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The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => Accessories and modifications - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: stewart on March 19, 2013, 06:38:04 AM
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I have a track day booked in May and I've started thinking about capturing some interesting Camera Angles vs the stock Front and Rear facing video.
So I thought I could mount it under the bike and get some video of the Rear and Front tires railing edge to edge. Any thoughts on how this could be accomplished so 1) its dead center on the bike, even left/right and 2) I can re-use front facing and rear, less important but nice to have.
My bike is in for service so haven't had a chance to have a good ponder, but looking at photo's it doesn't seem obvious/clear.
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Seems like you could mount it where the lower front panels meat in front of the radiator. But might bee too close to the front wheel and not give you much of a view. But the problem would be if any further back it would have to be very low and could get ripped off on any kind of bump. If low but to the side then could limit your lean angle. Maybe mounted looking straight down in the vicinity of the center stand but into a mirror. Make it so the mirror would rip off easy without doing damage. Could even get a curved mirror for a wide angle view.
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Sounds like you need a slipstick camera.
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opportunities for mount locations are infinite. google go pro motorcycle and take your pic, no matter what cam you use
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Been thinking about this and my biggest concern right now is radiant heat from the exhaust.
The two possible locations are..
1) Upfront directly behind the front tire facing rear, stuck to the bottom of the front faring, dead center. This will give me the best shot but the exhaust pipe bends right there, hence the heat question. I may need a heat shield.
2) Stuck under the rear suspension, where it hinges in the center in front of the rear wheel. I don't know the technical name of this part, but it works for a location. Only concern now is vibration and how much it tilts up/down. I won't know until I test it before heading to the track.
Other locations I plan on using is under a mirror facing rear and on the side faring facing rear.
We'll see.
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Seems like you could mount it where the lower front panels meat
Ooooh, meat is gross! But that is another thread....
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What camera system you using?
I am happy with my GoPro. They make a lot of mounts for it.
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What camera system you using?
I am happy with my GoPro. They make a lot of mounts for it.
I have a Contour GPS (HD), very happy with it. I use it skiing and on the bike. Here is a video from one of my last track days.
http://contour.com/stories/trackday-june-18th-2012 (http://contour.com/stories/trackday-june-18th-2012)
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Found a good location. Mounted the Camera on the Rear Suspension mount, seems to work pretty good.
I'm going to use this during my next track day in May for a session.
http://contour.com/stories/rear-tire-test (http://contour.com/stories/rear-tire-test)
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Nice!! I may do the same thing. I'd like to see the changes the tire and suspension goes through at WFO and entry/exit height.
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Sounds like you need a slipstick camera.
http://replayxd.com/ (http://replayxd.com/)
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http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour (http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour)
On order, along with the bike mount kit :) Thanks Gumby 8)
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http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour (http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour)
On order, along with the bike mount kit :) Thanks Gumby 8)
That is a smokin deal on what appears to be a lot of camera for the money. Saw a Contour years ago at an indoor supermoto event. Unit appeared extremely well made, and the video looked good.
Barry
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http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour (http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour)
On order, along with the bike mount kit :) Thanks Gumby 8)
Wow! I've been holding off on GoPro because I think it is WAY over priced. This looks good.
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I have a Contour GPS (HD), very happy with it. I use it skiing and on the bike. Here is a video from one of my last track days.
http://contour.com/stories/trackday-june-18th-2012 (http://contour.com/stories/trackday-june-18th-2012)
We will all be waiting anxiously for you to post some videos. 8)
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http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour (http://www.amazon.com/ContourROAM-Waterproof-Hands-free-Camcorder-Watersport/dp/B007W02PRM/ref=sr_1_2?s=photo&ie=UTF8&qid=1366995151&sr=1-2&keywords=contour)
On order, along with the bike mount kit :) Thanks Gumby 8)
Got mine the other day, and just got the mounts yesterday. I have not put it on the bike yet but I have been playing with it and it is a very nice little camera for the money indeed. :thumbs:
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I picked up a contour roam about a week ago. Works well, and the video is good too. I sold my gopro hero because it was too complicated. With the roam. You just hit the switch. I have it mounted on the side of my helmet. Very easy to reach up and turn it off or on.
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Found a good location. Mounted the Camera on the Rear Suspension mount, seems to work pretty good.
I'm going to use this during my next track day in May for a session.
http://contour.com/stories/rear-tire-test (http://contour.com/stories/rear-tire-test)
Going to try this tomorrow with my GoPro, thx for the idea..
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I sold my gopro hero because it was too complicated.
Agree with it being to complicated. You have to read the users guide to fully understand its workings. But it does have unlimited mounting possibilities.
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Agree with it being to complicated. You have to read the users guide to fully understand its workings. But it does have unlimited mounting possibilities.
The first GoPro I owned was complicated but with version 2 and now version 3 that is not the case any longer.. very easy to use.
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Found a good location. Mounted the Camera on the Rear Suspension mount, seems to work pretty good.
I'm going to use this during my next track day in May for a session.
http://contour.com/stories/rear-tire-test (http://contour.com/stories/rear-tire-test)
http://youtu.be/So88H8AYqyA (http://youtu.be/So88H8AYqyA)
MGvalerio. 8)
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That is neat. At first I was not sure sure why why you inserted "meows" in there... then I watched it again.... the meows indicate the front tire WAS IN OFF THE PAVEMENT :)
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New solution, as I built the support and new location.
http://youtu.be/5DWFL5di1xA (http://youtu.be/5DWFL5di1xA)
MGvalerio. ;D
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MG, beat this mount (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/eek.gif.html) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/eek.gif.html) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/eek.gif.html)
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/936485_10151830929158140_2119591952_n.jpg)
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- i have actually tried that mounting as above. But it shook/vibrated too much because of the length of the pole.
- that and the bike became dangerous to others
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MG, beat this mount (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/eek.gif.html) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/eek.gif.html) (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/stevewfl/media/avatars/eek.gif.html)
That's cool. :thumbs:
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- i have actually tried that mounting as above. But it shook/vibrated too much because of the length of the pole.
- that and the bike became dangerous to others
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http://youtu.be/IuTFaUtlQAY (http://youtu.be/IuTFaUtlQAY)
MGvalerio :rotflmao:
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MGvalerio :rotflmao:
MG- SHAME! Your video is very revealing... No proper helmet (no chin). No jacket at all. No gloves at all. WEARING SHORTS. No boots.
Instead of "ATGATT" (All The Gear All The Time) your motto should be "NGAALI" (No Gear At All Love Injuries)!! Good luck!
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MG- SHAME! Your video is very revealing... No proper helmet (no chin). No jacket at all. No gloves at all. WEARING SHORTS. No boots.
Instead of "ATGATT" (All The Gear All The Time) your motto should be "NGAALI" (No Gear At All Love Injuries)!! Good luck!
:thumbs:
http://youtu.be/3Uh6VL2d3zU (http://youtu.be/3Uh6VL2d3zU)
MGvalerio :doh:
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MG- SHAME! Your video is very revealing... No proper helmet (no chin). No jacket at all. No gloves at all. WEARING SHORTS. No boots.
Instead of "ATGATT" (All The Gear All The Time) your motto should be "NGAALI" (No Gear At All Love Injuries)!! Good luck!
That's strange...
In many States of the US the helmet is not mandatory and I have read many fierce debates about how much an injured biker would cost to the tax payers and how forcing to wear an helmet would be an attempt to the invidual freedom.
I wouldn't preach about safety when there isn't a solid and coherent position on the matter on the preacher's side. ;)
BTW, in Italy (and in Europe) the use of an approved helmet (also with no chin) is mandatory everywhere! ;)
(But in Greece where I was on holidays they don't use it... >:()
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That's strange...
In many States of the US the helmet is not mandatory and [...]
I think helmet and seatbelt laws are wrong. It is not the job of the State to protect adults from themselves. Inform, yes. Research, yes. Set standards, yes. Even force inclusion of safety equipment, yes. But I would NEVER get on a bike without a helmet or in a car without using a seatbelt, regardless of the law. Has nothing to do with what is legal or not and everything to do with what makes sense.
It doesn't make sense to ride around on a motorcycle without proper gear. Do it if you want, but it is a very dangerous situation.
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I think helmet and seatbelt laws are wrong. It is not the job of the State to protect adults from themselves. Inform, yes. Research, yes. Set standards, yes. Even force inclusion of safety equipment, yes. But I would NEVER get on a bike without a helmet or in a car without using a seatbelt, regardless of the law. Has nothing to do with what is legal or not and everything to do with what makes sense.
It doesn't make sense to ride around on a motorcycle without proper gear. Do it if you want, but it is a very dangerous situation.
This is a very interesting subject. On one hand I agree (and a forum member has something like this in his signature: "it's not the job of the state to protect the individuals from their own stupidity...") that we should receive information and then take educated decisions. If I want to die driving my bike, or assume the risks, it should be my right. But this would only work in a perfect world, where a) others don't have to pay for my medical expenses or even for hosing off my blood from the street and b) the law doesn't blame another eventual participant in the accident for whatever injury I suffer by choosing (for example) not to wear a helmet.
I'd really like to debate this. I'm not kidding.
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Show me the statistics from any country, state, province or where ever of the cost of the 'burden to society'. Then show me the bodies of these so-called 'burdens'. The argument is based on spurious reasoning and non factual facts. As for blood on the street we already pay a street cleaner.
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This is a very interesting subject. On one hand I agree (and a forum member has something like this in his signature: "it's not the job of the state to protect the individuals from their own stupidity...") that we should receive information and then take educated decisions. If I want to die driving my bike, or assume the risks, it should be my right. But this would only work in a perfect world, where a) others don't have to pay for my medical expenses or even for hosing off my blood from the street and b) the law doesn't blame another eventual participant in the accident for whatever injury I suffer by choosing (for example) not to wear a helmet.
I'd really like to debate this. I'm not kidding.
Well, it is a long standing debate for many people. My position is that insurance shouldn't be used as an excuse to curtail freedom and dictate lifestyle (which is what it is becoming). But you are certainly right about the suing and such.... I could see a reasonable limit of liability if the victim were being "stupid". But it is extraordinarily difficult to put such stuff into workable laws and guidelines. For example- if someone wore no protective gear AT ALL on a bike and someone just tapped them at a stoplight, it could cause severe injuries that would not have happened had they been following "best practices" and wearing "proper" gear. And yet, had they not been hit at all, there would be no liability at all.
Modern society is complex. So I just try to take a general position of "freedom comes first" but along with it is responsibility and being held accountable. The actual path to that is often not clear. :(
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Max sidetracked this tread. Let's get back on topic, camera mounts on bikes. ;)
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m207/Pilgrim32/Bikes/Camera_mounting_zps67eac1d7.jpg) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Pilgrim32/media/Bikes/Camera_mounting_zps67eac1d7.jpg.html)
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Max sidetracked this tread. Let's get back on topic, camera mounts on bikes. ;)
Technically it wasn't me, it was MGvaleri, who posted a video showing himself dressed poorly from a camera that is NOT mounted under the bike (which is what the thread topic is). What is stranger is that MGvaleri has (I think) posted a video from under the bike, before... didn't he? If so, that would have been a much better thing to post.
But I did help bend it a lot further, sorry Stewart :) Anyway, I will be sure to watch Stewart's video, if he gets one.
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Show me the statistics from any country, state, province or where ever of the cost of the 'burden to society'. Then show me the bodies of these so-called 'burdens'. The argument is based on spurious reasoning and non factual facts. As for blood on the street we already pay a street cleaner.
sorry gPink, I really don't follow what you mean :-[
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Martin, sorry to start off in the middle of a rant. This helmet law/ personal freedom debate has been going on for so long over here that I tend to go off. I choose to wear a helmet every time I climb on a motorcycle. I believe it is the right choice and would like to see more people make that choice. Choice being the operative word. The mandatory helmet law people do not believe in personal freedom and freedom of choice. They know that a helmet is more important than training and education. An old argument is that if you don't wear a helmet and are injured in a wreck, you are going to cost the tax payers for your care. It's an argument based on assumptions instead of facts. I have a very strong libertarian streak that causes me to want to be left alone to make my own decisions, right or wrong. This mindset also allows for others to do the same. If someone chooses to waste their life in the gutter so be it. I can choose to step over their dead body and not feel to bad about it.
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I have a very strong libertarian streak that causes me to want to be left alone to make my own decisions, right or wrong.
It seems we are two peas in a pod.
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Io MG valerio mai avuti incidenti in moto in 40 anni e con 400.000 KM fatti,mai caduto di moto,occorre cervello acceso sotto il casco,certamente anche fortuna .
Il mio video è girato in paese per dimostrazione di ciò,stò leggendo tanta aria fritta qui su Camera Mount under Bike.
MG valerio.
PS.
http://youtu.be/daKnqaj5aPQ (http://youtu.be/daKnqaj5aPQ)
PPSS
Ugocom per favore traduci,grazie.
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putting a camera in the exhaust? :o
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putting a camera in the exhaust? :o
:doh:
MG valerio ;)
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The stop to keep the center stand from folding is brilliant.
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The stop to keep the center stand from folding is brilliant.
Con dado da aggiungere al pernio reggi ammortizzatore e bussola esagonale con pernio filettato al suo interno,il gioco è fatto.
MGvalerio. ;)
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The stop to keep the center stand from folding is brilliant.
Used 17mm & 19mm impact sockets (one on each side) for last tire change and it saved me from disaster!
Thanks MGvalerio!
As for a camera mount under your bike, it could be interesting for about a minute...from the videos I've seen, anyway.
Unless you're really into tires, or surface conditions, or roadkill, an under the bike view is better as a part of a compilation.
If you have a couple of cameras in different spots, some editing skills, and an interesting route, that might be interesting. :)
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The one I mounted to the bottom of the fairing lasted about an hour before road debris took it out. I have the video of it happening here somewhere......
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Used 17mm & 19mm impact sockets (one on each side) for last tire change and it saved me from disaster!
Thanks MGvalerio!
used 19mm.impact sockets
MGvalerio.
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I haven't been on the forum for a while, summer's just been way too crazy. Camping, work, new puppy in the house....i've ridden very little this year.
Back on topic. I mounted the Camera under the bike and took it to the track day....I'd like to share the video, but the camera fell off and smashed itself to bits, and I lost the memory card. I didn't account for the heat under the bike which made the adhesive loosen up. The adhesive mounts were fine in other locations, but with less vibrations. Next time I will figure out a way to hard mount it.
I guess new POV camera for the ski season is in order.
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Martin, sorry to start off in the middle of a rant. This helmet law/ personal freedom debate has been going on for so long over here that I tend to go off. I choose to wear a helmet every time I climb on a motorcycle. I believe it is the right choice and would like to see more people make that choice. Choice being the operative word. The mandatory helmet law people do not believe in personal freedom and freedom of choice. They know that a helmet is more important than training and education. An old argument is that if you don't wear a helmet and are injured in a wreck, you are going to cost the tax payers for your care. It's an argument based on assumptions instead of facts. I have a very strong libertarian streak that causes me to want to be left alone to make my own decisions, right or wrong. This mindset also allows for others to do the same. If someone chooses to waste their life in the gutter so be it. I can choose to step over their dead body and not feel to bad about it.
gPink,
sorry it took a while to come back to this thread, work is killing me. But I agree with your views. No facts, no reason to push such a law. And no, I can't show you statistics about this. So I have to agree with you or trust the politicians :-X
Max, make that three peas.