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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: xKLR on May 17, 2011, 08:00:46 PM
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I'm wondering if more cornering clearance can be had be removing the peg feelers. Has anyone done this without scraping hard parts? Years ago I did this on my FZR, after ditching the oem muffler for something more compact. Even without the feelers the pegs were the first thing to touch down. Yamaha put a long feeler on the right side to touch down before the stock canister, and put the same length on the left side for appearances. The left side peg feeler was unneccessary from the get go. I'm curious, is this the case with the C14? I could use a little more lean angle now and then.
-RC
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I'm wondering if more cornering clearance can be had be removing the peg feelers. Has anyone done this without scraping hard parts? Years ago I did this on my FZR, after ditching the oem muffler for something more compact. Even without the feelers the pegs were the first thing to touch down. Yamaha put a long feeler on the right side to touch down before the stock canister, and put the same length on the left side for appearances. The left side peg feeler was unneccessary from the get go. I'm curious, is this the case with the C14? I could use a little more lean angle now and then.
-RC
The pegs fold - so how much more clearance do you need?
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I have taken one peg feeler clean off and I have gotten that peg to scrape a couple times since the feeler disappeared. I have yet to scrape hard parts. The lean angle on the C14 is criticized by the moto rags but I find that it has quite a bit of clearance aside from the low and wide set pegs. Here are a couple pics to give you an idea.
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/flygirl5485/IMG_1137.jpg)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/flygirl5485/IMG_1135.jpg)
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Yep, I removed mine, but not for the same reasons as you. I am not a aggressive rider in the corners. Living in east central IL we don't have to many twisties. I found they caught on my boots when taking off from a stop and it annoyed the hell out of me ;D
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The pegs fold - so how much more clearance do you need?
Another half inch or so would be nice.
-RC
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I have taken one peg feeler clean off and I have gotten that peg to scrape a couple times since the feeler disappeared. I have yet to scrape hard parts. The lean angle on the C14 is criticized by the moto rags but I find that it has quite a bit of clearance aside from the low and wide set pegs.
Stock or aftermarket cannister? I'm still running stock, but I'll swap it if it hits before the peg.
-RC
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The pegs will give you plenty of warning. My rule is if I have to lift my foot off the peg, it's time to straighten out. I did quite a bit of testing with that. Unless you race, you will be un-nerved before anything important scrapes the ground. That is even without those little feelers.
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The pegs will give you plenty of warning. My rule is if I have to lift my foot off the peg, it's time to straighten out. I did quite a bit of testing with that. Unless you race, you will be un-nerved before anything important scrapes the ground. That is even without those little feelers.
exactly .
the feelers are there to warn you .
Take em off then you be scraping the brake and shift levers before the peg hits.
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exactly .
the feelers are there to warn you .
Take em off then you be scraping the brake and shift levers before the peg hits.
I think you misunderstood me. Even without the little feelers, the pegs still contact the ground well before anything else, including brake and shifter.
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I think you misunderstood me. Even without the little feelers, the pegs still contact the ground well before anything else, including brake and shifter.
you dont usually realize it till you look down on chewed up levers.
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you dont usually realize it till you look down on chewed up levers.
Maybe if you have your shifter adjusted downward that might be possible. I haven't tried that. From stock position or higher, I have never had a problem. Now if you like to use the rear brake while making hard right turns, scraping the pedal is the least of your problems.
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I just went out and measured what's left of my feelers. At 3/8" at the innermost point on the peg, the feelers seems to be just barely keeping the tip of the pegs off the ground. There are some very minor scratches on the end of the pegs (possibly just from some loose particulates on the street). I might try to fashion a replaceable feeler set at this length on a new set of pegs if it happens to get worse. I will find out shortly now that spring seems to finally be setting in here in the northwest. ;D
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I removed mine because it scares the sheite out of me when I hear them scrape and I tend to stand the bike up with is a bad thing.
After four hard riding days in the mountains where I pushed the bike as hard as I wanted, I didn't scrape anything and had as much fun as I wanted. No chicken strips either 8)
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I took my left side peg feeler off in the first 10 seconds. Just drop the bike on it's side, and the feeler is already off for you! ;D
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exactly .
the feelers are there to warn you .
Take em off then you be scraping the brake and shift levers before the peg hits.
I haven't scraped the rear brake lever, but the shifter sock has taken a little bit of abuse do to no feeler remaining on the left side. I'm sure that if I took the time to adjust it up a hair that I wouldn't be able to lean the bike over far enough to touch it. Much farther over and I would be getting pretty close to the lower fairing or the bags.
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Stock or aftermarket cannister? I'm still running stock, but I'll swap it if it hits before the peg.
-RC
Stock exhaust that has been chopped 9 inches. There is plenty of clearance with it, the peg hits well before any hard parts. There was a thread on the other forum that showed a bike that had been leaned so far that the lower fairing was scraped. IIRC it was Fretka.
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/flygirl5485/DSCF2698.jpg)
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I worry about my shifter too. I had to adjust it downward from stock position because my feet don't operate at that angle. It did get bent slightly in a parking lot drop.
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I will find out shortly now that spring seems to finally be setting in here in the northwest. ;D
Oh ya, 70 and sunny today here in Portland!! About freakin time it stopped raining... 8)
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Oh ya, 70 and sunny today here in Portland!! About freakin time it stopped raining... 8)
I hear ya. (Tacoma) After I got done installing a PCV, I took a nice trip to the Oregon border and back. Beautiful day.
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Jeremy, what kind of tires are you running to put sooo....much faith in?
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Jeremy, what kind of tires are you running to put sooo....much faith in?
I was running PR2's front and rear, but I am using a PR2 on the front and a Shinko Raven on the rear currently. I actually like the Raven on the rear and will probably run this combo again. I have never felt that I have exceeded my tires capabilities.
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I actually like the Raven on the rear and will probably run this combo again. I have never felt that I have exceeded my tires capabilities.
Have you gone through a Raven yet, just wondering what mileage you got out of the rear. I am estimating only 3,400 miles out of the one I have on there now. >:(
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Have you gone through a Raven yet, just wondering what mileage you got out of the rear. I am estimating only 3,400 miles out of the one I have on there now. >:(
I didn't write down my exact mileage when I put it on, but I am at approximately 3700 miles. I currently have about 2 mm down the center and 3-4 on the sides from all my commuting and lack of twisty road running. I am shooting for another 1000 miles out of them, as long as I can spend the majority of the time leaning instead of slabbing it.
I will say that the wear on the Raven is much more uniform that with my PR2. The left and right sides are nearly identical. The PR2 showed a huge difference between the right and left side.
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by removing the feeler, you can improve mpg's by at least 15%.