Handlebar end weights - Heavy or Extra Heavy?

[Glennn]

Thanks Pistole, I'll be sure to report back my results

[pistole]

- no worries.

- hope to hear about the results of your efforts too.

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[blue14]

LOL hahaha sorry about that.  Taking the ****, like telling a blonde to make sure she checks her headlight fluid before going on a trip.

When he said to adjust the engine's counterbalancer I first thought fair shake of the sauce bottle, old son - but the subsequent replies show that he wasn't having me on 

I assume "Taking the ****" is vastly different than taking A **** which is done frequently.   Adjust balancers, shimming bar ends, heavier bar ends, tuning are all aimed at changing the harmonic vibrations you are feeling in the handlebars.  Some vibrations can make you numb in minutes, other vibrations you tolerate and have no effect on you.  You could call them "Good Vibrations".....pun intended......

[maxtog]

Because the vibration was introduced immediatly following the install of the dual two bros setup I am currently putting it down to the change of flow with the pipe not having any cats (06-07 headers).  I've got an email question into Fuel Moto USA to see if they have experience with this and if a PCV with a map to match my setup could also assist.

You replaced the header with a larger one and without cats and with dual exhaust and are still on the stock FI programming?  That is not good.

[Glennn]

You replaced the header with a larger one and without cats and with dual exhaust and are still on the stock FI programming?  That is not good.

As I am maybe finding out - though despite searching for it when I was working out what to get I was unable to find anything that said I should get a PCV or similar...

[Pokey]

As I am maybe finding out - though despite searching for it when I was working out what to get I was unable to find anything that said I should get a PCV or similar...

Has been discussed here quite much, and use your head a bit too. 

[stevewfl]

Early on I bought some Throttlemiester's throttle locks. But I didn't like them for throttle lock but still keep them on the bike because they are excellent bar end weights. I don't feel any vibration.

+1, that eliminated all vibration on mine too

[Glennn]

Has been discussed here quite much, and use your head a bit too. 

If it has I have struggled to find it in clear unambiguous terms (much like the idea that a must for the ZX14 headers is to bend the mid-pipes ) - which is always the folly of motorcycle forums, everyone has an opinion 

I don't think the bike is too off as a result of the mod, I have no surging at a steady throttle, there's no flat spots, and no backfiring beyond the typical AIS burble on decel. My 300k ride on Sunday saw as expected highway mileage and no noticeable increase in engine temps.

Anyway, FuelMotoUSA got back to me overnight and are of the opinion that "vibration is an effect of mass in motion, generally speaking we have not seen any cases where the tune affected this. It is very likely the way the current exhaust is isolating or attenuating the vibration"

They do go on to say that with my setup they would recomend a PCV with a proper map anyway, and with the price they quoted I am inclined to roll the dice.  Hell, I've got so much in this thing already what's another $330 

[VirginiaJim]

I added an Area P exhaust some time ago and wound up removing it unfortunately, as the bar vibrations increased significantly over the stocker at 3k RPM.  I was using the Throttlemiester bar ends and removed them in favor of the stock ones.  Didn't make any significant difference in the vibes.  In my situation, I can definitely tell the vibration is on the right side of the bars so it's something on that side that's causing the issue.  I'm getting ready to go over the front end so I'm going to check header nuts to see if it's related to that.  Also will be taking it in for a throttle sync in the next month or so.

[Cuda]

Thanks for the reponses, guys.

Because the vibration was introduced immediatly following the install of the dual two bros setup I am currently putting it down to the change of flow with the pipe not having any cats (06-07 headers).  I've got an email question into Fuel Moto USA to see if they have experience with this and if a PCV with a map to match my setup could also assist.

In the mean time I have ordered the heaviest weights from HVMP to give them a run around the block.

[Cuda]

Because the vibration was introduced immediatly following the install of the dual two bros setup I am currently putting it down to the change of flow with the pipe not having any cats (06-07 headers).  I've got an email question into Fuel Moto USA to see if they have experience with this and if a PCV with a map to match my setup could also assist.

In the mean time I have ordered the heaviest weights from HVMP to give them a run around the block.
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I installed a 08  ZX header 2 Bros muffs and Fugi nuts but I also used the smallest reducer (of the four) that 2 Brothers sells not sure if that means anything? also use grip puppies and wear gloves, I also have LSL handlebars not sure if that changes anything ? Gulh flash .
If I was going to get a power commander I would get the auto tune also .

[Glennn]

Thanks Jim and Cuda,

Been talking to a local bike shop, extolling the virtues of at least a PCV and custom dyno tune (different fuels and conditions here in Aus so US maps might get me part of the way there, but not all the way (not the first time I have heard that)).  Really if the exhaust is going to stay it will need it.

Do I go one last tilt at the vibration windmill?  Have to ponder for a couple of days.

[Glennn]

Small update.

I have just got back from testing the inclusion of a 2mm thick split washer on the stock bar end.

Not going to call cure, but will say improvement.  This is from repeated runs up and down a short length of highway with the washer in, washer out, washer in, washer in one side, washer in the other side etc etc.

Have almost convinced myself to get the PCV locally and have it dialled in via dyno to have a precise map for my bike and setup.  Will see what emails are waiting for me tomorrow from the garage.

[maxtog]

Have almost convinced myself to get the PCV locally and have it dialled in via dyno to have a precise map for my bike and setup.  Will see what emails are waiting for me tomorrow from the garage.

You should.  There really is no point in changing the exhaust system if you don't have the map changed, other than a fashion statement.

[gPink]

Do these mufflers make my butt look fat?

[VirginiaJim]

Yes.

[Pokey]

The stock barrel is for sure a big girl fashion statement.