Immobilizer Error

[lather]

   How's your bike holding up?  Any more parts fall off lately? 

Thanks for asking. Other than the caps on my 12 volt receptacles falling off everything is hanging together, although not so tightly as when new.

[lather]

I always thought that was some kinda funky violin?   

Ps, maybe you need a new pet, how's about a nice rescue dog?

I've got a dog, thanks.

[VirginiaJim]

Thanks for asking. Other than the caps on my 12 volt receptacles falling off everything is hanging together, although not so tightly as when new.

Story of my life....  Glad all is well.

[aspire61]

If the fob batteries are dead the fob can't answer, but don't fret, the engineers have this covered. If the fob batteries are dead you can pull the lil flat key out from the back of the fob and hold the fob against the top of the key area on the bike's ignition, there's a flat 'boss' area for this. Now with the fob being so close the bike can 'see' it and this allows the ignition to be turned on. 

Capish?

Thx Conrad. i think i understand it now. The explanation in the manual seems vague. I question whether kipass would recognize the fob if the battery were completely dead, but as long as there's a back-up plan that works for a weak battery- thats cool.

many thx- mat

[B.D.F.]

Maybe but it absolutely IS possible to be stranded by a dead fob battery and a dose of ignorance. It seems that a lot (most?) people jump on this bike and ride off into the sunset without gaining any understanding of KiPass at all. We can argue about how that happens, who's fault it is (the owner, the dealer, Kawasaki) but in the end it is what seems to be happening pretty often. So eventually what that owner / rider does end up with a dead fob battery, he or she does not have the knowledge to go to 'Plan B' and start the bike. Why there was even a thread on the other forum where one gentleman stated how he narrowly avoided disaster and cleverly worked his way around that problem. A Genius
I tells ya'.

So while I agree with the basic idea that one cannot be stranded by a dead fob battery (as one cannot be locked INSIDE a car), it seems to happen all too often. Perhaps a sticker on the bike pointing out how to use the RFID portion of the fob is in order, sort of like the diagram instructions on how to use the tire jack is in place on most (all?) modern cars? In a better world it would never happen but in real life I think it is a valid enough problem that a little adjustment may be needed. And I think the problem is only going to get worse as more and more C-14's are purchased used and those folks get little to no instruction about the bike instead of the poor, cursory instruction some of us got when we bought them new.

Brian

It is not possible to be stranded by the active fob batteries dying.  The active fob is also a passive fob and does not require batteries to use it to start the bike when used in contact with the ignition area.

[aspire61]

Agreed Brian. i purchased the bike used and the previous owner was not even aware he could remove the kipass key for the FSS.  The owners manual is in need of a proofreading by someone with a bit of language arts training, and my city no longer has a kawasaki dealer, so this forum really is my only source.

thx guys

[B.D.F.]

There is a host of information available on KiPass on this site- probably more than you ever would want (or could choke through).

I think the biggest problem with KiPass is that it is a new and, so far, unique system that is just unfamilar to just about all first- time C-14 owners. The info. the dealer passes along ranges from very good to totally useless and the new owner really has no reason to go searching for information about the system.

I really do think a simple diagram of how to use the RFID portion of a fob might be a good idea if pasted somewhere like underneat the saddle. Of course to get under the saddle with a dead fob battery an owner would have to at least know there is a key inside of every fob.... more information that seems to be a secret all too often.

Brian

Agreed Brian. i purchased the bike used and the previous owner was not even aware he could remove the kipass key for the FSS.  The owners manual is in need of a proofreading by someone with a bit of language arts training, and my city no longer has a kawasaki dealer, so this forum really is my only source.

thx guys