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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: 3redzxs on September 17, 2011, 03:58:46 PM
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In the parking lot at work someone hit my 14 hard. The side stand is bent on a 90. It went down and slid a few feet with only minor scratches on body work. Then of course they just left.
The problem is the initial hit did damage to the front end. The dealer told me today it's up to 3100.00 in parts on visual inspection. they won't have time to take it apart for a few days.
Has anyone had experience with progressive ins? This will be my first claim ever at 53 years old.
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I'm confused. Your at $3100 and you think the sliders did well ???
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The sliders protected the side as they should have. It's the front end, the initial hit.
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In the parking lot at work someone hit my 14 hard. The side stand is bent on a 90. It went down and slid a few feet with only minor scratches on body work. Then of course they just left.
The problem is the initial hit did damage to the front end. The dealer told me today it's up to 3100.00 in parts on visual inspection. they won't have time to take it apart for a few days.
Has anyone had experience with progressive ins? This will be my first claim ever at 53 years old.
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Any surveillance camera's near by?
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I'm confused. Your at $3100 and you think the sliders did well ???
I have to agree. A $3100 bill sounds more like they didn't do a good enough job.
Any surveillance camera's near by?
If they do, it might still not matter. We have cameras on all our parking lots at work, but the resolution is so low, you can't really tell a damn thing :( People keep thinking "CSI" that you can "zoom in" on the recorded video. Yeesh...
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Lol... Sliders protecting the front end, point of impact. :o
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I filed a claim with Progressive about 10 years ago. They were fairly new back then and I had a very young rep. She/they lowballed me on my totalled 6 month old Blackbird by about $1000. I objected, provided web based comps and after a firm discussion with a supervisor got a fair value.
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I have to agree. A $3100 bill sounds more like they didn't do a good enough job.
If they do, it might still not matter. We have cameras on all our parking lots at work, but the resolution is so low, you can't really tell a damn thing :( People keep thinking "CSI" that you can "zoom in" on the recorded video. Yeesh...
Actually yes some parking lots have quite good cameras. As Director of Parks where I live, I have purchased cameras for our parks that can take a picture that you can read the license plate at 250-300 feet away in total darkness.
Most local businesses here have fairly nice cameras to monitor there outside areas.
And no I don't watch CSI... However I do watch House, he rides a bike ;)
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I have purchased cameras for our parks that can take a picture that you can read the license plate at 250-300 feet away in total darkness.
Ours can, too, yet more like read a plate from 1,000 feet away. But ONLY if there is a person behind it zooming in and moving every camera around constantly. To get the whole lot in view (full zoom out) so you can record everything means you can't really see anything with any detail.
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In the parking lot at work someone hit my 14 hard. The side stand is bent on a 90. It went down and slid a few feet with only minor scratches on body work. Then of course they just left.
The problem is the initial hit did damage to the front end. The dealer told me today it's up to 3100.00 in parts on visual inspection. they won't have time to take it apart for a few days.
Has anyone had experience with progressive ins? This will be my first claim ever at 53 years old.
That sucks bad! Sorry to hear, but I am glad to hear that the GSG sliders did their job. I have em but haven't tested em out. *knocks on wood*
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depending where you work cams may help a lot. other then shopping malls and the like, people for the most part follow routine weather they know it or not. your driver may show up again.
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My Beemer (1200RT) actually took a parking lot hit and run front end impact that was hard enough to bend the kickstand and tweak the front end, but I didn't discover what happened until a couple days later.
I left work and got on my bike, and it felt like it was leaning more than usual. I didn't think anything of it and hit the freeway (60 mile trek) and halfway there I stopped on the right shoulder to help a stopped biker. The bike leaned over so bad I almost dropped it. I threw the bike on the center stand, found that Harley rider had help on the way, and left. Coincidentally, I had a really bad fork seal leak that was making a mess (upper seal, paralever suspension, not the front shock).
When I got home, I could see the kickstand was bent, but there was no other apparent damage. It wasn't dropped. I assumed someone sat on it and put too much weight on the kickstand - BMW's have notoriously weak kickstands. I dropped it off at the dealer and they fixed it under warranty. Later, I noticed the right side reflector was missing off the right fork. Then I saw scuff marks on the right side of the front fender. The next time I went to work, I went to the spot where I was parked and sure enough, there was my reflector, smashed in to pieces. Someone ran in to my bike, hitting it from the front, with enough force to cause it to bend the kickstand but not enough force to knock it over. Unfortunately, the ghetto complex where our office was did not have any surveillance cameras and none of the neighboring businesses saw anything.
That (#$#$ fork seal leak was hella annoying until it was fixed.
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In the parking lot at work someone hit my 14 hard. The side stand is bent on a 90. It went down and slid a few feet with only minor scratches on body work. Then of course they just left.
The problem is the initial hit did damage to the front end. The dealer told me today it's up to 3100.00 in parts on visual inspection. they won't have time to take it apart for a few days.
Has anyone had experience with progressive ins? This will be my first claim ever at 53 years old.
3red,
thanks for the feedback on the GSG sliders. Any update about your ensurance's reaction?
As a (funny) anecdote, some years ago I had my bike parked on a corner, just before the intersection, on the right side. A big truck came wanting to turn right and knocked my bike. I was inside a building at the time, and when I came out I only found my bike on the floor, but it had a post it on it. It said:
"Dear Sir,
I'm very sorry I knocked your bike. Here is my insurance data... yalla, yalla, yalla.
Best Regards,
Mr. XX.
PS: don't worry, my truck doesn't have a scratch." :rotflmao:
I was lucky that he was a very stand up guy and only made an honest mistake. His ensurance actually got my bike like new without much hassle. :)
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... when I came out I only found my bike on the floor, but it had a post it on it. It said:
"Dear Sir,
I'm very sorry I knocked your bike. Here is my insurance data... yalla, yalla, yalla.
Best Regards,
Mr. XX.
PS: don't worry, my track doesn't have a scratch." :rotflmao:
I was lucky that he was a very stand up guy and only made an honest mistake. His ensurance actually got my bike like new without much hassle. :)
With my luck, the note would read more like this:
" Dear Sir, I'm very sorry I knocked your bike. All the witnesses probably think I'm leaving you my contact and insurance information on this note, so they won't bother to record my license plate info. Well, unfortunately for you, I'm not. Good luck."
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My bike got backed into at work, it moved it 12 inches... I noticed it as soon as I walked up to it. We have cameras everywhere, and I was able to figure out who did it when I had Security pull the footage. There wasn't any damage, but I wasn't happy she didn't leave a note, even though she got out and looked at the bike and her car.
The word got around... went to 3rd floor Executives, came down to her department... her Manager... Supervisor... she got in trouble... I was called by Supervisor and Manager, both apologized for her neglegence.
It doesn't take much for those $$$ to add up for damage done... labor and parts.
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I wonder how much a top case adds to visibility to help prevent these parking lot mishaps?
I sometimes think bikes should come with small tubes welded to the frame front and rear
that accept parking flags, or better yet a banner stretched from front to rear (mesh of course).
Sort of like diving flags that scuba divers use. They could have
a white silhouette of a motorcycle instead of a diagonal bar, or just lettering that says
"Hey! I'm parked here."
More crap I can dream up that will never get made, just like that auto lowering seat that
activates below 5 mph. ::)
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don't forget that neat Minigun for those pesky trafic jams... :cannon:
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I wonder how much a top case adds to visibility to help prevent these parking lot mishaps?
I sometimes think bikes should come with small tubes welded to the frame front and rear
that accept parking flags, or better yet a banner stretched from front to rear (mesh of course).
Sort of like diving flags that scuba divers use. They could have
a white silhouette of a motorcycle instead of a diagonal bar, or just lettering that says
"Hey! I'm parked here."
More crap I can dream up that will never get made, just like that auto lowering seat that
activates below 5 mph. ::)
don't forget that neat Minigun for those pesky trafic jams... :cannon:
And that trunk monkey.
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I haver a RED 09 with a top case and a rack on it... RED t-shirt on the windscreen to stop dash branding... still got backed into!!! :o BDC's will always be BDC's... ::)
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I haven't heard much feedback on the GSG in a long time. With the McEnterprise group buy quickly coming to an end, I have to made some decisions soon...
I really like the Top Block tipover protection, but they are expensive, hard to get, require fairing modification, must be removed before fairing can be removed (complicating maintenance), and the 2010+ versions are nowhere near as nice looking as the 2008/2009 ones.
I am still considering pairing the GSG with the McEnterprise small rear/bag bars. But would that combination be as effective as the Top Block? Has ANYONE dropped (low speed or tipover) a Concours with the GSG's installed and know if they were effective at protecting the fairings and mirrors from damage?
In addition to my analysis of the Top Guard, above, I would add that I still do not believe the Top Guard, alone, will protect the bags from a tip over (just like the GSG's won't), because the bike could rock over and smash the bags (meaning the McEnterprise small rear would still be needed).
As a final thought- the GSG's *might* be useful as a possible place to move feet to for a position change on long rides, making for an added bonus. No?
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You should also check out the B&G Adventure bars.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6763/602/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6763/602/)
http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Adventure_Bars/AB0002BK.aspx (http://www.rg-racing.com/browseType/Adventure_Bars/AB0002BK.aspx)
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I haven't heard much feedback on the GSG in a long time. With the McEnterprise group buy quickly coming to an end, I have to made some decisions soon...
I really like the Top Block tipover protection, but they are expensive, hard to get, require fairing modification, must be removed before fairing can be removed (complicating maintenance), and the 2010+ versions are nowhere near as nice looking as the 2008/2009 ones.
I am still considering pairing the GSG with the McEnterprise small rear/bag bars. But would that combination be as effective as the Top Block? Has ANYONE dropped (low speed or tipover) a Concours with the GSG's installed and know if they were effective at protecting the fairings and mirrors from damage?
In addition to my analysis of the Top Guard, above, I would add that I still do not believe the Top Guard, alone, will protect the bags from a tip over (just like the GSG's won't), because the bike could rock over and smash the bags (meaning the McEnterprise small rear would still be needed).
As a final thought- the GSG's *might* be useful as a possible place to move feet to for a position change on long rides, making for an added bonus. No?
The surest way to never drop your bike is to install some protection. That's what I did with the GSGs in front and now I'm going to be double sure by ordering the MCEs for the rear. To me, for the money, this seems to be the best combo.
I agree that with the GSGs, or the Top Blocks, only, that the bags could still take a hit. The Top Blocks look the best but are too spendy for my blood. Plus, as I said, I don't think they'll keep the bags off the ground in a real tip over.
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You should also check out the B&G Adventure bars.
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6763/602/ (http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/6763/602/)
Indeed those look MUCH better than the Mc for the front, although they still have the issue of having to be removed before the fairings can be removed. At least it looks to be "no cut". It also looks like the protection is mostly so high that it might not prevent contact in a tip over, but it is hard to tell much of anything from the few pics.
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Progressive is fairly easy to deal with. Like any insurance company, the adjuster will probably offer you about 75% of the actual value in the hopes that you will take it. Just stick to your guns and make them pay full book value (don't expect any more or less). Also, remember that you have $3000.00 in accessory coverage...
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I am still considering pairing the GSG with the McEnterprise small rear/bag bars. But would that combination be as effective as the Top Block? Has ANYONE dropped (low speed or tipover) a Concours with the GSG's installed and know if they were effective at protecting the fairings and mirrors from damage?
I am convinced that if my GSG's would have been installed when I dropped my bike in the parking lot, neither the front fairings or the mirror would have been touched. Now that they are installed, of course it won't happen again.
In addition to my analysis of the Top Guard, above, I would add that I still do not believe the Top Guard, alone, will protect the bags from a tip over (just like the GSG's won't), because the bike could rock over and smash the bags (meaning the McEnterprise small rear would still be needed).
The bags won't get "smashed" just scraped badly at the bottom. Nothing a little sandpaper and touch up paint won't fix.
As a final thought- the GSG's *might* be useful as a possible place to move feet to for a position change on long rides, making for an added bonus. No?
No. They are in way too close to be a comfortable foot rest.
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That's odd, i didnt seem to have posted a message in my quote. Anyway guess what happened last night. Yep I dropped the bike in the driveway. Damage? None to the fairings or mirror. The mirror did contact but partially folded. The side case took some scratches but relatively minor ones. The last time I dropped the bike I didnt have them and it caused a lot more damaged. The GSG end cap is pretty munched but big deal.
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That's odd, i didnt seem to have posted a message in my quote.
When quoting and editing the message, you have to pay mind to the quote start and end tags ( "[ quote ]" and "[ / quote ]" ). Not a big whoop, I just had to search for what you said :)
guess what happened last night. Yep I dropped the bike in the driveway.
Oooh, sorry to hear that. It is never a fun thing. What year bike? What happened exactly?
Damage? None to the fairings or mirror. The mirror did contact but partially folded. The side case took some scratches but relatively minor ones.
That sounds promising but also disappointing that the mirror did contact. So you are saying the only contact points were the GSG, the rear "bag" and the mirror? I assume it did NOT cantilever over (pivot over the GSG) in order to make contact with the mirror, right? Or could you tell?
The last time I dropped the bike I didnt have them and it caused a lot more damaged.
Had you repaired the damage from the previous fall(s)? Just wondering if there might have been other damage that was hidden by previous damage.
The GSG end cap is pretty munched but big deal.
Yeah, easily replaceable and not too expensive (looks like $60)
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When quoting and editing the message, you have to pay mind to the quote start and end tags ( "[ quote ]" and "[ / quote ]" ). Not a big whoop, I just had to search for what you said :)
Oooh, sorry to hear that. It is never a fun thing. What year bike? What happened exactly?
That sounds promising but also disappointing that the mirror did contact. So you are saying the only contact points were the GSG, the rear "bag" and the mirror? I assume it did NOT cantilever over (pivot over the GSG) in order to make contact with the mirror, right? Or could you tell?
Had you repaired the damage from the previous fall(s)? Just wondering if there might have been other damage that was hidden by previous damage.
Yeah, easily replaceable and not too expensive (looks like $60)
I'm going to have to do a slight retraction of my previous post now I've had time to go over the bike more carefully. Damage was:
1. Minor scrapes to the front lower fairing. Nowhere as bad as the previous drop but still there was contact.
2. Mirror lower edge paint ground off like last time. I'm pretty sure the bike didn't cantilever over but not 100%.
3. Peg feeler broke off at the peg mount. Need a new peg if I want to fix that.
4. No apparent contact with the shifter. The last drop bent it.
5. Can't tell if it contacted the swing arm drive pivot point as it was munched last time.
Bike is a blue 2010. I still have the colorrite touch up pens from last time. A little kerosene, fine sandpaper for the deep scratches and the touch up pens do a great job. The "base" color is a perfect match for the black portion of the lower fairing.
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Sorry to hear about the drop T, how did you manage that?
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Combination of a steep driveway and attempting to do a walking tight maneuver. I lost my footing and down it went.
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Sounds to me when you factor in the cost of the GSG and the damage that still occurred, you are better off with the top block or MC bars. I remember years ago there was a group buy going on for them. I almost bought them. I would be highly disappointed if my bike received that much damage from the type of drop you had and I had crash protection installed on the bike. I plan on practicing on a marked Police Course in Ocala and do not want to worry about protecting the bike. The body panels in front can be removed without removing the bars with a little modification to the panels that can not be seen on re-assembly.
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I concur and was hoping someone with an 08/09 would have stepped up for development of the new Canyon's by MCEnterprises but that did not work out. Now I am in the place of deciding between looks and partial protection(GSG), less than stellar looks but great protection(bathroom bars), or an arm and a leg for the Top Blocks when I can afford them. Looking like I may wait for MCEnterprises project being developed for the 09 model after reading these type of posts.
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My rear MCE bars came today. I'll get 'em installed soon and take some pics to show how, or not, the front GSGs and the rear MCEs work together.
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My rear MCE bars came today. I'll get 'em installed soon and take some pics to show how, or not, the front GSGs and the rear MCEs work together.
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