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Insturment cluster reflash......
« on: May 19, 2013, 10:45:21 PM »
Wouldn't it be great if someone would come up with a reflash for our clusters that would enable some useful info such as actual temp, more than just one piece of data displayed at a time etc etc.....

I'd pay some decent coin for this if it ever happens.

I have to say that 6 segment temp gauge isn't very good IMO.  Why Kawasaki....WHYYYYY you no put real temp on cluster?  :o
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2013, 11:48:53 PM »
Wouldn't it be great if someone would come up with a reflash for our clusters that would enable some useful info such as actual temp, more than just one piece of data displayed at a time etc etc.....

I'd pay some decent coin for this if it ever happens.

I have to say that 6 segment temp gauge isn't very good IMO.  Why Kawasaki....WHYYYYY you no put real temp on cluster?  :o

Probably because it'd be as inaccurate as the speedometer and tire pressure sensors  ;D
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2013, 12:31:51 AM »
Probably because it'd be as inaccurate as the speedometer and tire pressure sensors  ;D

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2013, 05:52:42 AM »
Wouldn't it be great if someone would come up with a reflash for our clusters that would enable some useful info such as actual temp, more than just one piece of data displayed at a time etc etc.....

Yes.  Yes it would.

1) It is crazy we are only allowed to look at one thing at a time on a screen that huge.

2) And I *HATE* the display being taken over by "alerts"- especially low gas.

3) It would be nice if the low fuel did NOT intentionally wipe "miles remaining"

I am sure I could think of more if prodded.

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2013, 06:05:36 AM »
At least they got KiPass right  :D
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2013, 06:20:22 AM »
KIPASS is the perfect answer to the un-asked question!  ;D
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2013, 03:31:51 PM »
Yes.  Yes it would.

1) It is crazy we are only allowed to look at one thing at a time on a screen that huge.

2) And I *HATE* the display being taken over by "alerts"- especially low gas.

3) It would be nice if the low fuel did NOT intentionally wipe "miles remaining"

I am sure I could think of more if prodded.

So would I

+1 on all of those reasons.  But just this time.  I'm not going to agree with you all the time.  Not prudent.
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2013, 03:47:55 PM »
at least agree to disagree....like when reading the speed or air pressure
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2013, 03:49:37 PM »
I wish they had the altitude sensor work with the display so you could see the altitude you are driving, useful for us folks driving in the mountains, especially if you are driving in rain at 6,000' and snow level is at 9,000'.

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2013, 03:54:38 PM »
I wish they had the altitude sensor work with the display so you could see the altitude you are driving, useful for us folks driving in the mountains, especially if you are driving in rain at 6,000' and snow level is at 9,000'.

My smartphone and GPS cover that. kawi can't even get the speedo accurate!

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2013, 04:52:56 PM »
Funny you should mention that- I think I might be able to help you out with numbers 2 and 3 of your list. How about an elimination of the low fuel warning coupled with range indicator that works to the bitter end.... or at least down to 7 miles remaining and having the fuel tank take 6.04 gallons? Impossible you say? Not so- in fact I have one of dem little gizmos in my paw as I type this.... well, not in my paw actually but lying close by on the desk. But wait; order right now and I'll include shipping via a specialized motor vehicle (a white postal truck named a LLV most likely) so you don't have to come to my location and pick one! Now how much would you pay?

I'll start a new thread about this but I really do have a no tools required, plug 'n play device that silences that silly warning screen and that pesky lack of range indicator right at the very moment you actually care how much range you probably have left.

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Yes.  Yes it would.

1) It is crazy we are only allowed to look at one thing at a time on a screen that huge.

2) And I *HATE* the display being taken over by "alerts"- especially low gas.

3) It would be nice if the low fuel did NOT intentionally wipe "miles remaining"

I am sure I could think of more if prodded.

So would I
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2013, 04:56:22 PM »
This is like the old 'bait and switch'.... without the switch.

ROFLMAO

Why just last weekend there was a glass of water sitting on the table at dinnertime with not one but TWO fobs in it. The really funny part was asking the other fellow who donated his fob for dunking if he could think of any way we could know which fob belonged to which bike. Really quite amusing. By the way, we opened them up and both fobs had a bit o' water inside; I didn't tell Kirby though 'cause he just would not believe it unless he had seen it for himself and he's ascairt of water.

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2013, 05:02:32 PM »
This is like the old 'bait and switch'.... without the switch.

ROFLMAO

Why just last weekend there was a glass of water sitting on the table at dinnertime with not one but TWO fobs in it. The really funny part was asking the other fellow who donated his fob for dunking if he could think of any way we could know which fob belonged to which bike. Really quite amusing. By the way, we opened them up and both fobs had a bit o' water inside; I didn't tell Kirby though 'cause he just would not believe it unless he had seen it for himself and he's ascairt of water.

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2013, 05:11:57 PM »
Well.... it was ice water, does that count?

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2013, 05:23:33 PM »

I'll start a new thread about this but I really do have a no tools required, plug 'n play device that silences that silly warning screen and that pesky lack of range indicator right at the very moment you actually care how much range you probably have left.

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2013, 07:40:37 PM »
Well.... it was ice water, does that count?

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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2013, 10:03:18 AM »
LOW FUEL deliberately wipes the Miles Remaining.
They designed it that way because Miles Remaining is a guess or at best a guesstimate.
They have no idea how yer gonna ride for the next 30/40/50 miles.
You could be using Eco mode and riding dead smooth but a 20Mph headwind would offset all that and then some.
At 35 miles remaining you get LOW FUEL which actually means LESS THAN 35 MILES REMAINING,..... FIND GAS,.... NOW!  ;)
I personally have managed 47 miles after LOW FUEL but I put 22.2 litres into my 22 litre tank.
Since then I rarely get more than 10 miles into LOW FUEL.

What I would like to see would to have LOW FUEL not wipe the gear display.
There is no need for it take the whole damned screen!
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2013, 10:17:52 AM »
The range function is actually calculated pretty accurately but of course it is only a valid prediction for the conditions that exist at the moment. That said, it does and will change in real time as your riding type changes which is what makes it valuable, at least in my opinion. For example, let's say you have 30 miles remaining while doing 80 MPH on the highway. You know that there is fuel at 28 miles but that is really cutting it close so you slow down to 65 MPH; the range display instantly reflects this change and shows 40 or more miles of range remaining giving  you enough of a margin (in my opinion of course) to make the fuel station at 28 miles comfortably.

What is displayed and how it is displayed are personal decisions of course. I believe Kawasaki made an OK but not the best decision by deciding to remove the range function once the fuel level gets to a particular place. They simply tell you that you are low on fuel rather than predict how many miles because otherwise before very long people would be complaining about running out of fuel with 3 miles left on the range display. Believe me, I have really thought about short- sheeting that method but in the end decided to give the best available (but NOT perfect) information to the rider and that person can do whatever he or she thinks best in a given situation.

A similar thing happens with the low fuel warning taking over the entire screen- the programmer really wanted us to be unable to avoid noticing it was there.

Now, if only there were a way to suppress the warning, leave the display alone and keep the range function working..... hmmmmm.

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LOW FUEL deliberately wipes the Miles Remaining.
They designed it that way because Miles Remaining is a guess or at best a guesstimate.
They have no idea how yer gonna ride for the next 30/40/50 miles.
You could be using Eco mode and riding dead smooth but a 20Mph headwind would offset all that and then some.
At 35 miles remaining you get LOW FUEL which actually means LESS THAN 35 MILES REMAINING,..... FIND GAS,.... NOW!  ;)
I personally have managed 47 miles after LOW FUEL but I put 22.2 litres into my 22 litre tank.
Since then I rarely get more than 10 miles into LOW FUEL.

What I would like to see would to have LOW FUEL not wipe the gear display.
There is no need for it take the whole damned screen!
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2013, 10:27:34 AM »

What I would like to see would to have LOW FUEL not wipe the gear display.
There is no need for it take the whole damned screen!

Easily done. Press and hold the top button in, then press and release the bottom button, then release the top button. The red LED comes on to let you know that something is up and you have your display again.
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Re: Insturment cluster reflash......
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2013, 11:29:48 AM »
LOW FUEL deliberately wipes the Miles Remaining.

I personally have managed 47 miles after LOW FUEL but I put 22.2 litres into my 22 litre tank.
Since then I rarely get more than 10 miles into LOW FUEL.



If you run out of gas, will it start up if you simply add more fuel or does it need to have air bled out of the fuel injection lines?