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Offline Racer Boy

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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2015, 08:37:30 AM »
I've seen a Goldwing wheelie. If one of those can wheelie, I bet a C14 can do a stoppie!
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2015, 09:25:39 AM »
Quote from: B.D.F. on July 21, 2015, 10:15:42 PM
Yeah but I still want to know: can a stock C-14 be made to put a foot+ of air under the rear tire just using the front brake?

I of course do not know but again, the bike's weight makes me dubious that it can be done at all. That said, it would be most impressive to see a video of a C-14 doing a true stoppie, at least to me.

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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2015, 09:31:51 AM »
Quote from: B.D.F. on July 21, 2015, 10:15:42 PM
Yeah but I still want to know: can a stock C-14 be made to put a foot+ of air under the rear tire just using the front brake?

I of course do not know but again, the bike's weight makes me dubious that it can be done at all. That said, it would be most impressive to see a video of a C-14 doing a true stoppie, at least to me.

Brian

I bet a rider moving his weight forward with a very sticky, warm front tire on very sticky pavement can do it no problem... well maybe a problem if they over do it.
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2015, 10:59:24 AM »
Well, here's how anyway:

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And certainly these guys could do a stoppie on a C14, ABS or no:

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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2015, 11:11:20 AM »
Quote from: gggGary on July 20, 2015, 08:37:07 PM
Anyone ever mod the lever to get it closer to the grip than the adjustments allow?
OK slightly off topic but relevant to the original post.
Why? Short fingers? Extra fat grips?
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2015, 01:04:20 PM »
Quote from: Conniesaki on July 22, 2015, 10:59:24 AM
And certainly these guys could do a stoppie on a C14, ABS or no...

I wonder if anyone could do it on a Harley  :popcorn:
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2015, 03:03:16 PM »
Quote from: gggGary on July 20, 2015, 08:37:07 PM
Anyone ever mod the lever to get it closer to the grip than the adjustments allow?

Yes, that is one of the first mods I did.  I have it posted in a thread somewhere (which of course I cannot find now).  The "why" (asked later)- because I have fatter grips (puppies) and not huge hands.
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2015, 03:17:41 PM »
Quote from: maxtog on July 22, 2015, 03:03:16 PM
I have it posted in a thread somewhere (which of course I cannot find now). 

Search is your friend.  :P :P :P  ;D

http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=787.msg10850#msg10850
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2015, 04:17:48 PM »
Quote from: martin_14 on July 22, 2015, 01:04:20 PM
I wonder if anyone could do it on a Harley  :popcorn:

It actually can happen accidentally on a Harley if the playing cards in the spokes get caught.
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2015, 04:29:02 PM »
I think most Harleys have about 42° of rake. It would make a stoppie difficult at best.
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #30 on: July 22, 2015, 04:58:49 PM »
Yes. They do it fairly frequently when Hardley #4 in the left side of the pack crashes into Hardley #3 on the left side of the pack cause Hardley rider #3 almost passed a bar (pub).

Popcorn back at cha'.

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Quote from: martin_14 on July 22, 2015, 01:04:20 PM
I wonder if anyone could do it on a Harley  :popcorn:
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #31 on: July 22, 2015, 06:14:47 PM »
Yeah, my hands aren't large.  I think the lever is a bit far from the grip for optimum finger leverage. Bike still has OE front brake lines.
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2015, 09:14:42 PM »
Quote from: martin_14 on July 22, 2015, 01:04:20 PM
I wonder if anyone could do it on a Harley  :popcorn:

Why certainly!

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Also ... you didn't say there couldn't be another rider on the front fender dragging his helmet, so:

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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2015, 12:42:31 AM »
Quote from: fartymarty on July 22, 2015, 03:17:41 PM
Search is your friend.  :P :P :P  ;D

Yeah, I USED to say that... sometimes it is the enemy (when it doesn't cooperate).

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http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=787.msg10850#msg10850

I bow to your ninja searching skills  :hail:

Damn, I posted a LOT of info about it!
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2015, 06:29:40 AM »
Quote from: Conniesaki on July 22, 2015, 09:14:42 PM
Why certainly!

Also ... you didn't say there couldn't be another rider on the front fender dragging his helmet, so:

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Lets see him take his helmet off and do it. Now, that would impress me.
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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #35 on: July 24, 2015, 05:59:45 PM »
Brian, I WAS doing the full stoppie.  Arms mostly extended, keeping the weight well back...bags and trunk in the chase truck... all front brake is the reflex for best stopping/control. 

No way the rear tire was that far off the deck, but I would guess 4-6".  Plus suspension sack.  It landed with a real BUMP. 


And yes, this is SOP's former hotrod.  It goes even better than it stops.  It really starts to work around 5000rpm.  I got one chance to open er up that week riding with the rest of the event motos.  Mostly big boxer BMWs.  A couple of rental Yamaha Teneres.  One Suzuki Bandit.  A Honda CBR500.  Haaahaaaahaaaa...We showed em all what the tail end of a C14 rapidly disappearing into the distance looked like! 

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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2015, 07:29:58 AM »
Oh, OK. I did not realize that from the original post- good to know and I have always wondered if it would work or not. Must have been warm (for better tire grip) and the  road was clean. Still, this is a LOT of bike to pivot around the front wheel with the brake and frankly, I am pretty impressed that it will do it.

Brian

Quote from: datsaxman@hotmail.com on July 24, 2015, 05:59:45 PM
Brian, I WAS doing the full stoppie.  Arms mostly extended, keeping the weight well back...bags and trunk in the chase truck... all front brake is the reflex for best stopping/control. 

No way the rear tire was that far off the deck, but I would guess 4-6".  Plus suspension sack.  It landed with a real BUMP. 

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Re: Will a non ABS connie do a stoppie?
« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2015, 01:33:38 PM »
Yeah, a LOT of bike rotating up on me.  I didn't have time to be impressed until later.
Just trying to stay upright and out of the back of that team car. 

Yes, it was essentially perfect conditions.  Clean, dry, warm.  Fairly rough pavement.
No tar snakes or heavy cracking.  Pirelli Angel GTs with 1500 miles or so.


So YES, the C14 will do a proper stoppie.  But you gotta want it pretty bad. 
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