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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: Bourne2Ride on June 10, 2013, 02:52:39 PM
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I was searching around the web for Angel Eye's for the Connie, and found this ebay link. Angel Eye HID Projector (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Angel-eye-HID-Projector-Headlight-Kawasaki-Concours-14-1400GTR-2008-2012-09-10-/290927899414?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AKawasaki|Model%3AConcours|Submodel%3A14&hash=item43bca77316&vxp=mtr)
Has anyone installed these units or has heard from the company that produces this hack (360 autopart)? The unit looks good, but there isn't a lot of information other than this ebay link.
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It is a no-name, so it is unlikely you will ever get any feedback on this... and probably no support later. I would be extremely concerned about the light pattern from something like that, and also it is likely the entire sealed system would have to be opened to install such a thing (as pictured, there is no way that is going through the bulb holes).
It is not just China- it is DIRECT from China.
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:popcorn:
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It is a no-name, so it is unlikely you will ever get any feedback on this... and probably no support later. I would be extremely concerned about the light pattern from something like that, and also it is likely the entire sealed system would have to be opened to install such a thing (as pictured, there is no way that is going through the bulb holes).
It is not just China- it is DIRECT from China.
I'm not saying you're wrong about the quality max' (or the support lacking), however it appears that you get the WHOLE assembly, that is a pre-installed set already in a Kawasaki headlight housing.
5. Packing List
1 X Headlight Assembly Concours 14 ( 1400GTR / ZG1400) 2008-2012
2 X HID Projector with HID bulb
2X 55W High Quality Extra Slim HID Ballast
2 X CCFL Angel Eye with igniter
2 X CCFL Demon Eye with igniter
1 X Relay Wiring Harness ( connect to the battery and original high/low beam switch)
This Custom headlight with Angel eye HID Projector pre-installed.
Still at $650.00 it's not something I'd try until I've heard someone's (w/deep pockets) report on it.
If only they had some with GREEN angel eyes.....then we would know all about
them and see a gazillion pictures as well. (:popcorn: back attcha ZG .. ;D )
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Yeah, it looks like a new, complete headlight assembly with projectors. Interesting offering but questionable as to how they did it.
If they used those projectors that mount where an H4 lamp normally goes, I would be wary of the case eventually breaking because the projector is a LOT more weight than the original bulb. If they mounted regular sized projectors inside the housing, did they do it adequately and are the adjustments still functional? And finally, there is the question of the quality of the projectors themselves. There are some projectors being offered that appear to be new types made in China; some are not too bad while others are not too good.
A set will show up sooner or later and maybe we can get some answers as well as a light output pattern against a wall or something.
Brian
I'm not saying you're wrong about the quality max' (or the support lacking), however it appears that you get the WHOLE assembly, that is a pre-installed set already in a Kawasaki headlight housing.
Still at $650.00 it's not something I'd try until I've heard someone's (w/deep pockets) report on it.
If only they had some with GREEN angel eyes.....then we would know all about
them and see a gazillion pictures as well. (:popcorn: back attcha ZG .. ;D )
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I'm not saying you're wrong about the quality max' (or the support lacking), however it appears that you get the WHOLE assembly, that is a pre-installed set already in a Kawasaki headlight housing.
Wow! Now that I missed. Pretty radical. I guess they cloned the entire thing. That also might help tremendously with the pattern and reliability.
Still at $650.00 it's not something I'd try until I've heard someone's (w/deep pockets) report on it.
If only they had some with GREEN angel eyes.....then we would know all about them and see a gazillion pictures as well. (:popcorn: back attcha ZG .. ;D )
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It is really cheap for what it is, but nowhere near enough info for me.
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I like it! Not enough to pay that much, but I like it!
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Angel-eye-HID-Projector-Headlight-Kawasaki-Concours-14-1400GTR-2008-2012-09-10-/00/s/NDc2WDgwMA==/z/Q~IAAOxyrjZRsdj6/$(KGrHqMOKpYFGWfj3M)VBRsdj51Tzw~~60_3.JPG)
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Assuming your C14s are the same as the UK GTR1400 then you would only have that look while the ignition was on, but before you started the engine, once started the dip (low beam) lights are on.
Also over here it is illegal to show a red light on the front, and blue lights are for emergency vehicles only....
Would still be interesting to see how well the HID projectors work
Richard
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I don't know anyone who has used that specific set but I do have a friend that ordered a custom one from www.sickhids.com (http://www.sickhids.com) and he loves his. It looks like their site is currently under construction but they'll make your headlights to order, which is cool. You can choose from an array of design options as well as colors and other things. Pretty neat...
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Hi
Assuming your C14s are the same as the UK GTR1400 then you would only have that look while the ignition was on, but before you started the engine, once started the dip (low beam) lights are on.
Also over here it is illegal to show a red light on the front, and blue lights are for emergency vehicles only....
Would still be interesting to see how well the HID projectors work
Richard
Yes, all of that applies to the North American version, but it would still be fun. You could play devil and install an actual headlight switch to turn off the dipped beam.
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Hi
Assuming your C14s are the same as the UK GTR1400 then you would only have that look while the ignition was on, but before you started the engine, once started the dip (low beam) lights are on.
Also over here it is illegal to show a red light on the front, and blue lights are for emergency vehicles only....
Would still be interesting to see how well the HID projectors work
Richard
Yes, all of that applies to the North American version, but it would still be fun. You could play devil and install an actual headlight switch to turn off the dipped beam.
Oh yes it could be fun, maybe if they did green or yellow, be more likelly to get away with it, but I do like the red.......
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Assuming your C14s are the same as the UK GTR1400 then you would only have that look while the ignition was on, but before you started the engine, once started the dip (low beam) lights are on.
They are the same, and you are correct
Also over here it is illegal to show a red light on the front, and blue lights are for emergency vehicles only....
Same here, blue and green are illegal period, red on front is illegal, but people keep pushing it.
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As a BMW owner I laugh at the whole AE craze thats going on now....wow pretty original ::)
Those things are hideous IMO but its your bike.. :o
$650 is a lot of $$$ for those lights.. :-\
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As a BMW owner I laugh at the whole AE craze thats going on now....wow pretty original ::)
Those things are hideous IMO but its your bike.. :o
I think they are pretty freaky, myself.
$650 is a lot of $$$ for those lights.. :-\
$650 for a pair of projector lenses, HID bulbs and mounts and ballasts, and an entire "sealed" headlight assembly is actually not bad at all. But if the quality is poor and/or the patterns suck, it isn't worth anything.
Anyway, take a hammer to your clear bubble and go to your dealer and find out what the part costs for just an empty assembly :)
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Also over here it is illegal to show a red light on the front, and blue lights are for emergency vehicles only....
Richard
Correct and incorrect.
In the UK you cannot show a red light from the front of the vehicle (not even emergency vehicles),...
but you can have a blue light so long as it does not flash and is not the main headlamp (most of the bluer HIDs are illegal!)
Green is verboten as they are afraid people will think it's a traffic light and drive at you. <LOL>
Yellow is also verboten as it is reserved for indicators (turn signals).
White is to indicate that the vehicle is moving towards you which is why car reversing lights are white (apart from improving visibility when reversing).
So, in fact the only colour that is legal is blue. You do see lots of trucks over here with blue lights around the cabs.
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Thanks! A new term for my English to English translations: 'Reversing'. We call that 'backing up' and of course the lights that go with it are 'back up lights'. I do not think I ever heard the term reversing before....
Brian
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White is to indicate that the vehicle is moving towards you which is why car reversing lights are white (apart from improving visibility when reversing).
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$650 for a pair of projector lenses, HID bulbs and mounts and ballasts, and an entire "sealed" headlight assembly is actually not bad at all. But if the quality is poor and/or the patterns suck, it isn't worth anything.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Angel-eye-HID-Projector-Headlight-Kawasaki-Concours-14-1400GTR-2008-2012-09-10-/00/s/NTMzWDgwMA==/z/jLIAAMXQBg5RsbNG/$T2eC16V,!yUE9s6NEllCBRsbNG%29OYw~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Angel-eye-HID-Projector-Headlight-Kawasaki-Concours-14-1400GTR-2008-2012-09-10-/00/s/NTMzWDgwMA==/z/liMAAMXQHU1RsbNF/$T2eC16F,!y8E9s2fjFHOBRsbNFPtGg~~60_12.JPG)
To my untrained eye, the patterns look pretty good, however I guess we don't know for sure that these light pattern
photos are not from some expensive European car.
I sure hope someone here gets them and reports back to us. The seller has lots for sale for other bikes, Ducs and Gold Wings
etc. anybody see info about these on other forums??
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Thanks for all the replies! It looks like this company is taking OEM head light Assembly's and custom fitting them with the HID projectors. It's similar to what the guys in my Mazda 3 club do to get Angel Eyes on their cars. you have to take off the whole assembly and back it in an oven at 250 degrees for 10 minutes to loosen the glue holding the clear front from the back. So, I feel this person or company is doing the same. Anyway, I'm not spending any cash on a company no one knows about or there is no information on.
I guess my quest for Angel Eye running lights is ongoing. I also agree that the beam pattern looks correct.
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Anyway, I'm not spending any cash on a company no one knows about or there is no information on.
I guess my quest for Angel Eye running lights is ongoing. I also agree that the beam pattern looks correct.
I think my Sick HIDs (www.sickhids.com (http://www.sickhids.com)) comment got lost in the shuffle. You should check them out if you haven't already, though. My buddy bought a set from them and they look pretty cool and he loves them. They make the lights to order and you can customize a bunch of different aspects of them which is pretty cool, I think. Not sure how much they are, though. Worth a look, at least.
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Thanks! A new term for my English to English translations: 'Reversing'. We call that 'backing up' and of course the lights that go with it are 'back up lights'. I do not think I ever heard the term reversing before....
Well, I don't remember exactly where you are, but here (VA) I have heard both reverse and back-up used interchangeably. I call the "reverse lights" and always have (and it seems to be the preferred term). So your "we" doesn't represent the USA...
And by the way- the carbonated beverages in cans, such as cola, are called "soda".... :)
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So, in fact the only colour that is legal [the in UK] is blue. You do see lots of trucks over here with blue lights around the cabs.
That is interesting.
Here (Virginia... and I assume most states) if you show blue, you will be pulled over and ticketed pretty quickly. Interestingly, they can even ticket for "impersonating a police officer". And yet they seem to allow people to go mostly unharassed with those ridiculous "bluish" headlights (because, you know, since proper/real/factory pure white HID lighting looks neat, making it 10 times bluer on fake/aftermarket/crappy "HID" lighting is much much more impressive- not that I have an opinion about it or anything.)
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(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Angel-eye-HID-Projector-Headlight-Kawasaki-Concours-14-1400GTR-2008-2012-09-10-/00/s/NTMzWDgwMA==/z/jLIAAMXQBg5RsbNG/$T2eC16V,!yUE9s6NEllCBRsbNG%29OYw~~60_12.JPG)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Angel-eye-HID-Projector-Headlight-Kawasaki-Concours-14-1400GTR-2008-2012-09-10-/00/s/NTMzWDgwMA==/z/liMAAMXQHU1RsbNF/$T2eC16F,!y8E9s2fjFHOBRsbNFPtGg~~60_12.JPG)
To my untrained eye, the patterns look pretty good, however I guess we don't know for sure that these light pattern
photos are not from some expensive European car.
I sure hope someone here gets them and reports back to us. The seller has lots for sale for other bikes, Ducs and Gold Wings
etc. anybody see info about these on other forums??
If I was selling these I would have found an empty car park with a blank wall to demonstrate the light pattern, not the back lane behind the shop.
Correct and incorrect.
In the UK you cannot show a red light from the front of the vehicle (not even emergency vehicles),...
but you can have a blue light so long as it does not flash and is not the main headlamp (most of the bluer HIDs are illegal!)
Green is verboten as they are afraid people will think it's a traffic light and drive at you. <LOL>
Yellow is also verboten as it is reserved for indicators (turn signals).
White is to indicate that the vehicle is moving towards you which is why car reversing lights are white (apart from improving visibility when reversing).
So, in fact the only colour that is legal is blue. You do see lots of trucks over here with blue lights around the cabs.
Interesting, so blue would be the one to go for
Richard
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I also found these... http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=927 (http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?products_id=927)... Can't remember if it was somewhere on here or my Ducati forum... Either way, some interesting products.
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I think my Sick HIDs (www.sickhids.com (http://www.sickhids.com)) comment got lost in the shuffle. You should check them out if you haven't already, though. My buddy bought a set from them and they look pretty cool and he loves them. They make the lights to order and you can customize a bunch of different aspects of them which is pretty cool, I think. Not sure how much they are, though. Worth a look, at least.
That guy does some very cool work. Kaw parts fiche shows the housing for $400. If he could do his work for $250 or so a person could have a plug and play custom set made in this country and have their takeout for sale to recoup some of the cost. Or find a housing on ebay from a breaker.
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Well I am just a bit north of you (yep, across that line) where it is still sodaland....
Still, I have never heard an American say (or write) anything like 'I was reversing the car'. Reverse is a noun here, not a state of driving. I betcha' you cannot find me one example of an American using reversing as a verb or adverb (reversing lights).
Of course the Internet is polluting both languages (English and English). It was not long ago that the word "whilst" was strictly a British (or at least non- American) word. It still is NOT a word in American English but it is now being used by enough Americans that I cannot always tell the nationality of the writer at a glance. No matter what though, I shant be reversing my auto anytime soon.
I tells' ya' Gov, things be a mite off kilter. Tea towel. Reversing. Spiket. Spit the dummy. Colour. Favourite. Prat. Pedantry. et. al.
Brian (Bryan, as in tyre)
Well, I don't remember exactly where you are, but here (VA) I have heard both reverse and back-up used interchangeably. I call the "reverse lights" and always have (and it seems to be the preferred term). So your "we" doesn't represent the USA...
And by the way- the carbonated beverages in cans, such as cola, are called "soda".... :)
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Still, I have never heard an American say (or write) anything like 'I was reversing the car'. Reverse is a noun here, not a state of driving. I betcha' you cannot find me one example of an American using reversing as a verb or adverb (reversing lights).
As a verb? Probably not. Noun- yes. Adjective- yes. They are reverse lights. I put the car into reverse. I reversed direction. He was heading to me in reverse. But I backed up the car. "Reversing the car" is a bit ambiguous- that could mean one put the car into reverse or one was moving in reverse or perhaps picked up the car and turned it around or something... it is certainly an odd phrase that I would not expect to hear.
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Spiket
Spigot?
Sorry, I had to ask. I have just never heard the word spiket and was wondering if maybe it was a British thing...
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I think my Sick HIDs (www.sickhids.com (http://www.sickhids.com)) comment got lost in the shuffle. You should check them out if you haven't already, though. My buddy bought a set from them and they look pretty cool and he loves them. They make the lights to order and you can customize a bunch of different aspects of them which is pretty cool, I think. Not sure how much they are, though. Worth a look, at least.
I took a look at the SICK HID site, but there wasn't a lot of information about what to order or how to order. The site looked slick tough, just not a lot of info; but thanks!
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I took a look at the SICK HID site, but there wasn't a lot of information about what to order or how to order. The site looked slick tough, just not a lot of info; but thanks!
Yea, when I checked yesterday their website was under construction so the information was quite limited. I just checked again and it looks like their "Contact Us" section is working but the Gallery is still being worked on. Your best bet is to browse the gallery section (once it's back up) for a set-up similar to what you'd like, save or copy a photo of it, then use the Contact Us section to email the guy with the photo, your year, make, model of bike as well as a short description of what you're looking for.
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Reversing, backing up, negative acceleration from a standstill,.....
I guess we call it reversing due to using reverse gear.
Ya could say, "I'm going to call Mom and I'm reversing the charges"
or "We have made good progress in reversing the damage done by the disease"
As for the headlights, I'll stay stock thanks. The C14 lights are pretty good anyways.
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I betcha' you cannot find me one example of an American using reversing as a verb or adverb (reversing lights).
Could we reverse the direction of this thread back to being on topic? ;D ;)
(The above is an example, not a request...or am I reversing myself by such a notation?)
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Could we reverse the direction of this thread back to being on topic? ;D ;)
No, but we might be able to BACK IT UP on topic....