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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: mikeeitup on March 08, 2016, 02:08:48 PM
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Hey guys. I have done the flyectomy, added a PCV with auto tune, gutted the cats and have a delkvic shorty slip-on on the bike now for over a year. For giggles, I took the slip-on off and the bike sounds amazing. I think it's too quiet with the slip-on and would like to straight pipe it. I wonder if I should try and gut the delkvic and see if it sounds good, buy a downward dump pipe right after the cats and have it be a super short exhaust or try and build something to the same length as the slip-on. What are your thoughts? I am set on making the bike louder as I want to be heard and not run over. If anybody has done this I would love to see a picture of your exhaust setup! Thanks!
Mike
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I'm sitting this one out!
:popcorn:
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Not for me but would love to see and hear it. 8)
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Will post a video once it's done just gotta figure out my method of madness. I wanna see if I can buy a downward dump pipe and attach that where the muffler begins on the pipe. It might look weird but it'll keep the drone outta my ears and all the sweet sounds where I want them.
Mike
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Believe it or not, downward dump on my V-Twins was louder than out to the side.
I bet it does sound good, and it might be fun to raise hell on local roads, but for long distances it may be a bit much. I have straight pipes on 2 of my bikes, the local hooligan ones.
What the hell, try it, you may like it!
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What are your thoughts? I am set on making the bike louder as I want to be heard and not run over.
There are numerous issues with either no muffler or an inappropriate muffler:
1) It breaks Federal law of tampering with the muffler
2) It breaks numerous sound ordinances
3) It will not pass any properly performed State vehicle inspection
4) It could (and should) lead to getting tickets
5) It is freaking annoying to everyone around
6) It gives a bad image to motorcycles and for motorcyclists
7) It does almost NOTHING for safety (nor performance)
If you want to increase safety, drive defensively and add additional running lights (white or yellow on front, yellow for sides, red on back) as widely separated as possible.
Additional information: http://www.noiseoff.org/pipes/ (http://www.noiseoff.org/pipes/)
Obligatory funny link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_%28South_Park%29 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_F_Word_%28South_Park%29) (would link to the episode, but, unfortunately, they removed all the video and went to just "select" episodes on freaking Hulu, now there is just a snippett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGyKBFCd_u4) )
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And...
It may end up running worse.
If you're cats are gone, and you gut the Delk, there wouldn't be much back pressure...
and some back pressure's a good thing!
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1) It breaks Federal law of tampering with the muffler
2) It breaks numerous sound ordinances
Arrrrrr, sounds like a feature ta me... (http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/msg/emoticons/pirate_2.gif)
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Everything Max and C14 mentioned is absolutely true. And a performance loss is certain. But..... worse things have been done by better men. This is right up there with launching bottle rockets while gripping them with your butt cheeks. I'm not gonna try it but I think you should. Please be sure to make a video...
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Everything Max and C14 mentioned is absolutely true. And a performance loss is certain. But..... worse things have been done by better men. This is right up there with launching bottle rockets while gripping them with your butt cheeks. I'm not gonna try it but I think you should. Please be sure to make a video...
Lol...
Remember that old commercial?
"I'm NOT gonna try it..."
I'm NOT gonna try it..."
"I know! Let's get Mikee!!"
"Yeah! He'll try it! He tries EVERYTHING!"
;D
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On a more serious note... :o
What year is your bike, Mikeeitup?
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There is no motorcycle inspection for me and where I am a loud bike is expected. My buddy got hit and the guy said, "I just didn't hear you" didn't even look just expected to hear. CRAZY! I am gonna get it tuned properly once I get it done so I don't expect any loss with a proper tune. I am gonna take the muffler off the slip-on pipe it came with and then put a turndown pipe therefore keeping the full length of pipe and most of the pressure so I don't toast my valves on the way to the tuner. This will enable me to switch between setups for longer trips. As far as annoying everyone, about 60% of the 300+ member group I ride with already has a loud/ straight pipe setup and that includes members of local law enforcement. I'm pretty covered. As I said, wasn't looking for noise opinion but rather insight into going about it.
Mike
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On a more serious note... :o
What year is your bike, Mikeeitup?
2012.
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And... It may end up running worse.
Indeed it might. The injection system is designed with certain exhaust system in mind. This is ESPECIALLY true for programmed (mapped) injection systems, such as that used on the C14.
If you're cats are gone, and you gut the Delk, there wouldn't be much back pressure...
and some back pressure's a good thing!
And yet, we have also seen through other topics on the forum that neither the cats nor the muffler create much restriction at all.... and their removal doesn't really improve performance in any meaningful way. The stock exhaust system is balanced with the stock intake system (headers, throttle bodies, air intake, filter box, etc) so unless all that is changed too, it is like taking a 1" water hose that is connected to a faucet, then connecting that hose to a 2" hose, and suddenly expecting more water to flow.... not going to happen.
What you end up with is just loud, annoying, and illegal. I mean, if you are going to go through all the effort and possible expense to be all three, it would maybe make SOME sense if it would least amount to something productive.... :)
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Might I suggested contacting both members BDF and Steve in Sunny Florida for the correct tuning method for this custom application.
:-X :P ??? :o 8)
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My buddy got hit and the guy said, "I just didn't hear you" didn't even look just expected to hear.
How much can people hear inside a modern car with a stereo blasting? Not much. And where does the sound emit from a bike? Behind it- not to the side, and not to the front. And even if a car can hear something, that doesn't mean they know what it is or where it is. And if it is a sudden, very loud noise, that can just stun people who then do stupid stuff in reaction to it.
As far as annoying everyone, about 60% of the 300+ member group I ride with already has a loud/ straight pipe setup
So then it really isn't about a false sense of safety, either... it is just peer pressure. If it were me, I would worry less about what other people in the group think and more about the thousands of innocent people that have to put up with the noise on each trip. (As you might guess, I am particularly incensed by unnecessary noise pollution... nothing against you, personally. I also admit I am probably far less tolerant about such things than most people).
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Might I suggested contacting both members BDF and Steve in Sunny Florida for the correct tuning method for this custom application. :-X :P ??? :o 8)
OMG, you are just being evil...
I think the emoji you were looking for is:
:stirpot:
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How about an old Kerker megaphone....classic Kaw.
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How about an old Kerker megaphone....classic Kaw.
Thought about it but I want the raw sound. Decision made, parts ordered. Gonna be a bit 'cause I gotta paint the new parts to match the rest of the exhaust and then I'll make a video.... If I can be patient enough....
Mike
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2012.
So, guessing you didn't suffer ill effects when you pulled the flies concerning KTRC?
I keep hearing both ways, and was curious.
Thanks...
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Might I suggested contacting both members BDF and Steve in Sunny Florida for the correct tuning method for this custom application.
:-X :P ??? :o 8)
I've already locked that thread..
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So, guessing you didn't suffer ill effects when you pulled the flies concerning KTRC?
I keep hearing both ways, and was curious.
Thanks...
No suffering. Mind you I immediately plugged in a PCV and autotune so I don't know if that could have counteracted any weird changes.
Mike
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Thought about it but I want the raw sound. Decision made, parts ordered. Gonna be a bit 'cause I gotta paint the new parts to match the rest of the exhaust and then I'll make a video.... If I can be patient enough....
Mike
:thumbs: I'm interested in hearing what it sounds like. How about a couple of drag strip launches too?
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How much can people hear inside a modern car with a stereo blasting? Not much. And where does the sound emit from a bike? Behind it- not to the side, and not to the front. And even if a car can hear something, that doesn't mean they know what it is or where it is. And if it is a sudden, very loud noise, that can just stun people who then do stupid stuff in reaction to it.
So then it really isn't about a false sense of safety, either... it is just peer pressure. If it were me, I would worry less about what other people in the group think and more about the thousands of innocent people that have to put up with the noise on each trip. (As you might guess, I am particularly incensed by unnecessary noise pollution... nothing against you, personally. I also admit I am probably far less tolerant about such things than most people).
At least the people on the road with him will be able to hear where he's been.... ::)
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Might I suggested contacting both members BDF and Steve in Sunny Florida for the correct tuning method for this custom application.
:-X :P ??? :o 8)
:rotflmao: :thumbs: Steve
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kept saying "don't respond... don't respond....."
but here,
I find obnoxious abuse of my ears, by someone intent on saying "look at me.... I'm cool... I'm loud.... if you don't like it, cramm it" as an insult to eerything I fight for in this world, trying to make people understand that because I ride 2 wheels, I'm not an azzhat....
good job, when you can't ride your bike into certain communities, or residential districts, because of like thinking minds, thank yourself, and the other 300+ friends of yours for that...
in closing, can't wait to read this newspaper article...
"bike rider with loud mufflers who expected everyone to "hear him" as a safety feature, killed by 90 yr old blue haired lady driving a Lincoln towncar... her reasoning? I couldn't hear him, no, I freaking deaf.."
ride safe, and stay away from deaf people.. they don't advertise they are deaf, but they are allowed to drive.
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:)
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kept saying "don't respond... don't respond....."
It didn't work for me. Besides, we had to entertain Jimmymac while he was munching.
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A rider with a stock motorcycle can be more of an azzhat than one with open pipes. I depends purely on the operator. And if some azzhat in a car is listening to their radio at deafening levels, shouldn't THEY be the ones drawing your ire? They are a danger to everyone around them, whereas the bike with loud pipes is merely an annoyance.And I find a bike zipping past me with loud pipes FAR less annoying than some azzhat in the left lane not passing anyone.
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A rider with a stock motorcycle can be more of an azzhat than one with open pipes.
Only on the road. But to the THOUSANDS of people they pass that work and live within range of the road, the stock motorcycle poses no annoyance at all.
And if some azzhat in a car is listening to their radio at deafening levels, shouldn't THEY be the ones drawing your ire? They are a danger to everyone around them,
Again, ONLY ON THE ROAD. A car with a stock stereo, loud, and windows up are not annoying the THOUSANDS of people they pass during their trips. Of course when they cross the line and install those S****Y subwoofers and amps and blast a 1/2" mile radius around them, yes, they draw my ire too.
whereas the bike with loud pipes is merely an annoyance.
No. A loud motorcyclist is likely wearing earplugs and helmet, or is already deaf. He is more of a threat on the road because he not only can't hear (like the person in the car with the windows up and loud stereo) but also is blasting OTHER PEOPLE too- those in cars that are NOT well insulated, and/or NOT with windows up and/or are NOT listening to loud music. At least it is rare to see a motorcyclist messing with a damn phone while driving.
And I find a bike zipping past me with loud pipes FAR less annoying than some azzhat in the left lane not passing anyone.
I find LOTS of things annoying. But comparing one unnecessary annoyance to another is futile. When I am trying to enjoy reading or resting or listening to light music in my CLOSED house and some asshole on an open-pipe vehicle disturbs MY space, and from blocks or even a mile away, it is infuriating and unacceptable. Add to that F'ing dog owners who allow their dogs to bark outside, F'ing boombox cars, F'ing leafblowers, F'ing car alarms, F'ing car horns, and it makes for a lot of unnecessary and unreasonable noise. It never ceases to amaze me how inconsiderate, self-centered, unsympathetic, and non-empathetic some people are.
I need to move out of the city!!!
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I will make it a point to stay off of your lawn. ;D
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No. A loud motorcyclist is likely wearing earplugs and helmet, or is already deaf. He is more of a threat on the road because he not only can't hear (like the person in the car with the windows up and loud stereo) but also is blasting OTHER PEOPLE too- those in cars that are NOT well insulated, and/or NOT with windows up and/or are NOT listening to loud music. At least it is rare to see a motorcyclist messing with a damn phone while driving.
I wear earplugs, helmet and am somewhat hearing impaired in one ear. I can still see, however.
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I wear earplugs, helmet and am somewhat hearing impaired in one ear. I can still see, however.
I always wear earplugs (earphones actually... same thing, just with options) under my helmet on the bike. Silence is golden (although it really isn't silence, and I can still hear emergency vehicles). I can see, as long as it is not night, because then I am just blinded by all the poorly adjusted, modified, and/or dirty headlights :(
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nah, living on a populated state route, I just say 12 ga, 00buck, and sit and wait for the 30 seconds the dupa is roaring before getting to your house.. then, blammo.
I get really tired of hearing the same old crap, loud pipes save lives... bullshirt... its just about you, and you don't mean squat in the big picture... enjoy the fine, keep it up, make all bike riders look like azzholes, and further restrict our given rights to ride freely where ever we want to, because you want to make noise, which most people find offending..
soapbox done...
have a nice day.
;)
I can't ride my quiet C14 to visit my inlaws, or my daughter, in hilton head, living in a community restricting m/c access totally based on a- holes with loud pipes, doing the brapppp brappppp fag thing. enough.
N.J. Stat. § 39:3-70 (2013)
§ 39:3-70. Mufflers
Every motor vehicle having a combustion motor shall at all times be equipped with a muffler in good working order and in constant operation to prevent excessive or unusual noise and no person shall use a muffler cut-out, bypass, or similar device upon a motor vehicle on a highway.
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Yeah, that's right about Hilton Head. Haven't been down there in years but I remember the thing about MCs on the Plantations. We had a time share down there at one time.
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Only on the road. But to the THOUSANDS of people they pass that work and live within range of the road, the stock motorcycle poses no annoyance at all.
Again, ONLY ON THE ROAD. A car with a stock stereo, loud, and windows up are not annoying the THOUSANDS of people they pass during their trips. Of course when they cross the line and install those S****Y subwoofers and amps and blast a 1/2" mile radius around them, yes, they draw my ire too.
No. A loud motorcyclist is likely wearing earplugs and helmet, or is already deaf. He is more of a threat on the road because he not only can't hear (like the person in the car with the windows up and loud stereo) but also is blasting OTHER PEOPLE too- those in cars that are NOT well insulated, and/or NOT with windows up and/or are NOT listening to loud music. At least it is rare to see a motorcyclist messing with a damn phone while driving.
I find LOTS of things annoying. But comparing one unnecessary annoyance to another is futile. When I am trying to enjoy reading or resting or listening to light music in my CLOSED house and some asshole on an open-pipe vehicle disturbs MY space, and from blocks or even a mile away, it is infuriating and unacceptable. Add to that F'ing dog owners who allow their dogs to bark outside, F'ing boombox cars, F'ing leafblowers, F'ing car alarms, F'ing car horns, and it makes for a lot of unnecessary and unreasonable noise. It never ceases to amaze me how inconsiderate, self-centered, unsympathetic, and non-empathetic some people are.
I need to move out of the city!!!
Here Max, have a Snickers. :)
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Here Max, have a Snickers. :)
Get off my lawn!! But gimmie that...
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I never expected that one South Park episode to relate to a C14 rider.
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I never expected that one South Park episode to relate to a C14 rider.
+1
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Yeah, that's right about Hilton Head. Haven't been down there in years but I remember the thing about MCs on the Plantations. We had a time share down there at one time.
yep, years ago, it was only Hilton Head Plantation, when mom and dad lived there...and we were denied entrance, even tho on a totally quiet C10... then, more and more places jumped on the band wagon, Like Sea Pines and others...
we soo much wanted to ride there for vacations, but because of the restrictions could not, well, we.could, but would have to leave the bike at the entrance guard shack, and have someone drive us to and from the homes... suckedballz
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I never expected that one South Park episode to relate to a C14 rider.
Me neither
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Part received today and distributor sent me a bad part. This is gonna be sloppier than I wanted it to be.
Mike
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The good: People won't accidentally run you over
The bad: People will INTENTIONALLY run you over.
I fail to see the difference in the end result.
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The good: People won't will continue to accidentally run you over
The bad more good: People will INTENTIONALLY run you over.
Fixed that for ya!
[just kidding on using the words "good", of course]
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mmm... here we go again.
I keep driving like if I'm invisible, inaudible, non-existent... Defensive driving trumps all the lighting and noise you can think of, every time. And by personal choice and simple common sense, I loath those who think that can invade my space (visual, physical or acoustic) so they can feel better, mostly out of some deluded believe which, in most cases, utterly flattens somebody else's right to be left alone, in peace, with his life.
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On more than one occasion I have dropped out of group rides because some azzhat just had to have LOUD pipes and insisted on being at the front where everyone who followed was required to suffer. So I ask, how does this enhance our sport? It does not.
No apology for the rant.
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If you want to run loud pipes and "Ride like you stole it" then go to a local track day. Find out just how good you really are. You might be better than you thought and then again you just might be to embarrassed to tell anyone. But you'll know the truth about your state of riding skill.
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If you want to run loud pipes and "Ride like you stole it" then go to a local track day. Find out just how good you really are. You might be better than you thought and then again you just might be to embarrassed to tell anyone. But you'll know the truth about your state of riding skill.
Just a minor FYI, some tracks now have noise level restrictions.
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:doh: I was out yesterday with my wife (in the car) and we were behind someone with straight pipes. Totally obnoxious even with the windows rolled up and the radio on.
mmm... here we go again.
I keep driving like if I'm invisible, inaudible, non-existent... Defensive driving trumps all the lighting and noise you can think of, every time. And by personal choice and simple common sense, I loath those who think that can invade my space (visual, physical or acoustic) so they can feel better, mostly out of some deluded believe which, in most cases, utterly flattens somebody else's right to be left alone, in peace, with his life.
+1!
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topic straight pipe thoughts? ok here's my thought :-X
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topic straight pipe thoughts? ok here's my thought :-X
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This
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Just back from another Bike Week in Daytona. Re-confirmed: Straight pipes are totally obnoxious.
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Just back from another Bike Week in Daytona. Re-confirmed: Straight pipes are totally obnoxious.
kinda re affirms why I don't do Daytona, or Sturgis, or Thunder in The Valley , or.... any of them, anymore...
nice shirt
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+1, also don't like crowds..
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Went to Sturgis a few years ago not during bike week. Tiny little place. Can't imagine what it's like with 100,000+ bikes. I'm definitely enochlophobic, not for me.
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That's it, straight pipes and dark side for me.
Is there anything else I could that is really stupid and makes everybody think I'm an asshat? I'm all about that, apparently.
Wait, tassles and fringe for me, and an MIA flag.
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That's it, straight pipes and dark side for me.
Is there anything else I could that is really stupid and makes everybody think I'm an asshat? I'm all about that, apparently.
Wait, tassles and fringe for me, and an MIA flag.
:rotflmao: You could throw lane splitting in there. ;)
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And your choice of oils and oil filters. Do you wear chaps? That's another good one. Having an Asshat here is an asset at times.
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:rotflmao: You could throw lane splitting in there. ;)
How about riding on plugged tires?
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God God! Banish me from the Kingdom! Or should I say "Bless me Father for I have sinned" ?
The only thing on what appears to be a list of crimes against humanity that I haven't done is use a car tire on a motorcycle. And add to that list riding without a helmet. And riding with the headlight off.
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Don't get us started on high vs low beam!
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Oh, and I have used straight weight oil and a Fram filter.
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:yikes:
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Oh, and I have used straight weight oil and a Fram filter.
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That's it, straight pipes and dark side for me.
Is there anything else I could [use] that is really stupid and makes everybody think I'm an asshat? I'm all about that, apparently.
Wait, tassles and fringe for me, and an MIA flag.
What?!..no "Get Back!" whips?....sorry but without those it's only a half hearted attempt to be an asshat.
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How about riding on plugged tires?
Riding on a plugged tire makes one an asshat? That's Mr Asshat to you sir! :o ;)
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Speaking of Asshats, I miss Pokey.
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Riding on a plugged tire makes one an asshat? That's Mr Asshat to you sir! :o ;)
;D I hit all the buttons. I use Rotella oil, I ride on plugged tires, I don't wear ATGATT, in fact on hot summer days I'll wear a half helmet and a t-shirt. I had straight pipes on my Valk for about a month (but couldn't stand the loss of power not to mention the noise). Call me SIR Asshat.
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You can't be called Sir unless you swing a big sword. (easy boys)
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And your choice of oils and oil filters. Do you wear chaps? That's another good one.
Wait a minute. I wear chaps when it is cold and I am not an asshat...
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I attended those 13 step meetings many years ago, AA. Asshats Anonymous....
before
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Pirate to Power Ranger in 13 easy steps. :chugbeer:
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Pirate to Power Ranger in 13 easy steps. :chugbeer:
LOL
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+1, also don't like crowds..
Amen! My wife and I took the Concours up to Mt. Rushmore last Summer a few days AFTER Sturgis. Absolutely bliss. We saw pictures from the week before and would not have wanted to be there.
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Pirate to Power Ranger in 13 easy steps. :chugbeer:
:rotflmao:
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https://www.carthrottle.com/post/us-lawmakers-to-force-quiet-evs-to-make-noises/ (https://www.carthrottle.com/post/us-lawmakers-to-force-quiet-evs-to-make-noises/)
My simple response to you who made fun of being heard for safety. Lawmakers see that cars NEED to be heard for safety. So should bikes. So hah!
Mike
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And we all know that our lawmakers are never wrong...
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Wait until they require "ice-cream truck" bells on the electric motorcycles!
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My simple response to you who made fun of being heard for safety. Lawmakers see that cars NEED to be heard for safety. So should bikes. So hah!
This is so pedestrians can hear electric vehicles, not so other cars and houses thousands of feet away can. It doesn't need to be loud, just not completely silent. Pedestrians will have no trouble hearing any stock I.C.E. motorcycle.
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So what do the people do that cannot hear?.... you know, the people that have loud pipes... how do they hear the other people with not so loud loud pipes??
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Don't need to hear anyone else since it's all about them.
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So what do the people do that cannot hear?.... you know, the people that have loud pipes... how do they hear the other people with not so loud loud pipes??
:doh: This is your first warning. Logic will not be tolerated in this forum.
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:doh: This is your first warning. Logic will not be tolerated in this forum.
:rotflmao:
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:doh: This is your first warning. Logic will not be tolerated in this forum.
http://youtu.be/sghncnGkFAo (http://youtu.be/sghncnGkFAo)
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:doh: This is your first warning. Logic will not be tolerated in this forum.
ROFL :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
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Funny stuff...
Back in 79 I installed a Kerker exhaust on my 1100XS , lost low end power and the cops were always wanting to talk to me :o
Never did that again
When I installed a ZX14 pipe with 2 brothers cans I was ready to sell the 2 brothers till someone told me about the restrictor they sell,
bought the smallest restrictor they make (three sizes) PERFECT
She can breath , I can hear.
When I ride with a group now, I'm the last one where it's nice and mellow. :chugbeer:
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Wait a minute. I wear chaps when it is cold and I am not an asshat...
I tell people, "No, I don't ride a motorcycle...I just like wearing crotch-less leather pants."
And I AM an asshat.
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Here's the perfect universal effect sound for the EV's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwxNVnPKaPE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwxNVnPKaPE)
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I tell people, "No, I don't ride a motorcycle...I just like wearing crotch-less leather pants."
And I AM an asshat.
LOL
Well, all I know is they help keep me warm and safe and actually fit right. However, I won't walk around in them, since they *DO* look a little silly or awkward (and are easily removed/stored).
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I tell people, "No, I don't ride a motorcycle...I just like wearing crotch-less leather pants."
And I AM an asshat.
Asshats welcome! :rotflmao:
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Funny stuff...
Back in 79 I installed a Kerker exhaust on my 1100XS , lost low end power and the cops were always wanting to talk to me :o
Never did that again
When I installed a ZX14 pipe with 2 brothers cans I was ready to sell the 2 brothers till someone told me about the restrictor they sell,
bought the smallest restrictor they make (three sizes) PERFECT
She can breath , I can hear.
When I ride with a group now, I'm the last one where it's nice and mellow. :chugbeer:
Agreed...On my 2011 GTR (Connie) I fitted a Two Brothers pipe to which I bought used from another U.K forum member. It was LOUD until I fitted a restrictor/power tip which improved the sound massively ;)