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Offline usttobee50

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....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« on: September 29, 2012, 01:57:10 PM »
.....When switching to econo mode I notice an increase in engine speed, appx 100-150 rpm. When exiting econo mode there is a decrease in rpm's. It is very subtle, and more noticeable at low rpm's, say 1500 to 2000. You have to hold the switch for a second after the econo mode indicator goes off, then release it. Just wondering if this is normal?
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2012, 02:39:46 PM »
I think it's normal because the Eco mapping will probably lean the mixture, thus increasing the temperature inside the cylinder and most probably generating a slight RPM increase.
I seem to have noticed it, but I'm not using ECO for a long time now.... probably (and perhaps unconsciously...) right because of the consequent temperature  increase that could create damages in the long run.
I know it's not the case, but you never know!
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2012, 03:07:00 PM »
Quote from: ugocon on September 29, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
I think it's normal because the Eco mapping will probably lean the mixture, thus increasing the temperature inside the cylinder and most probably generating a slight RPM increase.
I seem to have noticed it, but I'm not using ECO for a long time now.... probably (and perhaps unconsciously...) right because of the consequent temperature  increase that could create damages in the long run.
I know it's not the case, but you never know!
 ;) ::)
....That sounds right, I have gotten up to 48.3 mpg on long trips with the econo mode engaged, but I didn't buy the C-14 for the fuel mileage. I bought it for the Smile mileage.....Gotta Luv It.. ;D  ;D   8)
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 03:38:32 PM »
Quote from: usttobee50 on September 29, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
...I bought it for the Smile mileage.....Gotta Luv It.. ;D  ;D   8)
:D  8)
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 08:53:46 PM »
Yes, it is normal
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 12:34:20 AM »
My econo mode on my '08 has the exact opposite reaction.  If I have any abrupt changes in RPMs I end up with an ear splitting headache and a ringing in my ears.  Borderline concusion once, she likes both wheels on the ground at all time 8)
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 01:08:14 PM »
Quote from: maxtog on September 29, 2012, 08:53:46 PM
Yes, it is normal

Practicing with a new font, Max?
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 02:17:30 PM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on September 30, 2012, 01:08:14 PM
Practicing with a new font, Max?

usttobee50 inspired me
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 03:17:58 PM »
Quote from: maxtog on September 30, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
usttobee50 inspired me

Good....We can always use a Little Color and Style in Here... 8)  ;D  :thumbs:
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 04:35:12 PM »
I hate change....
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 06:31:29 PM »
yeah but it keeps things interesting, without change life would be mundane dull and boring as ...............
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 04:29:47 AM »
I don't see your point.. ;)
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 11:32:20 AM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on September 30, 2012, 04:35:12 PM
I hate change....

I hate "hope and change".  8)
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 12:17:38 PM »
Quote from: VirginiaJim on September 30, 2012, 04:35:12 PM
I hate change....

Jim.......I hope this doesn't mean you hate to..... Change... socks and underwear....... :-\  ;D  8)
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2012, 06:52:05 PM »
Quote from: usttobee50 on October 01, 2012, 12:17:38 PM
Jim.......I hope this doesn't mean you hate to..... Change... socks and underwear....... :-\  ;D  8)
Go "Commando", the ultimate econo mode ;)
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2012, 04:02:41 AM »
Quote from: usttobee50 on October 01, 2012, 12:17:38 PM
Jim.......I hope this doesn't mean you hate to..... [/size]Change...[/font][/size] socks and underwear.......  :-\ ;D 8)

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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2012, 06:08:08 AM »
 :yikes:   Just when it was getting interesting, the thread was derailed...

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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2012, 06:21:10 AM »
Based on my experience with these things, derailment usually occurs after whatever information is requested is received.  Derailment shouldn't stop someone from posting information the OP requested.    In looking back at the post trail, it seems that the OP got the answer he requested by about post 5ish or so, after which derailment started.  Of course, this is purely subjective.
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2012, 08:33:49 AM »
Back on topic, one wonders why the idle map would be any different in eco mode.
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Re: ....Anyone Else Notice This in Econo Mode...?
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2012, 11:12:48 AM »
Long answer:The "idle map" is just he main idle screw. You should have that set to something like 1100-1250 when not in ECO mode. Then when ECO mode is activated, it leans out the a/f mixture. Which in turn causes the engine to idle at a slightly higher RPM.

Short answer: There is no such thing as an "Idle Map" on a C14. So move along. Nothing to see here.  ;D
Short answer #2: It's all magic!  :P
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