Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C10, aka Kawasaki Concours - The Original => Accessories and Modifications - C10 => Topic started by: Tele130 on May 31, 2011, 10:32:38 AM
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I decided to take a risk and order a set off eBay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290519791573&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290519791573&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT)
I placed the order on May 15th and received them today, not too bad all things considered ;D. I'm pretty impressed with them considering the price I paid ($40.94) shipped! I wanted to keep the look kind of subdued so I went with the Black levers with the Red adjusters.......................kinda ties in with the red strip around the Throttlemeisters.
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(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/Rexrated/DSC07414.jpg)
(http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj287/Rexrated/DSC07416.jpg)
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I got some and the hole where the pin goes into was too small and it made the clutch slip. That was two months ago and I am too lazy to bore the hole out bigger.
Make sure yours is ok, it looks fine until you do a WOT, then you will know
Hopefully yours is ok
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Other than maybe a bit more adjustability and some more leverage, why change out the factory items? Just curious as mine work fine for me.
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Other than maybe a bit more adjustability and some more leverage, why change out the factory items? Just curious as mine work fine for me.
If designed anywhere near as good as Pazzo Levers not only do you get more adjustabilty you get a tighter fit and overall feel as they have less slop in them. Plus they look good ok....
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I agree they do look good.
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Other than maybe a bit more adjustability and some more leverage, why change out the factory items? Just curious as mine work fine for me.
My stockers worked well too. The forward edge of these levers are wider and flat compared to the stock levers. They have a very nice feel to them. The feed back from the brake lever is greater than stock. Of course I'm running braided S/S lines and ZRX 6 pot calipers so that set up is a totally different world by it self!
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I got some and the hole where the pin goes into was too small and it made the clutch slip. That was two months ago and I am too lazy to bore the hole out bigger.
Make sure yours is ok, it looks fine until you do a WOT, then you will know
Hopefully yours is ok
That's strange. The only thing I had to do was grease the screw head bolt body and transfer the brass barrel from the stock clutch lever (the pin from the Resivior fits in it) and tighten the nut on the lower side. 10 min tops.
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I have them too, and am also very happy with them. Exactly the same as a pair of ridiculously priced Pazzos I had on a VStrom.
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I have them too, and am also very happy with them. Exactly the same as a pair of ridiculously priced Pazzos I had on a VStrom.
Hey, ATC Buckeye. I'm coming back home to Ohio on Thursday June 9th. Final destination is Akron/Cuyahoga Falls. Bummer is I gota drive my van :-[. Any chance of meeting up say early afternoon?
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Any preference between shorty nad standard size??
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That's strange. The only thing I had to do was grease the screw head bolt body and transfer the brass barrel from the stock clutch lever (the pin from the Resivior fits in it) and tighten the nut on the lower side. 10 min tops.
Chinese quality control, or lack there of
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Any preference between shorty nad standard size??
If you don't mind using 2 fingers then the shorty work great. I had shorties on my sport bike, but got the regular for the C14. Some people prefer the shorty for brake and long for clutch
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The listing is for the late model connie, does anybody know if they will fit the early bikes? I have an 86 that's not adjustable and I have relatively short fingers, so being able to adjusdt them closer to the bar would be a big help for me.
Thanks
Rob
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I bought a set yesterday the same colors as you did. I will let you know how it goes. The price is so low if they dont work I can toss them.
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The listing is for the late model connie, does anybody know if they will fit the early bikes? I have an 86 that's not adjustable and I have relatively short fingers, so being able to adjusdt them closer to the bar would be a big help for me.
Thanks
Rob
Yes they are interchangable between all years; many early model bikes would get their levers changed out for later models so that they could have adjustable levers.
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Yes they are interchangable between all years; many early model bikes would get their levers changed out for later models so that they could have adjustable levers.
Thank you Mr. Stick and Shifter man! ;D
That's the good news I wanted to here!
Regards
Mr. Stubby Fingers
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If you don't mind using 2 fingers then the shorty work great. I had shorties on my sport bike, but got the regular for the C14. Some people prefer the shorty for brake and long for clutch
That's what I run with my Pazzo's
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I just received my set directly from Hong Kong...I have a set of real Pazzo levers on my other bike (sv 650), but did not feel like dropping 179.00 right now, so Chinese it is. They ended up being 44.00 total.
I bought silver levers with black adjustors since its very hard for people to mess up the color. Both sets feel great. I doubt I coudl tell the difference in a blind test. If anything, the tolerances on the knock-off levers feel better. Less play and extremely crisp adjustments.
I'd love to see the country of origin from other high-end levers. I'm guessing several may be from china and re-branded.
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I've had my levers for a couple weeks now and like them alot more than stock. I got the black with red adjusters for my 02.
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I've had my levers for a couple weeks now and like them alot more than stock. I got the black with red adjusters for my 02.
I got the same colors and they arrived last week. Kinda fun because I forgot I had ordered them it was so long ago. I guess I am getting old enough now to wrap my own xmas gifts and still be surprised when I open them.
I put mine on yesterday. They look very nice and feel great. No issues with installation.
Thanks Tele130 for sharing.
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+1
got mine and they are pretty slick, better feel than stockers
Thanks for the heads up on these
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OMG !!! I guess I'll jump on the band wagon too...... :chugbeer:
Cheers
Ron
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Ron, I think you'll be surprised at the quality level. I had them off the bike and the real Pazzo's from my sv 650 and compared the two.
I ended up making a mongrel set using the hong kong (egg foo yung brand???) inside pieces that mount to the master cylinder and the pazzo lever sections. These went on the concours. The pazzo insides and hong kong levers went on the 650. The dimensions matched up within a few thousandths, so what the heck. The originals may be a little smoother with regards to the adjustment lever. Plus, the Concours deserved the Pazzo logo more than the 650 did.
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I got the same colors and they arrived last week. Kinda fun because I forgot I had ordered them it was so long ago. I guess I am getting old enough now to wrap my own xmas gifts and still be surprised when I open them. :rotflmao: (You and me both brother :chugbeer:) I put mine on yesterday. They look very nice and feel great. No issues with installation.
Thanks Tele130 for sharing.
No problem. Glad eveyone likes'm so far. I just did my first long ride since getting my Connie (1,070 miles). There's something about the blocked leading edge of the lever that just feels so comfortable.
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I just ordered mine today. ;)
Cheers
Ron
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I also got free shipping, too.
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The Busa guys have given them the thumbs up too
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I think I'll sell mine. The quality is fine, they work well. However, my banged up hands just fit better on the stockers. Let me know if anyone is interested in a full length model for the c14. Silver levers, black adjustor, and black inner section.
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I seemed to have found an issue with my new Chinese clutch lever and I wanted to make sure it was not just me.
It seems there is not enough play left over and the master cylinder was holding the clutch open just enough to slip on hard throttle.
I put the old lever back in and it fixed the problem.
To fix this I will have to shave down (remove material) from the 2 flat surfaces, the stop and the flat part that contacts the switch.
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I haven't noticed that problem. Could it be that my bike is still new (just turned 10k) and the switch on the clutch hasn't worn as much? Than again, I really haven't ridden my Connie very hard. Did that on the ZRX ;D. I'll take her out for a run and check it out. Thanks for the heads up.
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You should always have a little inward play on the clutch lever before contacting the starting of the release of the clutch
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!! Look at what I got today. I'll go for a ride later to see if all is good.
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j419/mayhem47/allsorts182.jpg)
Cheers
Ron
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Well everything worked as advertised. No problem with the breake or clutch. I like the feel on the adjustment range. Well worth it. :thumbs:
Cheers
Ron
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I ground off almost a 1/16" off the stops surface on the new lever and I now have play on the clutch side just like the original lever has.
I don't know why mine is so different but I am glad I found the problem
Make sure you guys check yours out or you will burn out your clutch plates over time.
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I seemed to have found an issue with my new Chinese clutch lever and I wanted to make sure it was not just me.
It seems there is not enough play left over and the master cylinder was holding the clutch open just enough to slip on hard throttle.
I put the old lever back in and it fixed the problem.
To fix this I will have to shave down (remove material) from the 2 flat surfaces, the stop and the flat part that contacts the switch.
Mine is a C14
I had the same problem. Mine was the hole the pin fits in was too small for the pin and it kept some pressure on the clutch where it slipped at WOT. I took mine to my work (a machine shop) and had one of the guys bore out and deepen the hole that the pin fits in. I haven't tried it yet to see if that fixes the problem, but I will tonight after I put new brake pads on.
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I had the same problem. Mine was the hole the pin fits in was too small for the pin and it kept some pressure on the clutch where it slipped at WOT. I took mine to my work (a machine shop) and had one of the guys bore out and deepen the hole that the pin fits in. I haven't tried it yet to see if that fixes the problem, but I will tonight after I put new brake pads on.
I see you have C14.
On a C10 the part with the pin hole is separate and did not come with the new lever. I used the one from the old lever.
So anyone reading this should be checking their new levers for these issues.
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I see you have C14.
On a C10 the part with the pin hole is separate and did not come with the new lever. I used the one from the old lever.
So anyone reading this should be checking their new levers for these issues.
With these knock-off levers the feel on the clutch is exactly the same as the stock set-up. Only differance is the feel of the lever. Thanks for the heads up Mike :thumbs:. I'll keep a closer eye on it.
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Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!! Look at what I got today. I'll go for a ride later to see if all is good.
(http://i1084.photobucket.com/albums/j419/mayhem47/allsorts182.jpg)
Cheers
Ron
You got fancy bags and everything. Mine were just wraped in bubble wrap with tags and placed in the box. ;D
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I had the same problem. Mine was the hole the pin fits in was too small for the pin and it kept some pressure on the clutch where it slipped at WOT. I took mine to my work (a machine shop) and had one of the guys bore out and deepen the hole that the pin fits in. I haven't tried it yet to see if that fixes the problem, but I will tonight after I put new brake pads on.
Mine is a C14
Well enlarging the hole didn't work and the clutch still slipped at WOT so I took of the chinese POS levers and back to stock. Chalk this up to a learning experience.
Anybody want them for $30 shipped let me know. Long, black with red adjusters
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Well everything worked as advertised. No problem with the breake or clutch. I like the feel on the adjustment range. Well worth it. :thumbs:
Cheers
Ron
Oops mine is a C14
Did you let the bike get nice and warmed up and do a couple of WOT runs to make sure the clutch didn't slip
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COGnosticat0r / Jerry :
Is your application that has not worked a C14 or a C10 ??? ?
If a C14, please go back and edit all your posts to make this very clear .... this is a C10 sub-forum section and your bad experience may not be at all valid for the C10 application of this product. Not tryin' to be horsey, just don't want any C10'ers that drop-in late to be mislead by your posts.
Apples vs Oranges, ya know ;)
Everyone that is posting about the C10 application seems to like the result.
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COGnosticat0r / Jerry :
Is your application that has not worked a C14 or a C10 ??? ?
If a C14, please go back and edit all your posts to make this very clear .... this is a C10 sub-forum section and your bad experience may not be at all valid for the C10 application of this product. Not tryin' to be horsey, just don't want any C10'ers that drop-in late to be mislead by your posts.
Apples vs Oranges, ya know ;)
Everyone that is posting about the C10 application seems to like the result.
We have confirmed that both the C10 AND the C14 have this same issue so yes, very relevant to this thread.
Other C10 riders may not be aware of the issue but need to be aware so they can be on the look out.
A stock Connie @76 hp may not notice the slip in the clutch at WOT but mine is 100hp and a C14 at 133 would be even more noticeable.
In either case make sure you have that tiny bit of play when you first pull the clutch lever in or you could burn your clutch plates out over time.
COGnosticat0r why not try shaving some material from the flat- stop section of the lever. That worked for me.
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COGnosticat0r / Jerry :
Is your application that has not worked a C14 or a C10 ??? ?
Crap, when I log on I click on the "Show unread posts since last visit" and didn't notice it was for the C10 forum.
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Did you let the bike get nice and warmed up and do a couple of WOT runs to make sure the clutch didn't slip
Yes I sure did, all the way to red line, the cluches grabbed thru the whole RPM range. no slippage.
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Crap, when I log on I click on the "Show unread posts since last visit" and didn't notice it was for the C10 forum.
Hey, no worries Jerry, I'm just tryin to keep the info straight because of my own interest in these levers for my C10. When I get my brake upgrade done I may consider the 2-finger shorty for the right hand with the long match for the left.
Bummer that they don't work for your C14, but thanks for clarifying :chugbeer:
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C10 here, all the way through the RPM range, no slippage, perfect. Highly recommended.