Dropped Bike

[maxtog]

Maybe it's just me, then. But my KLR jumps when I engage the starter, regardless of gear position, and regardless of clutch position...my C14 jumps...the Rocket III that I had would jump...the Busa I had would jump. This is a very common trait in my experience (riding since 1970), but like I say...maybe it's just me.

Maybe so, since NONE of my bikes ever jumped/moved when started.  The C14 is my third different bike over 13 years (EX, ZRX, C14).

Edit: after further thought, maybe all my "jumping" happens when my bikes are parked with 1st gear engaged- not in neutral.

I never leave the bike in gear, except when on a ferry.  And when I put it in neutral and start it, it doesn't jump/move then, either.

[pistole]

- check your kickstand switch.

- no matter whether you were in-gear , or whatever , it should not have started with the kickstand down if it wasn't neutral at the box.

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[x9rider]

Mine will sometimes jump as well. grab some brake before you start it to eliminate the problem. I also am going to be checking my clutch adjustment as well to make sure it is correctly adjusted, but it seems ok.

[VirginiaJim]

Clutch adjustment?  Where do you adjust the clutch?

[Rhino]

My DR650 requires the clutch in to start so I am in the habit of always on the bike holding in the clutch to start. When the bike is cold, it does want to move when in neutral when I let the clutch out. But only with a cold start on a cold day. 

[x9rider]

Clutch adjustment?  Where do you adjust the clutch?

There's no clutch adjustment? I haven't had time to look yet or consult the manual. I know it's hydraulic. I'm too used to cable adjustments I guess.

[VirginiaJim]

Nope, nada, none....    You may be able to fiddle with the lever a bit, but that's about it.

[clogan]

Maybe it's just me, then. But my KLR jumps when I engage the starter, regardless of gear position, and regardless of clutch position...my C14 jumps...the Rocket III that I had would jump...the Busa I had would jump. This is a very common trait in my experience (riding since 1970), but like I say...maybe it's just me.

Anybody else out there have a bike that "jumps" forward slightly (or sometimes more than slightly) when you hit the starter? Perhaps it's the oil I'm using - Suzuki brand 10w40 motorcycle oil. Perhaps it's something else I'm doing. Silverdammit is a pretty smart guy, so when he says it's just not possible, I've gotta pay attention. But then again, in my experience, it's not only possible, it's the norm.

Edit: after further thought, maybe all my "jumping" happens when my bikes are parked with 1st gear engaged- not in neutral. I need to do some more checking and report back. Like I say, Silverdamit is a pretty smart guy, so it's gotta be something I'm doing (or not doing).

After further review, I can confirm that both of my bikes "jump" when started, but only if they are in gear when the starter button is pushed. So, Silverdammit, above, is absolutely correct. I've been parking my bikes in 1st gear for so long now, that I mistakenly thought they jumped regardless of gear position. Nope: no gear, no jump.

[Son of Pappy]

 

[Scaffolder]

- check your kickstand switch.

- no matter whether you were in-gear , or whatever , it should not have started with the kickstand down if it wasn't neutral at the box.

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+1
My 2010 had a kickstand shut off switch that wasn't working. It was an easy fix. At the base of my kickstand the switch wasn't properly attached to the kickstand. I bent it out and on to the kickstand. Has worked ever since. My bikes are always in neutral when not in use.

[SVonhof]

When I rode in to work the other day, I had the bike in the driveway as I was getting ready and I always get all geared up before starting so I can roll out quickly instead of letting it idle very long and pissing off any sleeping neighbors (I leave for work at 5am).

The first time I rolled my new Concours onto the driveway, I didn't put it in first and she rolled forward and fell over as the kickstand folded underneath so I always engage first before getting off the bike and finishing gearing up (I have to get on the bike to get it out of the garage).

So, anyway, back to Tuesday morning. I had the bike in first and was fully geared up, got on the bike and get it upright and put the sidestand up, pull in the clutch and hit the starter and it jumps forward (clutch lever was pulled all the way in). I went with it and rolled down the driveway and down the street as I basically idle out of the neighborhood anyway.  But this is not the first time this has happened with first gear and the clutch.

I have also had the bike in first when parked, and gotten on the bike to move it forward and first didn't fully let go even when the clutch was pulled in all the way, so it dragged so much that I couldn't push the bike forward and had to put it into neutral before moving it.

Strange? Seems like it to me. I will be asking the dealer about it when I bring it in for the cam sensor seal, front brake rotor replacement and service (glad I extended the GTPP...).

[wendel]

Clutch plates often stick together after bikes sit for a while. Then when starter is engaged, bike can often "jump" forward, regardless of gear position, or clutch engagment.

My KLR is notorious for this. It jumps at least a foot forward whenever I start it. I always have to make sure I have the rear brake depressed when starting, or it will jump right thru the garage wall.

Perhaps this affects your C14 as well.

This has happened to me. I always use the front brake. I live in a mountain area and the bike will roll when the clutch is pulled in. I have to park in gear to keep it from rolling away. I don't believe this will happen if you park in neutral. Not sure though.

[Cuda]

Most of the time I push the start button while off the bike to let it warm up ?
 It won't start if in gear ?

[JoeRau]

Not sure what to make of the several different stories here.  My '12 C14 will not jump at anytime.  I tried a few different things....
1 side stand down, in gear, clutch lever released = no crank
2 side stand up, in gear, clutch lever released = no crank
3 side stand down, neutral, clutch lever released = start with no jump
4 side stand up, neutral, clutch lever released = start with no jump
5 side stand down, in gear, clutch lever engaged = start with no jump
6 side stand up, in gear, clutch lever engaged = start with no jump

As I understand, this is how it is intended to work.

On a side note about rolling off the side stand in Neutral... I had a near disaster one day washing my C14 in the driveway.  I was standing in front of the bike, just finishing washing the windshield when the bike rolled forward- off the side stand.  I was able to bear hug the front and keep it from falling while my neighbor ran over to re-set the side stand.  Since that day I always park in gear or use the center stand. 

[freebird6]

My 08 always moves a bit on cold start up. When I first came to the forum I read about sticky clutch plates and why it moves when it has been sitting for a while.

I was taught to always pull the clutch in......so I do.

I was taught always to leave it in gear ....so I do.

I learned with this bike to pull the brake in when I start it...so I do.

It became a habit that serves me well.

[SVonhof]

Not sure what to make of the several different stories here.  My '12 C14 will not jump at anytime.  I tried a few different things....
1 side stand down, in gear, clutch released = no crank
2 side stand up, in gear, clutch released = no crank
3 side stand down, neutral, clutch released = start with no jump
4 side stand up, neutral, clutch released = start with no jump
5 side stand down, in gear, clutch engaged = start with no jump
6 side stand up, in gear, clutch engaged = start with no jump

As I understand, this is how it is intended to work.

On a side note about rolling off the side stand in Neutral... I had a near disaster one day washing my C14 in the driveway.  I was standing in front of the bike, just finishing washing the windshield when the bike rolled forward- off the side stand.  I was able to bear hug the front and keep it from falling while my neighbor ran over to re-set the side stand.  Since that day I always park in gear or use the center stand. 

I think you have engaged and released backward here. If you have the bike in gear and the clutch is engaged (meaning you have not touched the lever) and you try to start it it should either not start at all or the started will be pushing you forward since the gears are turning.

Mind you, when I put my story up about the bike being in gear and the clutch released (so it slips) and the bike lurched forward, this is not a common thing for me but does happen sometimes.

[JoeRau]

I think you have engaged and released backward here. If you have the bike in gear and the clutch is engaged (meaning you have not touched the lever) and you try to start it it should either not start at all or the started will be pushing you forward since the gears are turning.

Mind you, when I put my story up about the bike being in gear and the clutch released (so it slips) and the bike lurched forward, this is not a common thing for me but does happen sometimes.

I should have said clutch lever engaged, rather than the clutch...