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Offline sycamoredave

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Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« on: February 05, 2013, 04:29:16 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with this company?  I lost my key FOB, and this would appear to be a reasonable alternative to both get rid of the FOB nightmare, and cost much less.

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 04:43:11 AM »
Do you have at least one fob left? If you don't, you're in for a shock.

I don't know how you're figuring that this company costs less? I just looked at the prices on that link and that's not less!    :o

You can get a smaller fob for around $35 plus programming or a large fob for around $200 plus programming.
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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2013, 09:06:36 AM »
KISS is not exactly KIPASS. Nothing on their website about KIPASS.

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2013, 09:28:28 AM »
KISS is not exactly KIPASS. Nothing on their website about KIPASS.

Yeahbut, it's close no? Just take the PA away, barely any difference.    ;)
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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2013, 09:33:02 AM »
I think our friend from Florida would tell us that KISS does not have the mad pow-ah of KIPASS ;D

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2013, 09:34:15 AM »
So now I know what the PA stands for. It's KISS with mad Pow-Ah ;D

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2013, 10:18:10 AM »
Does anyone have any experience with this company?  I lost my key FOB, and this would appear to be a reasonable alternative to both get rid of the FOB nightmare, and cost much less.

Thanks- 8)
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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2013, 10:39:56 AM »
OMG, make a convoluted system even more complicated.
This system appears to put a standard key in place to work WITH KIPASS does it not?
Maybe it makes KIPASS work with a key instead of removing KIPASS altogether.

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2013, 02:37:16 PM »
I'm thinking the key has a passive RFID chip and of course the locking mech itself.  If I wanted a key operated (and underperforming) bike I'd have an FJ. 
I find that on the GS I tend to leave the key in, remember 30 minutes later, retrieve the key, finish, suit up, approach bike, stop, dig keys from inner pants pocket, cuss KIPASS for spoiling me, and then start the bike.  Lucky for me the YZ is truly keyless ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2013, 03:22:09 PM »
I'm thinking the key has a passive RFID chip and of course the locking mech itself.  If I wanted a key operated (and VERY underperforming) bike I'd have an FJ. 
I find that on the GS I tend to leave the key in, remember 30 minutes later, retrieve the key, finish, suit up, approach bike, stop, dig keys from inner pants pocket, cuss KIPASS for spoiling me, and then start the bike.  Lucky for me the YZ is truly keyless ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2013, 03:32:22 PM »
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=6976.0

May help.

No, that will not help.  That is a bypass for the KIPASS activation switch.  It will not allow you to start the bike without your active or passive FOB.  It is a workaround for the rare condition where pressing your key down doesn't have any effect.  This was supposedly fixed (or at least greatly improved) on the 2nd Gen C-14.
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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2013, 04:15:00 AM »
It sounds like nobody has dealt with this company yet.  I will reach out to them and see what I can find.  I have never liked the FOB, and if this process would end up with a real key that I could carry on a key ring, it would be a big improvement.  More to come ...

Ride safe ...  8)
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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2013, 04:17:13 AM »
      

Thats high~

My dealer is quoting about $1000 just for parts, and then several hundred more for labor.  This process is less than $500.

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2013, 04:22:46 AM »
Dealer sounds extremely high. What are you getting for $1000 in parts?

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2013, 04:30:39 AM »
Dealer sounds extremely high. What are you getting for $1000 in parts?

Dave never answered my question about having one fob left or not. Sounds to me like he lost his one and only fob. That $1,000 was the shock I was talking about.


Dave, from what I understand, you're barking up the wrong tree. You can't start the bike without at least one fob that the bike recognizes. 
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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2013, 04:36:33 AM »
No fob NO start.
New ecu--$650
New fob--$212
Labor at dealer--????


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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2013, 10:03:45 AM »
Dave never answered my question about having one fob left or not. Sounds to me like he lost his one and only fob. That $1,000 was the shock I was talking about.


Dave, from what I understand, you're barking up the wrong tree. You can't start the bike without at least one fob that the bike recognizes.

You also cannot register a new FOB without at least one fob that the ECU recognizes. Not even the dealer can do it.

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2013, 04:38:07 AM »
First of all, don't be an idiot like me, and lose your FOBs. 

Prior posts are painting the picture I have found.  At least one FOB is necessary to allow for programming of a new FOB.  The bike will not start without a FOB.  The dealer has said that if you have no FOB, you have to buy a new ECU that is programmed to a FOB.   The cost of a new ECU plus 2 FOBs is >$1000.  The labor is the cost of getting to the ECU, removal and replacement, and the programming.  From what I understand from this company's website, you send them the ECU, they pull it apart, reprogram it to match the new key, and send back the ECU plus however many keys you request.  The stated cost is less than $500, and you end up with KEYs not FOBs.  I'm still not sure what they do with the big starter key (which is still locked in the switch), or how to get into the saddle bags.  From my humble perspective, if we can figure a couple things out,  this sounds like something close to a win.  The process for getting additional keys also appears easier.

I'm going to try and call them today and see what more I can find out.  I'll let you all know what I find out over the weekend.

Ride safe... 8)
Dave

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Re: Has anyone used this company for lost C14 FOBs?
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2013, 04:43:08 AM »
Good luck Dave!

If you would have done some reading on this forum you would have known that operating your bike with only one fob is asking for BIG trouble and it looks like you found it.

How did you manage to lose two fobs?
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