about 10 seconds.  I have not measure it but on the Kawi's it seems to take over a minute.  I think this is too long for oil pressure to come up.  After the first start it behaves normally.  I am using Kawi filters and Castrol MC oil 10W-40

Is anyone else seeing this?

I have Googled it and there seems to be a number of post showing this is a common Kawi problem with complaints on the ZX12, ZX10, ZX636, etc.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2013, 12:56:41 PM »
Yeah, I agree with dose guys- something is wrong if it takes one Earth minute to pressurize the system enough to put out the oil warning light.

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Other types of minutes are more acceptable?

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2013, 01:01:05 PM »
Other types of minutes are more acceptable?

On Saturn a day is ~11 Earth hours. So yes, a Saturn minute would be more acceptable.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2013, 01:28:39 PM »
Yes. This is the Internet so of course I do not know where the writer is: supposing he is on the Sun, for example, and his 'minutes' would only 4 Earth seconds long- perfectly acceptable IMO. Of course the oil would be quite thin (actually it would be a gas, in oh so many ways) so that pressurization period would be extremely acceptable.

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2013, 01:31:06 PM »
Yep, he's absolutely  :nuts: .....Brian, that is.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2013, 02:39:27 PM »
I like you guys... it makes me feel better to know I'm not the ONLY one here who is broken in the brain parts.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2013, 02:51:18 PM »
Hey, you are getting the filtered version- I get the raw feed straight from the voices....

A few weeks ago, I saw a gentleman being interviewed on some TV show or other (not actively watching it at the time, just happened along at exactly the wrong moment) and he was talking about his testicular sac (his words) had swollen until it weighed 132 lbs. That is the truth. Now here comes the unusual part (you knew there had to be an unusual part, right?): he was having difficulty or could no longer do the following: walk, sit, ride in a car, stand, etc. etc. ad nauseum WHEN SUDDENLY he conjured up a solution: he put a 'hoodie' on upside down and put.... that heavy thing in the head pocket. While I applaud the gentleman for ingenuity and making use of the tools at hand, I cannot help but wonder how he can do such a thing because I would think the arm- holes would be far too small for the upper thigh area and it would cut off the blood flow to both legs. And, of course, I was wondering which way he was wearing the hoodie: 'face hole' (so to speak) facing forward or backwards? I mean, is there a 'right' way to wear a hoodie upside down like that?

So you folks go ahead and think I am a little strange 'cause in a world where THAT 1) happened and 2) was on TV during some type of interview show, I think I am the closest thing to well grounded that may actually exist. Well, me and Kirby of course.

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2013, 03:09:46 PM »
Hey, you are getting the filtered version- I get the raw feed straight from the voices....

A few weeks ago, I saw a gentleman being interviewed on some TV show or other (not actively watching it at the time, just happened along at exactly the wrong moment) and he was talking about his testicular sac (his words) had swollen until it weighed 132 lbs. That is the truth. Now here comes the unusual part (you knew there had to be an unusual part, right?): he was having difficulty or could no longer do the following: walk, sit, ride in a car, stand, etc. etc. ad nauseum WHEN SUDDENLY he conjured up a solution: he put a 'hoodie' on upside down and put.... that heavy thing in the head pocket. While I applaud the gentleman for ingenuity and making use of the tools at hand, I cannot help but wonder how he can do such a thing because I would think the arm- holes would be far too small for the upper thigh area and it would cut off the blood flow to both legs. And, of course, I was wondering which way he was wearing the hoodie: 'face hole' (so to speak) facing forward or backwards? I mean, is there a 'right' way to wear a hoodie upside down like that?

So you folks go ahead and think I am a little strange 'cause in a world where THAT 1) happened and 2) was on TV during some type of interview show, I think I am the closest thing to well grounded that may actually exist. Well, me and Kirby of course.

Brian

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2013, 03:19:55 PM »
Yeah, you think that is funny? Check this out: http://abcnews.go.com/Health/man-surgery-134-pound-scrotum/story?id=19091787

And to finish the story, apparently he puts the hoodie on with the face hole facing forward, and rests his.... stuff.... on a milk crate when sitting down.

Besides all that, exactly how does one weigh.... that? Just step up on my scale sir ain't gonna' work. Did they put a force gauge on the strings of his hoodie and pull until he screamed, at which point the gauge said 134 lb.f.? What did the surgeon say that evening when his / her spouse asked 'Anything new at work today?' So many questions, so little time....

And you people think I am a little 'off'. Sure.

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2013, 05:04:41 PM »
If the cam chain stops rattling after a few seconds you have oil pressure.
Change the pressure switch.

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2013, 05:13:45 PM »
If the cam chain stops rattling after a few seconds you have oil pressure.
Change the pressure switch.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2013, 05:47:39 PM »
Brian, you need to finish those meds that you're on..  I really think that will help.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2013, 11:54:19 PM »
Wheel barrows hold beer bellies.

This guy's would prob need risers.

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2013, 02:25:06 PM »
Brian, you need to finish those meds that you're on..  I really think that will help.

My theory is: he quit too soon.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2013, 09:07:54 PM »
I have a 2011 Concours 14.  I notice that after changing the oil it seems to take a long time for the low oil pressure light to go out.  I see the same behavior on the Ninja 1000.  On my other motorcycles after the oil change the low oil pressure goes out in about 10 seconds.  I have not measure it but on the Kawi's it seems to take over a minute.  I think this is too long for oil pressure to come up.  After the first start it behaves normally.  I am using Kawi filters and Castrol MC oil 10W-40

Is anyone else seeing this?

I have Googled it and there seems to be a number of post showing this is a common Kawi problem with complaints on the ZX12, ZX10, ZX636, etc.

I have a 2011 C14 and had a 2011 N1k and have a 2012 N1k and the oil light goes out within a second or two after an oil change. I don't let it drain for an extended period. I'm guessing you do and the oil pump takes awhile to prime when dry.
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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2013, 05:08:15 AM »
could crank it and hit the kill switch as soon as it starts, do that a few times. thats what i do after the filter change,  my light is on a second or two after the few short cranks.
i have heard of cracking the filter after starting to purge air on a kawi from a motorcycle mechanic.

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Re: Oil pressure light after oil change
« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2013, 05:31:25 AM »
I've owned Kawis since 1995 and haven't done that once.  Never had any issues with the oil pressure or filters.  Have you tried that on a modern Kawi with a spin on filter or any kind of filter for that matter?  If not, I'd like to see that video...... :popcorn: ;)
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