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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: ZG on June 14, 2011, 07:12:23 PM
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I don't know about you guys but the oem tail light always seemed a little dim to me, especially in the daytime.
I bought one of these off ebay, $40 shipped, I'm very pleased with it. It looks better IMO and is definatly brighter! I got the "smoked" one which is just slightly tinted but you can only tell it's tinted when the bike is off. It's also available in clear and in blue...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-07-08-ZX-6R-08-11-ZG1400-Chrome-LED-Tail-Light-II-Turn-Signal-Clear-/110782008116?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19cb1f4b34 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-07-08-ZX-6R-08-11-ZG1400-Chrome-LED-Tail-Light-II-Turn-Signal-Clear-/110782008116?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19cb1f4b34)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-07-08-ZX-6R-08-11-ZG1400-Chrome-LED-Tail-Light-II-Turn-Signal-Smoke-/110782008258?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19cb1f4bc2 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-07-08-ZX-6R-08-11-ZG1400-Chrome-LED-Tail-Light-II-Turn-Signal-Smoke-/110782008258?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item19cb1f4bc2)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-07-08-ZX-6R-08-11-ZG1400-Chrome-LED-Tail-Light-II-Turn-Signal-Blue-/120817551105?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1c21498701 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Kawasaki-07-08-ZX-6R-08-11-ZG1400-Chrome-LED-Tail-Light-II-Turn-Signal-Blue-/120817551105?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item1c21498701)
REAR SHOT OFF BEFORE
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00327-20110613-1618.jpg)
REAR SHOT OFF AFTER
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00338-20110614-1737.jpg)
CLOSE UP OFF BEFORE
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00331-20110613-1624.jpg)
CLOSE UP OFF AFTER
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00332-20110614-1701-1.jpg)
TAIL LIGHT BEFORE
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00329-20110613-1620.jpg)
TAIL LIGHT AFTER
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00333-20110614-1702.jpg)
BRAKE LIGHT BEFORE
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00330-20110613-1620.jpg)
BRAKE LIGHT AFTER
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00337-20110614-1710.jpg)
So what do you guys think??
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I like it since I have extensively upgraded all rear lights on my 14....why don't you take a pic of it at night....in your garage maybe with all other lights off.....take a distance pic with a rubber band around your brake lever...and some closer pics so we can see what kind of a red hue glow around the light it puts out....the stock unit is very basic and not very impressive...
Ninja
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Looks great! Thanks for the links.
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I like it since I have extensively upgraded all rear lights on my 14....why don't you take a pic of it at night....in your garage maybe with all other lights off.....take a distance pic with a rubber band around your brake lever...and some closer pics so we can see what kind of a red hue glow around the light it puts out....the stock unit is very basic and not very impressive...
Ninja
Here you go Ninja, I just went out and closed the garage door to take these...
Tail light
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00339-20110614-1853.jpg)
Brake light
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/IMG00340-20110614-1854.jpg)
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I like it since I have extensively upgraded all rear lights on my 14....why don't you take a pic of it at night....in your garage maybe with all other lights off.....take a distance pic with a rubber band around your brake lever...and some closer pics so we can see what kind of a red hue glow around the light it puts out....the stock unit is very basic and not very impressive...
That is actually the WORST way to take a picture of a light when comparing before/after brightness. The best way is during the daytime, from a distance, at nearly the same time, with camera on same settings and distance before/after.
Night pictures tell you nothing, because ANY light is enough to cause the camera to close off and all lights are overexposed. You need enough light around the rest of the picture to normalize everything.
Need proof? Look at the pictures where he did what you requested. Notice that everything in FRONT of the bike is much brighter in the second picture, where the tail light is brighter :)
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Max,
The first pics I posted were all during the day, in the same spot, and with the same camera (my blackberry actually...). I did close up shots to show the actual lights, the oem lens I think seems to dim/wash out the lights, this new one has a clear lens.
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So what do you guys think??
I think that is really cool. And I agree that I thought the tail light/brake light was too dim OEM. It is strange that all that posting on Ebay with diagrams and pictures, and they say nothing about brightness. But theirs has 5 more LED's than the stock (another selling point they don't mention). But it also might not be brighter EXCEPT DIRECTLY BEHIND. The stock lens might work to help widen the angle of view more. In any case, it is an attractive upgrade. And a crazy-cheap price too. (Is it low quality??)
But I want more light AREA also... so I ordered the Admore light bar last (72 lamp) night. DAMN it is expensive- not sure where to mount it yet, I might have to somehow attach it to the bottom of the license plate. But I like the fast flash pattern and quick revert back to full-on. The turn signal thing is neat too, but that wasn't my primary goal.
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The quality seems good Max, it also comes with the wires already attached to integrate your blinkers into it as well but I opted not to connect those and just run the tail and brake lights...
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The quality seems good Max, it also comes with the wires already attached to integrate your blinkers into it as well but I opted not to connect those and just run the tail and brake lights...
I just can't get over how cheap it is, when I just plopped down $150 for a lightbar + s/h! That is a good idea to NOT use it for turn signals (turn signals- yet ANOTHER feature they don't mention). The stock turn signals are fine, and you don't want to give up braking visibility area to that, anyway.
But you should check out the angle brightness too, just for giggles. Might be too late now to compare directly to the stock... Well, maybe not. Just hook up the old one to the lighter adapter or something and sit it on the rack above! Then you can see (or even take pictures of) both AT THE SAME TIME in different lighting, distance, and angles. That would be the ideal setup.
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Nice find.....I might just consider that! :thumbs:
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It looks good. Does it fit in the same space as the OEM tail light? It looks to be the same shape but in the pictures it doesn't look to be an exact fit.
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Very nice, looks really bright. Congrats!
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looks good, i'll put it on the list.
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ordered...$40 I'll risk that
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It looks good. Does it fit in the same space as the OEM tail light? It looks to be the same shape but in the pictures it doesn't look to be an exact fit.
Yes X, it's an exact fit and shape as the oem one.
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ZG...
On a scale of 1 to 10 ten being the best...how does this new tail light rate in brightness when compared to the stock unit.....which seems marginal at best.
Ninja
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ZG...
On a scale of 1 to 10 ten being the best...how does this new tail light rate in brightness when compared to the stock unit.....which seems marginal at best.
Ninja
Ninja,
I would give the oem one a 5 at best and this one an 8 to 9, it's definitely an improvement over the oem one and for only $40 shipped a good spend of $ IMO, plus it looks better too IMO...
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Thank you for posting this. I was looking for Father's Day ideas, and this is perfect. It might not get there in time, but I'm pretty sure he'll like it. The dim rear light was one of the things my Dad didn't like on the C14. I just hope he didn't beat me to it lol.
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Nice find ZG!
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Nice find....Brighter is better!
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Thank you for posting this. I was looking for Father's Day ideas, and this is perfect. It might not get there in time, but I'm pretty sure he'll like it. The dim rear light was one of the things my Dad didn't like on the C14. I just hope he didn't beat me to it lol.
It took about a week and a half to receive mine from the day I purchased it, it shipped to me direct from Asia.
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I got one for my ZRX and it was great. Gonna have to check this out.
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I just won the bid on one as well, but I got mine $10 cheaper. Same seller, same item, but it was $17.98 + $9.98 shipping. Mine was a bid, not a "Buy It Now" and I was the only bidder so I won it at the starting price. I thought for sure after ZG raised awareness that someone from here would have starting a bidding war .....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220796849446 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220796849446)
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Yes X, it's an exact fit and shape as the oem one.
Thank you! I'll order one later today.
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Hopefully we don't step on each other bidding now......
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The ebay ad says that he won't ship to Canada. Can anyone suggest why?
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The ebay ad says that he won't ship to Canada. Can anyone suggest why?
Maybe he's a Bruins fan... ;)
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Maybe he's a Bruins fan... ;)
Dislikes French?
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Too cold in Canada lights don't work there....
Ninja
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Nice find.....I might just consider that! :thumbs:
Wow. I am still at the point in life where $40 is a lot of money.
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Hopefully we don't step on each other bidding now......
Wow.....already been outbid.....who did it?
8)
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Wow.....already been outbid.....who did it?
Not me... Yea, I saw the bids and didn't even bother. Maybe I will wait and try some other month. Maybe I will just forget. It is a shame he doesn't post more auction listings.
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Not me... Yea, I saw the bids and didn't even bother. Maybe I will wait and try some other month. Maybe I will just forget. It is a shame he doesn't post more auction listings.
He has "BIN" auctions going for all colors, see links below in my first post... :loco: ;)
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So it sounds like some of you are or have ordered one of these. What color did you get??
I want to see someone with a blue 2010 get one of those blue ones that are offered, if you do please post up some pics, I think that would look pretty cool. 8)
I'd also like to see some pics of the clear ones mounted too.
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/wait.gif)
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I'm trying to snipe a smoke one.....
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He has "BIN" auctions going for all colors, see links below in my first post... :loco: ;)
I see everything he is doing with a simple search. If one is interested in only one color, then there is only one auction and one BIN running at a time. If one is only interested in auction AND one color, then there is only ONE choice at a time. That is what I meant by I wish he had more listings.
He won't move as much product that way, but he will get higher prices for a lower volume.
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Is a $10 difference really that big of deal that it would keep you from buying it or not if you wanted one? ???
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Is a $10 difference really that big of deal that it would keep you from buying it or not if you wanted one? ???
IT'S THE THRILL OF THE HUNT.......
8)
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I'm trying to snipe a smoke one.....
You should get these too then Mike to swap out your blinkers at the same time... 8)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=952.msg9556#msg9556 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=952.msg9556#msg9556)
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You should get these too then Mike to swap out your blinkers at the same time... 8)
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=952.msg9556#msg9556 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=952.msg9556#msg9556)
Saw that before.....would be nice and clean.
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FYI, I have one of the clear versions on the way to me. I will take pics when I get it and do my best to compare it to the stock unit and see if I can get them both running for comparison as well.
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Is a $10 difference really that big of deal that it would keep you from buying it or not if you wanted one? ???
Just got it for $18.00!
8)
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Here is a hint. He sent me a second chance offer through Ebay for the 18.00 price after the first one outbid me. So if you are patient, you can save a bit.
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Here is a hint. He sent me a second chance offer through Ebay for the 18.00 price after the first one outbid me. So if you are patient, you can save a bit.
Good tip there. I forgot all about the fact a seller can do that. Since you were outbid, he knows you made a bid in the first place and since he has lots just sitting and ready to go, he can offer them up for the bid you put in.
BTW, I am going to try using a light meter on my phone that I downloaded to see how the brightness of the two compare when I get it. I don't know how accurate the light meter is, but it will give an approximate percentage to compare with.
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Just got it for $18.00!
8)
Beers are on you then bro! :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
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Beers are on you then bro! :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
I can afford it now!
:thumbs:
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BTW, I am going to try using a light meter on my phone that I downloaded to see how the brightness of the two compare when I get it. I don't know how accurate the light meter is, but it will give an approximate percentage to compare with.
Probably better than nothing... but as I pointed out before, it depends on the ANGLE of the light distribution. If the replacement LED's have a very narrow focus, they might indeed be much brighter, but only in a tiny "sweet spot". Something to keep in mind.
If you do try to use a meter, then you would want to compare each at night, to keep the background noise (light) constant. And you should test from exactly the same distance AND angles. Plus it would be good to test both from more than one angle.
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Probably better than nothing... but as I pointed out before, it depends on the ANGLE of the light distribution. If the replacement LED's have a very narrow focus, they might indeed be much brighter, but only in a tiny "sweet spot". Something to keep in mind.
If you do try to use a meter, then you would want to compare each at night, to keep the background noise (light) constant. And you should test from exactly the same distance AND angles. Plus it would be good to test both from more than one angle.
Already thought of all that and hope to cover it all!
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ordered...$40 I'll risk that
Got it yesterday in the mail. Quick ship in my opinion, hell it came from China! Awesome packaging too. Gonna put it on today.
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I sent an email to the ebay seller and asked him if he would be setting up any conventional auctions instead of all "Buy it Now".
He replied back and said that he would set up some regular auctions with the $18 starting bid, next month. If I can save 10 bucks then I will.
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Good move Jeremy. I'll wait a month for the ten bucks (equals 2 1/2 beers).
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I would love to get one in the blue tint. I am not an Ebay guy. Is there no other way to buy these? Do you have to remove the rear rack to install these?
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Mine arrived today. It's impressive looking. After taking a quick look around the bike, it's not obvious to me how to remove and replace it. Any help is appreciated!
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Got it yesterday in the mail. Quick ship in my opinion, hell it came from China! Awesome packaging too. Gonna put it on today.
Come on already with the pics Dawg... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/wait.gif)
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Come on already with the pics Dawg...
ZG - Not sure this comment was directed to my post and request for help. Also not sure what drawing you are referring to. I did get the install done. There is more involved than I expected. Needed to remove the ECU and rack.
Now that it's in I can say that it is really bright. I didn't notice with the stock light but this light is always on. Brighter with the break applied.
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ZG - Not sure this comment was directed to my post and request for help. Also not sure what drawing you are referring to. I did get the install done. There is more involved than I expected. Needed to remove the ECU and rack.
Now that it's in I can say that it is really bright. I didn't notice with the stock light but this light is always on. Brighter with the break applied.
My post was actually for Boonedawg, but since you just did yours... come on with the pics already! ;) ;D
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Mine will be here soon......
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Just got my new tail light today. Since I have not taken anything off the bike except the seat and the left passenger peg bracket so far, any tips? I assume I have to take some of the rear bodywork off to get to the electrical connector?
I need to get the service manual at some point soon.
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Just got my new tail light today. Since I have not taken anything off the bike except the seat and the left passenger peg bracket so far, any tips? I assume I have to take some of the rear bodywork off to get to the electrical connector?
I need to get the service manual at some point soon.
I'll admit, I love to ride but always screw things up (especially electrical) when I try to do my own work... :nuts:
I paid my local shop $50 to intall mine while I went next door and ate a samich... I'd rather just eat lunch then screw something up that ultimately results in me having to take it in anyways to fix what I jacked up, my time is precious... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)
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I'll admit, I love to ride but always screw things up (especially electrical) when I try to do my own work... :nuts:
I paid my local shop $50 to intall mine while I went next door and ate a samich... I'd rather just eat lunch then screw something up that ultimately results in me having to take it in anyways to fix what I jacked up, my time is precious... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)
Cheater.
:)
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Cheater.
:)
Wimp too!
;D
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Wimp too!
;D
;D ;D ;D
No love for being honest here eh... Ok fine, I have black gunk under all my fingernails and my knuckles are all busted up, better?? ???
I feel more manly now!! 8)
Ok, the gunk under my nails is probably from making my espresso this morning and I think the red stuff on my knuckles is some high priced no-preservative jam my wife got from Whole Foods... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/facepalm.gif)
:chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer: :chugbeer:
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I'll admit, I love to ride but always screw things up (especially electrical) when I try to do my own work... :nuts:
I paid my local shop $50 to intall mine while I went next door and ate a samich... I'd rather just eat lunch then screw something up that ultimately results in me having to take it in anyways to fix what I jacked up, my time is precious... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)
"A man's got to know his limitations."
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRfme_tq_Z4zYePaRwFxU8HTUBjY65u1kX3kCYiVGLFSrQQ5pY)
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O.K., so, if I had not decided to also at the same time, add my blinking LED's (brake only) made by StreetFX, I could have had this done in less than an hour and that's only because I have never taken the back of the bike apart. Had I done that before and been familiar, I could have had it done in about 20-25 minutes.
So, it's installed and within 2 minutes of each reading, I was able to check the stock light and the replacement light for brightness. Granted, this is a sensor on a camera and is using a program to check the lighting for taking pictures (values are in "Lux"), but it's the first one I found that looked easy to use.
Stock light, running: 40 lux
stock light, brake: 320 lux
aftermarket, running: 225 lux
aftermarket, brake: 640 lux
Ignore the white cable ties, they will be removed as they are only on there for the adhesive to set on the LED's:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/IMAG0342.jpg)
Here is how far I had to take things apart:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/IMAG0341.jpg)
Here is a quick and dirty video I took after getting everything installed:
VIDEO0006.3gp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqz12jqqMk4#)
Well worth the money (under $30 shipped or $40 shipped if you do the buy-it-now).
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O.K., so, if I had not decided to also at the same time, add my blinking LED's (brake only) made by StreetFX, I could have had this done in less than an hour and that's only because I have never taken the back of the bike apart. Had I done that before and been familiar, I could have had it done in about 20-25 minutes.
So, it's installed and within 2 minutes of each reading, I was able to check the stock light and the replacement light for brightness. Granted, this is a sensor on a camera and is using a program to check the lighting for taking pictures (values are in "Lux"), but it's the first one I found that looked easy to use.
Stock light, running: 40 lux
stock light, brake: 320 lux
aftermarket, running: 225 lux
aftermarket, brake: 640 lux
Ignore the white cable ties, they will be removed as they are only on there for the adhesive to set on the LED's:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/IMAG0342.jpg)
Here is how far I had to take things apart:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/IMAG0341.jpg)
Here is a quick and dirty video I took after getting everything installed:
VIDEO0006.3gp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqz12jqqMk4#)
Well worth the money (under $30 shipped or $40 shipped if you do the buy-it-now).
:goodpost: Thanks SV for taking the time to record that and post it up here!! :thumbs:
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The video kind of left us hanging though.......did it get mapped out? did she get left hanging? I hate cliff hanging endings...... ;D
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"A man's got to know his limitations."
(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRfme_tq_Z4zYePaRwFxU8HTUBjY65u1kX3kCYiVGLFSrQQ5pY)
:rotflmao:
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The video kind of left us hanging though.......did it get mapped out? did she get left hanging? I hate cliff hanging endings...... ;D
My wife was talking to my sister who is in another state. I don't know what the conversation was about and I didn't want to turn and tell my wife that she had to be quiet since I was going to record a video. I was hoping I could edit out the sound, but I don't know how to do that with the video type my phone takes so everyone is going to have to deal with it! ;D ;)
I forgot that I was going to check off-axis brightness. It looks like at about 45° off axis of the bike, the brightness of the brake light portion drops to about half of what it was or about the same as the stock from straight on.
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I forgot that I was going to check off-axis brightness. It looks like at about 45° off axis of the bike, the brightness of the brake light portion drops to about half of what it was or about the same as the stock from straight on.
I suspect that is a narrower "brightness" zone than the stock. But if you really think it is 45 degrees on both sides, that should be wide enough for just about any situation.
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I won't get to it tonight, but I will someday take the stock light and hook it up to power and set it on top of the rack and take pics with both of them on from straight-on, off axis and running and brake lights.
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I won't get to it tonight, but I will someday take the stock light and hook it up to power and set it on top of the rack and take pics with both of them on from straight-on, off axis and running and brake lights.
There you go! Make sure the voltage is the same.
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Alright, to those who have installed it yourself .... I need help. What needs to come off to get the original light harness to come out without cutting the plug off. And route the new plug back through to get to the harness. The black piece that houses the turn signals ..... what is holding that damn thing in?
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I didn't get mine yet.......
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Alright, to those who have installed it yourself .... I need help. What needs to come off to get the original light harness to come out without cutting the plug off. And route the new plug back through to get to the harness. The black piece that houses the turn signals ..... what is holding that damn thing in?
You have to remove the seat (obvious I know but...), the rack, the 2 screws holding the tail light housing to the cross bar and the tool box. Then move the tail light back a little and loosen the 2 screws under it (you don't need to remove them), then the cover that's under the rack will pull out towards the front of the bike. Move the ECU out of the way and you can get to the plug inside of the black rubber boot. On the right side of where the ECU sits, there is a clip that the tail light cable loops through (that's probably what is holding you up). Remove the cable from the clip and you can pull the light out. It isn't necessary to cut anything to remove the old or install the new. Hope that helps.
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I suspect that is a narrower "brightness" zone than the stock. But if you really think it is 45 degrees on both sides, that should be wide enough for just about any situation.
Actually, I did an off center walk around with the stocker and new and find the new to be much more visible from off center than the stock light. The stocker starts looking washed out where this one doesn't. Just my observation.
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Simon...are you saying the new light is a plug and play install?
Ninja
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Simon...are you saying the new light is a plug and play install?
Ninja
Pretty much. The only reason you would have to tap or splice any wires is if you want to use the turn signal functionality. If so, you would have to tap/splice the 2 additional wires into the existing turn signal wires, but the brake/tail light portion has the right plug on the end so you can just unplug the old and plug in the new. I didn't hook the turn signal wires up, but I did test them to see if they worked.
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I got mine today. The smoke is a lot darker than I thought it looked like in the pics. Maybe the flash has something to do with it.
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I got mine today. The smoke is a lot darker than I thought it looked like in the pics. Maybe the flash has something to do with it.
Mount it up and take some pics already Mike! (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/wait.gif)
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Mount it up and take some pics already Mike! (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/wait.gif)
I dunno......looks real dark.
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I dunno......looks real dark.
Darker than mine that I posted pics of?? ???
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Here it is....
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That does look darker in that pic... How about when you take it outside in sunlight??
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Inside it's dark....Ray Ban dark. I don't think I'm gonna use it. Yours looked like light smoke.
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Inside it's dark....Ray Ban dark. I don't think I'm gonna use it. Yours looked like light smoke.
Yes, mine is "light" smoke. Does he also sell a dark smoke? If so, maybe they shipped you the wrong one?? If that's the case you should contact them to ask... ???
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Yes, mine is "light" smoke. Does he also sell a dark smoke? If so, maybe they shipped you the wrong one?? If that's the case you should contact them to ask... ???
All I saw for sale was smoke. I'll try to contact him.
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I'll buy it to try it out if you don't want it. Just let me know if you would like to sell.
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I'll buy it to try it out if you don't want it. Just let me know if you would like to sell.
No prob, you have first dibs.
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I got mine on Monday and installed it on Tuesday and Mike's does look alot darker than the one I got. But with a Black bike, I wouldnt mind the dark as long as the red shows thru nice and bright.
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I got mine on Monday and installed it on Tuesday and Mike's does look alot darker than the one I got. But with a Black bike, I wouldnt mind the dark as long as the red shows thru nice and bright.
Post up some pics for us OCK of it installed!
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Inside it's dark....Ray Ban dark. I don't think I'm gonna use it. Yours looked like light smoke.
Hook it up to a 12v source Mike and see how bright it is.
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Hook it up to a 12v source Mike and see how bright it is.
It could be bright, but it's not going on my bike.
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The one posted on Ebay looks like the stock light....mine is on the way...hope it is NOT that dark colored lens attached herein...if it is...he is going to be hearing bad things from me for mis-representing the product and pic included in his ad....!
I wanted more and brighter light...not less!
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The one posted on Ebay looks like the stock light....mine is on the way...hope it is NOT that dark colored lens attached herein...if it is...he is going to be hearing bad things from me for mis-representing the product and pic included in his ad....!
I wanted more and brighter light...not less!
Here's what he sent me:
Dear n9nbn,
I think this color also looks awesome, as long as it gives dark red when
braking, red when running and amber when turning. Don't you think so? These
are really popular on ebay. We produced the kind your friend has but since
many customers asked for dark color, we producte another smoke. I hope you
agree with me. Thank you.
Thank you!
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Here it is lit up
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Here it is lit up
I think it looks good Mike, you should keep it!
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I think it looks good Mike, you should keep it!
Maybe someone with a black bike needs it......
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Are the built-in turn signals amber? I didn't even light them up to see. If they were, maybe I would hook them up.
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Ok I got mine today..it is the clear lens posted on Ebay ...NOT the darker colored lens that some members are receiving.....so am happy so far...
So far I have mine as a brake light only.....is anyone using it as a full-time running light AND a brake light too?
Anyone tied the yellow wires into the rear signal lights yet...??
How do they work?
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When the blinker is on, half of the tail light flashes amber with the turn signal; the other half stays red. I'm not using them, but I tested them to see if they worked.
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When the blinker is on, half of the tail light flashes amber with the turn signal; the other half stays red. I'm not using them, but I tested them to see if they worked.
Really?? ??? 8)
Can you post some pics of that SSD?
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Ok I got mine today..it is the clear lens posted on Ebay ...NOT the darker colored lens that some members are receiving.....so am happy so far...
So far I have mine as a brake light only.....is anyone using it as a full-time running light AND a brake light too?
Anyone tied the yellow wires into the rear signal lights yet...??
How do they work?
When you say "running light" do you mean tail light Ninja?? If so, yes mine is running the tail light and brake light...
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When the blinker is on, half of the tail light flashes amber with the turn signal; the other half stays red. I'm not using them, but I tested them to see if they worked.
It's funny how information like that is not mentioned at all on the listings. Another major feature ignored!
That said, I don't think I would ever use them for turn signals, since the stock signals are much better. Better to have maximum braking indicator, IMHO.
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So far I have mine as a brake light only.....is anyone using it as a full-time running light AND a brake light too?
That is probably required (tail lights [running lights] are extremely important), and something you don't elect to do, it is just done when you plug it in, I would assume...
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It's funny how information like that is not mentioned at all on the listings. Another major feature ignored!
That said, I don't think I would ever use them for turn signals, since the stock signals are much better. Better to have maximum braking indicator, IMHO.
Post #8 on this thread Max, I mentioned it in the beginning... :loco:
;)
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Post #8 on this thread Max, I mentioned it in the beginning... :loco:
I know *you* mentioned it. I was talking about the listings on Ebay. THEY don't mention it!!!
However, I might have commented about it already. I do tend to repeat myself sometimes. I do tend to repeat myself sometimes. I do tend to repeat myself sometimes.
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I know *you* mentioned it. I was talking about the listings on Ebay. THEY don't mention it!!!
However, I might have commented about it already. I do tend to repeat myself sometimes. I do tend to repeat myself sometimes. I do tend to repeat myself sometimes.
No worries Max, No worries Max... ;)
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Really?? ??? 8)
Can you post some pics of that SSD?
Actually I didn't take any pics of them attached. I opted not to use them because I think the stock signals are good and visible so I wanted to keep full visibility of the tail/brake light instead of losing half of it when a signal is on. I'd post the pics I did take, but I seem to be too dumb to figure out how.
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Actually I didn't take any pics of them attached. I opted not to use them because I think the stock signals are good and visible so I wanted to keep full visibility of the tail/brake light instead of losing half of it when a signal is on. I'd post the pics I did take, but I seem to be too dumb to figure out how.
Send them to me and I will post them for you.
scott at vonhofs dot com
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Per special request I am posting the pics here too.....
The first pic is the stock unit..the other two are the new LED Clear Lens...
NInja
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I need help. I installed the new rear light and it works fine. I have on the bike a "Back Off" to make the light blink 5 times when brake is applied. On the original light the back off was splice to the blue wire, the new light have a green wire instead and I went ahead and put it on this one and it do not blink. Can any one help?
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Actually I didn't take any pics of them attached. I opted not to use them because I think the stock signals are good and visible so I wanted to keep full visibility of the tail/brake light instead of losing half of it when a signal is on. I'd post the pics I did take, but I seem to be too dumb to figure out how.
Here are Simon's images:
Stock tail:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/StockTail.jpg)
New Tail:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/NewTail.jpg)
Stock brake:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/StockBrake.jpg)
New brake:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/NewBrake.jpg)
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I am still dealing with the seller. Last two emails he was trying to sell me on the cooler dark color.......Sent him an ultimatum in return. We'll see.
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I am still dealing with the seller. Last two emails he was trying to sell me on the cooler dark color.......Sent him an ultimatum in return. We'll see.
Ok. He wants to fight about it. Filed a dispute with ebay. I'll let you guys know what happens.
Bullshit.
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Ok. He wants to fight about it. Filed a dispute with ebay. I'll let you guys know what happens.
Bullshit.
Seems like a lot of work over $20, why not just sell it to Jeremy and be done with it?? ???
I'm glad mine worked out ok... sorry for your pain Mike, I know I recommended it, I kinda feel bad about that. :(
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Seems like a lot of work over $20, why not just sell it to Jeremy and be done with it?? ???
I'm glad mine worked out ok... sorry for your pain Mike, I know I recommended it, I kinda feel bad about that. :(
Jeremy dosn't want it now. I was nice to the seller, it's principal now. I'll smash the damn taillight.
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Jeremy dosn't want it now. I was nice to the seller, it's principal now. I'll smash the damn taillight.
Mike- I agree with you that it is sucky. They sent you something that was not pictured. They can't change the specs like that and not offer you a free exchange, shipping paid by them, or a full refund, including shipping both ways. Anything less is simply unfair and bad business.
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When I saw the pics it just didn't seem worth the effort to put in the "smoked" taillight to have the same or even less light output.
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Mike- I agree with you that it is sucky. They sent you something that was not pictured. They can't change the specs like that and not offer you a free exchange, shipping paid by them, or a full refund, including shipping both ways. Anything less is simply unfair and bad business.
That's all I asked for....give me what I ordered. I'll post the email exchange later, it started out funny. Ebay has it now, CC company next I guess.
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That's all I asked for....give me what I ordered. I'll post the email exchange later, it started out funny. Ebay has it now, CC company next I guess.
I won the dispute. Ebay refunded my money today. Too bad it went to that.
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O.K., so, if I had not decided to also at the same time, add my blinking LED's (brake only) made by StreetFX, I could have had this done in less than an hour and that's only because I have never taken the back of the bike apart. Had I done that before and been familiar, I could have had it done in about 20-25 minutes.
So, it's installed and within 2 minutes of each reading, I was able to check the stock light and the replacement light for brightness. Granted, this is a sensor on a camera and is using a program to check the lighting for taking pictures (values are in "Lux"), but it's the first one I found that looked easy to use.
Stock light, running: 40 lux
stock light, brake: 320 lux
aftermarket, running: 225 lux
aftermarket, brake: 640 lux
Ignore the white cable ties, they will be removed as they are only on there for the adhesive to set on the LED's:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/IMAG0342.jpg)
Here is how far I had to take things apart:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v612/SVonhof/moto/IMAG0341.jpg)
Here is a quick and dirty video I took after getting everything installed:
VIDEO0006.3gp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqz12jqqMk4#)
Well worth the money (under $30 shipped or $40 shipped if you do the buy-it-now).
SV,
I have a set of hyperlites too that I want to connect just like you have on your reflectors. How did you tie them into the brake circuit? Do I need a vampire tap into the tail light somehow?
Thanks,
Nate
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Nate, mine are the 'El Cheapo version of Hyperlites, they are made by StreetFX and all they do is flash, but they are bright (a little less than the hyperlites). I just tapped directly into the brake light (spliced in some spade connections in case I decide to remove it (don't think it will happen).
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Nate, mine are the 'El Cheapo version of Hyperlites, they are made by StreetFX and all they do is flash, but they are bright (a little less than the hyperlites). I just tapped directly into the brake light (spliced in some spade connections in case I decide to remove it (don't think it will happen).
Actually I have the exact same lights! :) But thanks, I just wanted to make sure the current draw wasn't too much and caused an issue with the tail light. Be safe!
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Actually I have the exact same lights! :) But thanks, I just wanted to make sure the current draw wasn't too much and caused an issue with the tail light. Be safe!
Definitely not a current draw issue as the StreetFX lights take very little power. Go for it!
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Cannot get my Hyperlites to work with this new tail light(no blinking). Does anyone else have this issue and if so, what is the fix.
Thanks.
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Cannot get my Hyperlites to work with this new tail light(no blinking). Does anyone else have this issue and if so, what is the fix.
Thanks.
You need to explain what you mean when you say they won't work. Do the hyperlites not blink? Do the integrated signals in the new tail light not blink? Do neither of them blink? Do the stock signals still blink regardless of the other two? Do the hyperlites blink if the the tail light's integrated signals aren't connected? Do the integrated turn signals work if the hyperlites aren't connected?
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You need to explain what you mean when you say they won't work. Do the hyperlites not blink? Do the integrated signals in the new tail light not blink? Do neither of them blink? Do the stock signals still blink regardless of the other two? Do the hyperlites blink if the the tail light's integrated signals aren't connected? Do the integrated turn signals work if the hyperlites aren't connected?
Not working meaning they do not operate as advertised. No more blinking when brakes are applied, just goes from running lights to steady bright. If I reverse the red and grey wires, it goes to a steady blinking pattern when the running lights are on. I installed the Ebay light without the signal option so If you need anymore info, please don't hesitate to ask.
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Did the hyperlites work properly before the new tail light, or did you install the hyperlites after the new tail light?
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Not sure what the issue is, but my Back-Up XP will not make the ebay brake light flash. I did not hook up the integrated turn signals. But I can plug in the stock tail light and the brake lights will give 5 quick flashes and then steady burn. Unplug the OEM and plug in the ebay .... no flash.
Not complaining.... what should I have expected for $17? I am putting the OEM back in before this thing back feeds and blows out an ECU
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Very odd, mine is working perfect and I'm very happy with it, much better and brighter than the stock one IMO...
I'm not using the blinker integration though, just tail light and brake light.
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The Chinese Mafia is involved in a conspiract with the production of this farkle...designed to cause our C-14's to fail at a pre-determined time...not allow proper flashing of brakes like a Japanese product will function...sell it cheap so all our poor un-employed bikers in the USA who live on a shoestring will buy it.....make it look cute...then they stick it to us with multiple problems shortly after installation......
Guess we all need to return them and be thankful it does not allow our engines to sieze up too!
Ninja
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I got my money back and kept the light......
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The Chinese Mafia is involved in a conspiract with the production of this farkle...designed to cause our C-14's to fail at a pre-determined time...not allow proper flashing of brakes like a Japanese product will function...sell it cheap so all our poor un-employed bikers in the USA who live on a shoestring will buy it.....make it look cute...then they stick it to us with multiple problems shortly after installation......
Guess we all need to return them and be thankful it does not allow our engines to sieze up too!
Ninja
Give it time...
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I got my money back and kept the light......
Since you were going to smash it can I have it 8)
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Since you were going to smash it can I have it 8)
Smashing it will be theraputic.....
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This light has the standard three wire connector and two yellow wires. What do the two yellow wires do and where should they be connected?
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This light has the standard three wire connector and two yellow wires. What do the two yellow wires do where should they be connected?
You have not read the thread!
They are for the undocumented turn signal function. Not really needed for the Concours, since it has decent turn signals.
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You have not read the thread!
They are for the undocumented turn signal function. Not really needed for the Concours, since it has decent turn signals.
Depends what you mean by undocumented. The EBay page says that it has integrated turn signals. However, the unit comes with no directions saying that's what the yellow wires are for.
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Depends what you mean by undocumented. The EBay page says that it has integrated turn signals. However, the unit comes with no directions saying that's what the yellow wires are for.
It also doesn't say the turn signals blink amber....
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3 pages so far, wow! I wouldn't have expected that when I started this thread... :o
Oh, and by the way, mine works and looks great! :thumbs:
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3 pages so far, wow! I wouldn't have expected that when I started this thread... :o
Oh, and by the way, mine works and looks great! :thumbs:
Wanna trade for a dark one?
:popcorn:
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Wanna trade for a dark one?
:popcorn:
You should post it up in the classifieds section Mike, I'm sure somebody will take it off your hands since you don't want it...
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The seller has finally decided to ship to Canada, so I picked one up. I'm going to connect the turn signals but wire a couple of relays in so that when I apply the brakes the turn signal will shut off and it will show only brakes. I figure that will get me maximum attention in both modes.
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Ok, I will admit, I have not gone through all 10 pages of this thread, but I had picked up a smoked version of this from the same ebay seller and just got around to installing it yesterday. It was actually a piece of cake and everything (including the blinkers) worked as planned. That was, until I tested it with my Givi E55NT Tech case with the Admore Light kit, which also has running, brake and blinkers.....the tail light still worked, but it sent my Admore lights into a tizzy...they would not work correctly. Just out of curiosity, put the stock tail light back on and everything is working. There must be some sort of electronics in this light that is stopping the Admore kit to work correctly. Anyone got any thoughts?
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Ok, I will admit, I have not gone through all 10 pages of this thread, but I had picked up a smoked version of this from the same ebay seller and just got around to installing it yesterday. It was actually a piece of cake and everything (including the blinkers) worked as planned. That was, until I tested it with my Givi E55NT Tech case with the Admore Light kit, which also has running, brake and blinkers.....the tail light still worked, but it sent my Admore lights into a tizzy...they would not work correctly. Just out of curiosity, put the stock tail light back on and everything is working. There must be some sort of electronics in this light that is stopping the Admore kit to work correctly. Anyone got any thoughts?
Try not doing the blinkers intergrated into the ebay tail light. I have an Admore kit for my Kawi 47 trunk and everything works fine for trunk and ebay tail light, but I didn't integrate the blinker function into the ebay tail light, only the trunk with the Admore kit.
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Thanks for the reply. I believe I tried that, but with all the time I spent on it yesterday, and after thinking about it, now I am not sure. Will confirm and try this new tail light without the blinker functionality and see what happens.
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I had issues with mine as well. Couldn't get my HyperLites to blink with it installed. Went back to stock and everything is fine but now using a much brighter Whelen ION as an auxiliary second brake light mounted above the stocker.
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Thanks for the links. Ordered my clear lens unit tonight. The blue tempted me, but with a black bike I'm going for maximum brightness clear. 8)
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I also had issues........ I had already installed a "Back-Off" brake light flasher and a set of hyperlight LED's. When I installed the ebay brake light, the Hyperlights would not longer function correctly. I dont remember exactly what they did, just that they were not working the same. Simply plug in the stock light and everything would go back to working again. Glad I didnt pay much for it.
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Has anyone else had trouble with these? I finally got around to installing it today; well trying to at least. I plugged it in and got nothing. Plug the OEM back in and it works fine, but the aftermarket item doesn't work at all. Advice or troubleshooting tips would be welcome.
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All, see the thread below. I installed a 3 amp diode from Radio Shack inline with the brake light wire, and all is well.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5676.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5676.0)
Ok, here is a link to the video....
http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u149/ljcorby/2010%20Concours%2014%20ABS/?action=view¤t=GiviCasewithLights5.mp4 (http://s167.photobucket.com/albums/u149/ljcorby/2010%20Concours%2014%20ABS/?action=view¤t=GiviCasewithLights5.mp4)
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We discovered the need for that diode way back when a forum member named Jerry (JamminJere) bought one of those tail lights from Ebay and it would not work with an additional tail light in a top box. After Jerry grabbed a bunch of data with a voltmeter, we figured out that the light was back feeding the circuit; that was fine unless there was another light in the circuit. Or as it turns out, a Rostra CC.
Too bad but all that information and a lot more went to digital heaven with the old site.
Brian
All, see the thread below. I installed a 3 amp diode from Radio Shack inline with the brake light wire, and all is well.
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5676.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5676.0)
<snipped video>
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Brian, my apologies for not mentioning you were the one who suggested the diode....thank you so much for the info.
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Nope, no need to apologize and that was not my point. I was just pointing out that this ground was already covered and it is too bad that that info. was lost. Lots of useful (and a lot of non- useful info. too :D ) lost when the old forum went away.
Brian
Brian, my apologies for not mentioning you were the one who suggested the diode....thank you so much for the info.
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Agreed, and thanks again for sharing.
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Received and installed the clear lens version, and connected the turnsignals. Very happy with the results. A nice up-grade!
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I still have a dark smoke version available. I'm not gonna use it.
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Nope, no need to apologize and that was not my point. I was just pointing out that this ground was already covered and it is too bad that that info. was lost. Lots of useful (and a lot of non- useful info. too :D ) lost when the old forum went away.
Brian
I was lost when the old forum went away, too
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I still have a dark smoke version available. I'm not gonna use it.
You should put it in the classifieds...
Sup Mike? What happen to ya against KC?
The 72 fins were all :chugbeer:
;D ;D ;D
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We discovered the need for that diode way back when a forum member named Jerry (JamminJere) bought one of those tail lights from Ebay and it would not work with an additional tail light in a top box. After Jerry grabbed a bunch of data with a voltmeter, we figured out that the light was back feeding the circuit; that was fine unless there was another light in the circuit.
Finally got around to installing the diode today and just as you said it would ..... problem solved. Now my LED's nd Back-Off module work like they are supposed to.
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Received and installed the clear lens version, and connected the turnsignals. Very happy with the results. A nice up-grade!
where you order it from, can you post a link? thanks
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Apparently, the seller is no longer listing them on Ebay. It was by a seller called "divintymotor".
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where you order it from, can you post a link? thanks
I listed the links to buy on page one of this thread.
As SV said though it looks like he no longer has them listed on ebay, but you can shoot him a message through ebay with an inquiry, you never know maybe he has a couple left over...
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I listed the links to buy on page one of this thread.
As SV said though it looks like he no longer has them listed on ebay, but you can shoot him a message through ebay with an inquiry, you never know maybe he has a couple left over...
I did it and they respond sending me a link of the other store they have, i did order the clear one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110782008116&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_8628wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110782008116&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_8628wt_1139)
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gildaguz, glad to hear you were able to get one still! Good news for others who are just finding this thread as well.
ZG, wanna update your initial post with the new link?
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I did it and they respond sending me a link of the other store they have, i did order the clear one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110782008116&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_8628wt_1139 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110782008116&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT#ht_8628wt_1139)
That's awesome G, glad to hear it worked out and these are still available!! :thumbs: 8)
gildaguz, glad to hear you were able to get one still! Good news for others who are just finding this thread as well.
ZG, wanna update your initial post with the new link?
I just updated the ebay buy links, good idea SV! ;)
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Just dont forget to add the diode!
http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5676.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=5676.0)
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I have HYPERLITES installed, so should i use the diode?
Just in the brake light wire, not in the driving light wire?
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I have HYPERLITES installed, so should i use the diode?
Just in the brake light wire, not in the driving light wire?
Just in brake light wire. You can get a 3 amp diode from Radio Shack and place it inline between the brake light and the harness plug. If you tap in to that wire for your hyperlights, tap in before the the diode. You dont want anything between the diode and the brake light. The diode can only go one way so if you install it and things dont work, turn it around the other way. It is basically a one way valve, current can flow thru it one way, but not the other.
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OK i did install tail lamp today, i did put the diode on and after installed measured voltage at the blue wire ( green in the new lamp) before the diode was almost 7 volts and with the diode still show about 0.4 volts, I'm posting pictures with both lamps lighting at the same time one next to other so the difference can be seen ( did use a battery and jumper wires to power up the stock lamp), the difference is more noticeable with the driving lights than with brake lights
i did cover the HIPERLYTES with black tape
Driving lights
(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/pre_2035.jpg)
Brake lights
(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/pre_2034.jpg)
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i like that, am ordering one of them, i have a top case and always kind of afraid someone behind me not seeing the brake light, this should work pretty good, thanks.
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not bad for the price, the OEM light is not as bright as i would like it, might have to give this one's a try or get the admore light system, decisions decisions.
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OK i did install tail lamp today, i did put the diode on and after installed measured voltage at the blue wire ( green in the new lamp) before the diode was almost 7 volts and with the diode still show about 0.4 volts, I'm posting pictures with both lamps lighting at the same time one next to other so the difference can be seen ( did use a battery and jumper wires to power up the stock lamp), the difference is more noticeable with the driving lights than with brake lights
i did cover the HIPERLYTES with black tape
Driving lights
(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/pre_2035.jpg)
Brake lights
(http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/12/22/83/92/pre_2034.jpg)
Very nice G! :thumbs: :thumbs: