Kawasaki Concours Forum
The C-14, aka Kawasaki Concours-14, the new one :) => The Bike - C14/GTR 1400 => Topic started by: YtseJam on July 28, 2012, 08:39:13 PM
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Hey all....decided to make the move into the Sport-Touring dark side.;) After looking at several different bikes, I've settled on the Concours. I've been riding for over 35 years, own a few bikes, so this isn't my first ride. I know that I would like a post 2008 model, but am trying to educate myself on potential weaknesses, preferred years..etc. I would rather go used, not too many around! The Concours will be replacing a BMW RT, so any help or direction you can give would be greatly appreciated!
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If you have the means, keep in mind that Kawasaki redesigned and greatly improved the Concours line using many suggestions from pre '10 owners. I personally would not consider something before 2010. That being said, there are many very happy pre '10 owners here, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.
From '11 on, ABS is standard.
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Be carefull of the whole "Dark Side" term no car tires on a Connie. I have a an 08 and I prefer the styling of the 08-09 to the newer ones. That is subjective, and you may have a different opinion. The 08-09 do not have linked brakes and may of may not be an ABS bike. The 10 and beyond were (I think) there were issues with heat on the legs in the 08-09 that caused the fairing changes, I don't mind it and I always wear boots and pants. The newer models are moving towards the touring half of sport-touring, adding heated grips, ABS, Traction control, locking storage area, (about the size of what you can fit in your pocket but you lose the center storage) A taller windscreen, linked brakes(a lot of people don't like that change)....I like the Coucours because it is the most sport like in its makeup. The FJR and ST1300 are too focused on the touring aspect for my liking. You will need to adjust to the height of the bike but that is the same no matter what year you get.
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Be carefull of the whole "Dark Side" term no car tires on a Connie. I have a an 08 and I prefer the styling of the 08-09 to the newer ones. That is subjective, and you may have a different opinion. The 08-09 do not have linked brakes and may of may not be an ABS bike. The 10 and beyond were (I think) there were issues with heat on the legs in the 08-09 that caused the fairing changes, I don't mind it and I always wear boots and pants. The newer models are moving towards the touring half of sport-touring, adding heated grips, ABS, Traction control, locking storage area, (about the size of what you can fit in your pocket but you lose the center storage) A taller windscreen, linked brakes(a lot of people don't like that change)....I like the Coucours because it is the most sport like in its makeup. The FJR and ST1300 are too focused on the touring aspect for my liking. You will need to adjust to the height of the bike but that is the same no matter what year you get.
Thought the same thought when he mentioned dark side (car tire). I have a '10 so I am biased toward the next gen Connie. But the added features for the buck did it for me. The FJ and the ST cost more for less. All comes down to how you ride and what you want. If you get a chance to test drive the three, I sure would take it.
Whatever you choose this forum is a great educational archive with a bunch of great people!
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The Beemer has ABS, so I've gotten used to that. I also looked at the FJR, but the styling and motor made up my mind in favor of the Kawi. There are a few 08's around my area, one with 59k..which is a little high for me, but not too many newer. I'll would rather pay a little more and get what I need to then regret it! I saw a '12 this afternoon, they wanted 16k and some change. The 08's I've seen average from 7500-8500. Let me clarify my "Dark Side" comment, I never thought I would be looking at a touring bike...have Harley's, a Chopper and Sportbikes, so this is all new to me! The BMW is just something to run errands on...not really go on any extended trips.:)
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Go with a 10+. It's worth paying a bit more for the improvements. Stay away from the black bikes, though. If you're cheap, go with the 08/09s. You'll get your best deals with them, especially if they are radically farkled out.
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If that "A" in your avatar is not Alaska, get a 2010 or later. The earlier models put off more heat, much more I think. I went cheap and bought a 2009, but then I live in Oregon.
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Stay away from the black bikes, though.
:yikes:
(http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/kdfkjfew.gif)
If you're cheap, go with the 08/09s. You'll get your best deals with them, especially if they are radically farkled out.
Not sure I've seen one of those Sparky... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/confused1.gif) (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/smiley_dunno.gif)
Happy hunting YJ, check out the black 12 I posted in the classifieds... :thumbs: :thumbs: :chugbeer:
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Ytsejam,
If you're a Costco member they'll negotiate a new Connie for 13.6k plus fees I believe.
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Ytsejam,
If you're a Costco member they'll negotiate a new Connie for 13.6k plus fees I believe.
Might be time to get a Costco membership! That's a pretty good price...
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If that "A" in your avatar is not Alaska, get a 2010 or later. The earlier models put off more heat, much more I think. I went cheap and bought a 2009, but then I live in Oregon.
It's Auburn Alabama, but stuck here in California...so heat is DEFINATELY an issue out here. I appreciate all the input! Looks like the 10's and above are worth the extra scratch....
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Happy hunting YJ, check out the black 12 I posted in the classifieds... :thumbs: :thumbs: :chugbeer:
Nice bike! Unfortunately the bike nazi's out here require all out of state vehicles have at least 7500 mile before they can be registered here.:(
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If you have the means, keep in mind that Kawasaki redesigned and greatly improved the Concours line using many suggestions from pre '10 owners. I personally would not consider something before 2010. That being said, there are many very happy pre '10 owners here, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.
From '11 on, ABS is standard.
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redesigned? greatly improved? you mean close 2 gaps in the fairing and raise the mirrors by an irrelevant amount to a just-as-useless-as-before position? Wow. Just: wow.
Don't take it personally. I just don't want somebody dismissing a previous year model and paying a premium for something that offers next to naught over an '08 or '09 model. And yes, I tried it extensively. Bags still well on sight and no heat on the thighs, just like my '08.
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redesigned? greatly improved?
I agree. I would call the 2nd gen "refined." There are about a dozen nice improvements.
you mean close 2 gaps in the fairing and raise the mirrors by an irrelevant amount to a just-as-useless-as-before position?
Well, a lot more than that: And adjustable heated grips, and a taller windshield, and a white backlighting on the dash instead of that horrible yellow, and linked brakes, and traction control, and ABS standard (on 11+), and handlebar computer controls, and an electronically locking glovebox, and a heat shield on the exhaust pipe, and a slightly refined muffler, and an improved seat (cushion), and a monotone seat cover, and ECO mode for fuel savings, and additional dash display features, and a small passive RFID spare fob. I am sure I missed something.
I would absolutely go for a 2nd gen if possible, but it is not like the 1st gen is a totally different bike- they are the exact same engine, top-end, injection, height, steering, frame, wheels, suspension, drivetrain, etc.
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I agree. I would call the 2nd gen "refined." There are about a dozen nice improvements.
Well, a lot more than that: And adjustable heated grips, and a taller windshield, and a white backlighting on the dash instead of that horrible yellow, and linked brakes, and traction control, and ABS standard (on 11+), and handlebar computer controls, and an electronically locking glovebox, and a heat shield on the exhaust pipe, and a slightly refined muffler, and an improved seat (cushion), and a monotone seat cover, and ECO mode for fuel savings, and additional dash display features, and a small passive RFID spare fob. I am sure I missed something.
I would absolutely go for a 2nd gen if possible, but it is not like the 1st gen is a totally different bike- they are the exact same engine, top-end, injection, height, steering, frame, wheels, suspension, drivetrain, etc.
To hear most guys talking about the linked brakes, it's hardly an improvement.
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To hear most guys talking about the linked brakes, it's hardly an improvement.
Could be either. Safe to call it "a change".
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In fact, the original Kwak C14 design team was dead set against linked brakes.
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Jam: I too made the switch from an RT (2004 1150) to the Connie (2012). You didn't ask, but here are the most striking differences I noticed: 1. Weight: The Connie is much heavier and carries its mass higher. 2. Brakes: No more twitchy "power" brakes, thankgod. 3. Engine; Whole new level of power, and the Connie doesn't shake at stoplights. 4. Transmission: Lower first gear makes Connie much easier to launch from a stop. 5. Handling: RT is nimbler, easier to flick, but Connie is every bit as steady once you muscle it over.
Jim
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If you have the means, keep in mind that Kawasaki redesigned and greatly improved the Concours line using many suggestions from pre '10 owners. I personally would not consider something before 2010. That being said, there are many very happy pre '10 owners here, so take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.
From '11 on, ABS is standard.
No good reason to think that way, and the pre 2010 models work just fine. ;)
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(http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx181/Simon_Gardner/coffeespit.gif)
redesigned? greatly improved? you mean close 2 gaps in the fairing and raise the mirrors by an irrelevant amount to a just-as-useless-as-before position? Wow. Just: wow.
Don't take it personally. I just don't want somebody dismissing a previous year model and paying a premium for something that offers next to naught over an '08 or '09 model. And yes, I tried it extensively. Bags still well on sight and no heat on the thighs, just like my '08.
The 2010 and up has allot of changes that owners and potential customers were wanting and looking for......Kawasaki delivered IMHO. 8) That being said....I am more than pleased with my good ole 2008. :thumbs:
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Jam: I too made the switch from an RT (2004 1150) to the Connie (2012). You didn't ask, but here are the most striking differences I noticed: 1. Weight: The Connie is much heavier and carries its mass higher. 2. Brakes: No more twitchy "power" brakes, thankgod. 3. Engine; Whole new level of power, and the Connie doesn't shake at stoplights. 4. Transmission: Lower first gear makes Connie much easier to launch from a stop. 5. Handling: RT is nimbler, easier to flick, but Connie is every bit as steady once you muscle it over.
Jim
I could tell a difference between the two just by swinging my leg over it. It took me a while to get used to the bike leaning to the right when you would give it some throttle at a standstill! The power difference will be ridiculous, but you're correct about the handling....it's probably the best handling bike I've owned or even ridden. Really looking forward to getting the 14....:), I like the BMW, but the 14 will be much more suited for what I want.
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"adjustable heated grips"
I would absolutely go for a 2nd gen if possible, but it is not like the 1st gen is a totally different bike- they are the exact same engine, top-end, injection, height, steering, frame, wheels, suspension, drivetrain, etc.
I couldn't believe the difference heated grips make....almost mandatory for a touring bike for me. What I have noticed is that several of the pre-10's for sale have after market grips.
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I couldn't believe the difference heated grips make....almost mandatory for a touring bike for me. What I have noticed is that several of the pre-10's for sale have after market grips.
I had my dealer install the 2011 OEM heated grips on my 2009.
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I had my dealer install the 2011 OEM heated grips on my 2009.
I would either do that, or get some aftermarket ones.....a must!
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I had my dealer install the 2011 OEM heated grips on my 2009.
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If you don't mind, what did that cost you? I live in Wisconsin and it may be a good thing to have if I don't have to sell my home to get them.
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Not to sure how important the heated grips are. Living in Alaska I have rode my Concours in temperatures in the low 50's since buying her and never felt the need to even turn the grips on yet. If you are riding in temperatures ranging from 30-40F they might be useful. I just wear light riding gloves and my hands are fine.
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If you don't mind, what did that cost you? I live in Wisconsin and it may be a good thing to have if I don't have to sell my home to get them.
It seems like it was something like $3-400 installed. It took them awhile to get it right.
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I had an 08 that I loved, but could never go back after owning toe 2010. And I too am one of the guys that hates the linked brakes. I love everything else though. I don't think I'll ever own a bike without heated grips again. I still believe the 2010 and up deflect more rain water on the highway. I still get wet, but less wet than the 08. They are all great bikes though. You'll enjoy any of them.
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In fact, the original Kwak C14 design team was dead set against linked brakes.
can some one explain to me what linked brakes means? Without knowing i would say that the brake line for the front and rear are connected tothe same master?
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can some one explain to me what linked brakes means? Without knowing i would say that the brake line for the front and rear are connected tothe same master?
My understanding of it is the hand brake (normally the front brake) works 2 out of the 3 pistons on the front brakes and one of the two pistons on the rear. The foot brake (normally the rear brake) works one piston on both front and rear.
This is my understanding of the system. I could be way wrong though.
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Not to sure how important the heated grips are. Living in Alaska I have rode my Concours in temperatures in the low 50's since buying her and never felt the need to even turn the grips on yet. If you are riding in temperatures ranging from 30-40F they might be useful. I just wear light riding gloves and my hands are fine.
Low 50s in Alaska? Brrrr! ;)
How about low 20s in Illinois? I don't have heated grips but I do have hand air deflectors that I love.
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The 2010 and up has allot of changes that owners and potential customers were wanting and looking for......Kawasaki delivered IMHO. 8) That being said....I am more than pleased with my good ole 2008. :thumbs:
about what I meant. Of all the changes, none of them justifies steering away from pre-'10 models. Screen can be changed, heated grips installed and gap in the fairing closed. Until chassis and powertrain are changed, it remains the same bike.
Going from an RT to a Concours (as I did) and stopping to look at minimal differences in the model year, is like switching to an F-15 from a donkey, and asking if it has MP3 player... ::)
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I have a 2010 with 36,000 miles on it. Before the Concours I had a FJR1300, before that an ST1300 (I also currently own a Goldwing and a Ninja 1000). Here are my thoughts...
Linked brakes - linked brakes are fine if they are set up right. I have had three Hondas and a Yamaha with linked brakes and they were seamless. My 2010 Concours linked brakes suck. People are saying linked brakes are bad. I disagree. But on my bike they suck because they were poorly implemented. I have heard other who complain about them as well. The fix for me is to not use the rear brake. That is when there is a problem is when you try to use both the front and rear brake together. The rears are very "grabby".
Heat. I rode a 2009 and definitely felt heat on my lower legs (I wear tall riding boots too). My 2010 puts out no heat. I would not buy a pre 2010.
Otherwise it's all about how you like the bike and how if fits you.
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I had all the answers for you. But with that avatar, sorry, can't help you!
ROLL TIDE!!!!
Ha ha
;D ;)
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Going from an RT to a Concours (as I did) and stopping to look at minimal differences in the model year, is like switching to an F-15 from a donkey, and asking if it has MP3 player... ::)
I'm beginning to get that impression....kinda sums it up!
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Heat. I rode a 2009 and definitely felt heat on my lower legs (I wear tall riding boots too). My 2010 puts out no heat. I would not buy a pre 2010.
Otherwise it's all about how you like the bike and how if fits you.
I sat on one Saturday and it felt great, similar to the RT which is perfect for me...very impressed. Sounds like the heat issue may be a problem depending on the rider, not sure though is that would be enough to steer me away from a killer deal on a pre-10.
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Should higher mileage bikes be a concern? As I said towards the beginning, there is one around here with 59k....I personally thought that was little high? Although my RT currently has 85K and runs like new.
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I had all the answers for you. But with that avatar, sorry, can't help you!
ROLL TIDE!!!!
Ha ha
;D ;)
:battle:
Jealousy is so ugly.....;)
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I was in the same situation as the OP a couple months ago. I was certain I wanted a 2010 or later for the reasons posted. I was just waiting to find one for a decent price. I was then contacted by someone selling a 2009 nicely farkled. I replied that I wanted ABS and heated grips and better heat mgt. He replied his 2009 had abs, heated grips and the foam panels installed in the fairing and tank pads which all helped greatly. He then listed everything else the bike had..... Murphs loewer pegs, risers, shims, a chopped stock shield, tall 2010 shield, throttlemeister, Area P slip on, PCV, Sargent seat, Phils rack w/ givi..... and only 14k miles. I looked over some pics and it was in showroom condition. I would have outfitted any 2010 or newer almost exactly like this which would be $$$ and I got it for what I consider to be a steal. The Candy Diamond Red grew on me and I'm glad I got the bike. I've ridden in 100 deg and yeah the bike gets warm.... but only in traffic and stop lights, but it's not unbearable and what I expected from such a nuclear reactor between your thighs and I always wear mesh pants and boots in Summer anyhow. I see it as saving thousands and maybe the 2010 or 11 would be 5% better of a bike, but I couldn't resist the value of this 2009 with all the add ons so my vote would be for finding an 08 or 09 heavily farkled for some serious value.
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I was in the same situation as the OP a couple months ago. I was certain I wanted a 2010 or later for the reasons posted. I was just waiting to find one for a decent price. I was then contacted by someone selling a 2009 nicely farkled. I replied that I wanted ABS and heated grips and better heat mgt. He replied his 2009 had abs, heated grips and the foam panels installed in the fairing and tank pads which all helped greatly. He then listed everything else the bike had..... Murphs loewer pegs, risers, shims, a chopped stock shield, tall 2010 shield, throttlemeister, Area P slip on, PCV, Sargent seat, Phils rack w/ givi..... and only 14k miles. I looked over some pics and it was in showroom condition. I would have outfitted any 2010 or newer almost exactly like this which would be $$$ and I got it for what I consider to be a steal. The Candy Diamond Red grew on me and I'm glad I got the bike. I've ridden in 100 deg and yeah the bike gets warm.... but only in traffic and stop lights, but it's not unbearable and what I expected from such a nuclear reactor between your thighs and I always wear mesh pants and boots in Summer anyhow. I see it as saving thousands and maybe the 2010 or 11 would be 5% better of a bike, but I couldn't resist the value of this 2009 with all the add ons so my vote would be for finding an 08 or 09 heavily farkled for some serious value.
Thanks some great info....appreciate the post!
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Martin.... :rotflmao: Donkey to an F-15..I like that.
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I found this (http://stockton.craigslist.org/mcy/3158637907.html) one, mileage is a concern though....
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I found this (http://stockton.craigslist.org/mcy/3158637907.html) one, mileage is a concern though....
Hmmm... my 09 wasn't much more than that and prob has $1500-1800 more in farkles and less than 1/4 the miles. Could have integrated the grip controller nicer into the fairing.... and what is that.... a glob of snot holding the wire in place coming off the grip controller. The price isn't bad, it's just that there should be a lot of 08 C-14s in the ballpark with many having much lower miles and more upgrades than this example.
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Hmmm... my 09 wasn't much more than that and prob has $1500-1800 more in farkles and less than 1/4 the miles. Could have integrated the grip controller nicer into the fairing.... and what is that.... a glob of snot holding the wire in place coming off the grip controller. The price isn't bad, it's just that there should be a lot of 08 C-14s in the ballpark with many having much lower miles and more upgrades than this example.
Kinda where I was leaning...thanks!
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I found this (http://stockton.craigslist.org/mcy/3158637907.html) one, mileage is a concern though....
Lot of miles and no ABS for that price IMO... Sure the bike can go many more miles, but I've seen tons with alot less miles and ABS for that price...
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Lot of miles and no ABS for that price IMO... Sure the bike can go many more miles, but I've seen tons with alot less miles and ABS for that price...
What attracted me to it was the extras, but you're right.
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That's not a lot of extras... many of those can be picked up used individually.
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Do you want farkles or a specific year bike? It would be great to have both and of course in the color you want but IMHO..... focus should be on the bike, you can always add the extras to your liking later on.
Either way, don't miss out on some good riding weather and get something soon!
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Here's a nice looking example from this side of the country I found through Craigslist. From the pics I see ABS, Seat, exhaust, windshield, top box, risers, tank bra (yuck)... ridiculously low miles at a nice price!!
http://www.hannumshdchaddsford.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=261848 (http://www.hannumshdchaddsford.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=261848)
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tank bra (yuck)...
And I was just contemplating putting this one I picked up in the UK for sale as it is not for my 08. May take it down to the MotoGP in Indy and see if I can get my money back out of it....or just keep it till I wear this 08 out and have to replace it. Not everyone may share that disdain for the bra. I will get the correct one when I go back over but I think it only comes in black for my year.
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/419647_10150510403220098_1489548006_n.jpg)
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Do you want farkles or a specific year bike? It would be great to have both and of course in the color you want but IMHO..... focus should be on the bike, you can always add the extras to your liking later on.
You're right...both! Some great advice here, and thanks again to everyone who is taking the time to chime in...extremely helpful! I know more of what I don't want than what I want, and that's a short list. After reading the responses here, I really don't have a set criteria, other than what we all look for and that's a good deal.
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Here's a nice looking example from this side of the country I found through Craigslist. From the pics I see ABS, Seat, exhaust, windshield, top box, risers, tank bra (yuck)... ridiculously low miles at a nice price!!
http://www.hannumshdchaddsford.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=261848 (http://www.hannumshdchaddsford.com/default.asp?page=xPreOwnedInventoryDetail&id=261848)
That would be a sold bike if it were around here.....another (http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/mcd/3072220910.html) possibility.
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Just sold the Beemer this afternoon.....look out. ;D
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Just sold the Beemer this afternoon.....look out. ;D
Happy hunting YJ! :chugbeer:
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Happy hunting YJ! :chugbeer:
Thanks! I'm finding there is quite a swing in prices. I found a 2009...for 12K :o ....still scratching my head on that one.
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Thanks! I'm finding there is quite a swing in prices. I found a 2009...for 12K :o ....still scratching my head on that one.
You should be able to do better on a 2009 if that's the direction, I paid less than $11 in January of last year.
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Thanks! I'm finding there is quite a swing in prices. I found a 2009...for 12K :o ....still scratching my head on that one.
:o ???
I only paid $10.6 OTD for my brand new 09 ABS in October of 2010...
What mods does that $12k 09 have?
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Yes, I should have mentioned, mine is an ABS as well.
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:o ???
I only paid $10.6 OTD for my brand new 09 ABS in October of 2010...
We'll see how bad he wants to sell it....maybe it's the heat?
Nice bike though...same here, ABS as well.
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We'll see how bad he wants to sell it....maybe it's the heat?
Nice bike though...same here, ABS as well.
Leo slip-on and Corbin smuggler = $1k...
Any other mods? (windscreen and TM doesn't count...)
Miles??
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Let's see....gel seat, lowered 2", pegs down 1", bars up 1.5", 2 more windshields...10K miles.
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Let's see....gel seat, lowered 2", pegs down 1", bars up 1.5", 2 more windshields...10K miles.
Used?
You should pay well under $11, likely under $10. With those mods you don't even know if that's the best fit now, stock might be better.
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Let's see....gel seat, lowered 2", pegs down 1", bars up 1.5", 2 more windshields...10K miles.
Ok, add another $300 for the seat... But the rest of those are all cheap mods, he's high at that price IMO... (http://i1200.photobucket.com/albums/bb336/jaywilcox/sjdhquwye.gif)
That's a nice $10k value bike though IMO...
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That's a nice $10k value bike though IMO...
Agreed...too funny, that's what I threw at him!
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We'll see how bad he wants to sell it....maybe it's the heat?
Nice bike though...same here, ABS as well.
Now that is a nice bike for sure. 12K though.... they're out of their mind. Retail is prob 9K ish then some allowance for add ons.... and that's retail. Here's mine I picked up in June, just as clean and more add ons... 14k miles and much, much cheaper!
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Never thought I would even consider a red one....but they're definately growing on me! That's nice...
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Used?
You should pay well under $11, likely under $10. With those mods you don't even know if that's the best fit now, stock might be better.
That's a good point. On my newly acquired 09 I already sold the throttlemeister and the Murph's pegs are next providing this weekends 400-500 miles feel better than last weekends with the Murph's. I find the stock ones a better position for my knees gripping the tank and my knee angle is more straight on the stock pegs also.
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Agreed...too funny, that's what I threw at him!
I just looked at your profile YJ and see that you're in CA... Make sure to do your homework on buying any out of state bikes, I know I've seen others on here mention that CA is not all that forgiving on bringing out of state bikes into CA (probably because all CA folks are not quite right)... ;)
Just make sure you know the rules bro before you start searching out of state, CA is like another planet for emissions... :chugbeer:
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Never thought I would even consider a red one....but they're definately growing on me! That's nice...
That's what I said.... "Red.... I don't know man".... then the 1st day I saw it the sun was gleaming and I couldn't believe how much flake popped. Looks amazing in the sun, and now I love my red C-14.... who da thunk.
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I just looked at your profile YJ and see that you're in CA... Make sure to do your homework on buying any out of state bikes, I know I've seen others on here mention that CA is not all that forgiving on bringing out of state bikes into CA (probably because all CA folks are not quite right)... ;)
Just make sure you know the rules bro before you start searching out of state, CA is like another planet for emissions... :chugbeer:
Appreciate that...and VERY familiar with it. The bike has to have at least 7500 miles to be registered here. They're are a few exceptions, like having to replace a vehicle while out-of-state, I think inheritance..etc. I just bought a 2005 RC51 that was originally purchased in San Jose, but registered in Oregon. Eventhough it was a California bike, it was still a major hassle...which included a trip to the CHP office to verify the VIN.
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That's what I said.... "Red.... I don't know man".... then the 1st day I saw it the sun was gleaming and I couldn't believe how much flake popped. Looks amazing in the sun, and now I love my red C-14.... who da thunk.
Have yet to see one in person, but I think that's a technicality.... ;)
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Appreciate that...and VERY familiar with it. The bike has to have at least 7500 miles to be registered here. They're are a few exceptions, like having to replace a vehicle while out-of-state, I think inheritance..etc. I just bought a 2005 RC51 that was originally purchased in San Jose, but registered in Oregon. Eventhough it was a California bike, it was still a major hassle...which included a trip to the CHP office to verify the VIN.
Die Hard - John McClane loves California (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WqTJsUgCXk#ws)
;D ;D ;D
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If you compare that with the other crap we have to deal with out here...sometimes it's a toss-up whether it's worth it, and trust me...they don't ALL look like that. :o
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If you compare that with the other crap we have to deal with out here...sometimes it's a toss-up whether it's worth it, and trust me...they don't ALL look like that. :o
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Indeed bro, I'm down there at least once every other month... :chugbeer:
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Indeed bro, I'm down there at least once every other month... :chugbeer:
I hear it's a nice place to "visit"..... :-X
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Lot of miles and no ABS for that price IMO... Sure the bike can go many more miles, but I've seen tons with alot less miles and ABS for that price...
I had been in contact with the seller, he decided to drop the price to 7K.....
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I like the Candy Diamond Red, but I guess I may be a little biased 8)
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/03.jpg)
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc110/2007electraroad/DSC02561.jpg)
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I had been in contact with the seller, he decided to drop the price to 7K.....
Did you pull the trigger?
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Still thinking.....
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Still thinking.....
7K? What's to think about? You must not have taken it for a test drive yet ... ;)
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Heading up there tomorrow to take a closer look, about a 2 hour trip.
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What city is it in?
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What city is it in?
Outside Sacramento....
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If you compare that with the other crap we have to deal with out here...sometimes it's a toss-up whether it's worth it, and trust me... they don't ALL look like that. :o
You got that right. "California Dreaming"?
Girls On Bikes Fail Compilation 2011 || YDL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjqvLAs9t1Q#)
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Well, I was gonna offer to go up there with you to look at it, but I'm about 500 miles south.
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Well, I was gonna offer to go up there with you to look at it, but I'm about 500 miles south.
Really appreciate that! I'm in Fresno, so a little closer!
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One thing I'm beginning to notice with some sellers of these bikes is the stripping off of extras after a listing. I've been in contact with 4 sellers, 2 of them had ads with pictures that showed all kinds of farkles that would have made them "almost" worth the price they were asking, only to find out that they are not included in the sale...then why show them?? The third one finally got back to me with one word answers to what I thought were pretty basic questions, and the fourth keeps bugging me. I have lost count of the number of bikes I've bought, but this is new to me.
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I would only guess that they originally wanted to sell everything together, but after having it for sale and not moving they lowered the price and sold the Farkles separate. However they should update the photo. Plane tickets are relatively cheap and maybe the seller would split the cost for a 1 way ticket, I have seen SEVERAL for sale here and on the other forum. Nice ones at that, expand your search area and ride that sucker home.
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I would only guess that they originally wanted to sell everything together, but after having it for sale and not moving they lowered the price and sold the Farkles separate. However they should update the photo. Plane tickets are relatively cheap and maybe the seller would split the cost for a 1 way ticket, I have seen SEVERAL for sale here and on the other forum. Nice ones at that, expand your search area and ride that sucker home.
They flat out stated that the farkles are currently on there, but will be removed upon sale. I don't mind traveling at all, over half the vehicles I buy are out of the area....pretty much planned on that!
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Still in the game...the one up north didn't pan out, but I was contacted by a seller that I had replied to a couple weeks ago. It's an 08, only add-on is a Cee-Bailey's windshield, 9k miles and may get it for 7K.
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Looks like I may have found the "one"...a 2011 with 2800 miles. Is the factory warranty transferable?
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Looks like I may have found the "one"...a 2011 with 2800 miles. Is the factory warranty transferable?
Yes, it can be transferred to a new owner. You can even buy the extended factory warranty for 3 or 6 more years. Yes, that's right, 9 years of factory warranty can be had on these bikes. http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=225.0 (http://www.zggtr.org/index.php?topic=225.0)
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Great...thanks! Going to pick it up Sunday..... ;D
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Thanks again everyone for all the help! I'll be a little more involved here once I get settled in with it. I'll take a train up there, and ride the 4 1/2 hours back...nothing like jumping in with both feet. ;) Feel I got a fair deal, so the time was right.
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Great...thanks! Going to pick it up Sunday..... ;D
Exciting! 2011 is a great Concours year... especially if you are getting the Silver ;)
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Found a couple nice 09's, but grabbed the 11...and it's black. 8)
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Found a couple nice 09's, but grabbed the 11...and it's black. 8)
Well, congrats on the bike! I guess you'll have to work around the slower color.
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Well, congrats on the bike! I guess you'll have to work around the slower color.
Lol, I have 4 other bikes.....all black! I'll do my best. ;)
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Are you really ZG trolling with a different user name? ;D
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Are you really ZG trolling with a different user name? ;D
Hmmmm..have you ever seen both of us in the same room? :o
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Hmmmm..have you ever seen both of us in the same room? :o
LOL, you'll do.
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Some reason I feel at home here..... ;)
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Are you really ZG trolling with a different user name? ;D
Hmmmm..have you ever seen both of us in the same room? :o
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Congrats YJ! :thumbs: :chugbeer:
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Appreciate that...and thanks again for the help, although a little biased. ;)
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Appreciate that...and thanks again for the help, although a little biased. ;)
No worries bro, happy to help. Thanks for the pm's, hopefully I helped eliminate some of your other choices... (ie silverdammit ;) )
;D ;D ;D :stirpot:
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No worries bro, happy to help. Thanks for the pm's, hopefully I helped eliminate some of your other choices... (ie silverdammit ;) )
;D ;D ;D :stirpot:
Boy I really hate to encourage this.....think i'll just post a picture of a red one. ;)
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Hmmmm..have you ever seen both of us in the same room? :o
You have a point there.
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BTW, looks like we settled on 10K....has risers, and brighter bulbs. Seemed like a good price....
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I personally like the features that came on my '12. The mode button where the '08/'09 has the flash to pass button is very usefull. I can cycle through the displays without having to take my hands off the bars.
I appreciate the linked brakes, traction control, and ABS since I ride in all weather conditions.
I like the factory heated grips since I ride all year round and various elevations.
I would have even paid extra $ if the bike had come equipped with factory cruise control. Once you have had a bike with factory cruise control is it hard to ride long distance without it. One less thing to take your attention away from the road and cagers around you.
I like the "econo" mode option that changes the fuel/air mixture for better fuel economy when I am "cruising/commuting/traveling".
I don't really notice a difference in the look of the '08/'09 bikes from the '10+ bikes. It is very subtle IMO. If my budget was limited I would have picked up a RED '09 and been very happy.
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I don't really notice a difference in the look of the '08/'09 bikes from the '10+ bikes. It is very subtle IMO.
Not in my opinion. One of the most visible elements- the huge front fairings with their air vents is very different between gen1 and gen2 C14's. I do like the gen2 fairing much more. But the *other* "look" changes are pretty subtle (single tone seat, larger windshield, pannier paint, exhaust shield, different mirror position, muffler shape.)
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Not in my opinion. One of the most visible elements- the huge front fairings with their air vents is very different between gen1 and gen2 C14's. I do like the gen2 fairing much more. But the *other* "look" changes are pretty subtle (single tone seat, larger windshield, pannier paint, exhaust shield, different mirror position, muffler shape.)
+1, and the extra stickers on the front fender. Can't forget those :)
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+1, and the extra stickers on the front fender. Can't forget those :)
Those are actually the only ones I left (ABS/Traction, but I would guess those would be on the gen1 also, if it had that option). Removed all the rest and put them inside the panniers.
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I am now the happy owner of a Black 2011 Concours. ;D The day started on a train heading north at 6:50 AM. Transferred to a bus at 9, finally arrived at the sellers a little after noon. After about an hour of the paperwork being taken care of, paying the man, and 30 minutes of telling me things about the bike I already knew, I was off for the 4 1/2 hour ride home...and I don't think I will do something like that again! Nothing in particular, just the entire ordeal was very long and hot and riding a bike I'm not familiar with for that long of a ride was probably pushing it. My initial impressions are that this thing is a blast! It's smooth, power to burn, and very stable. The seller added wedges that I'm not too sure I'll keep, I want to compare bar heights before I make any decisions, although an easy decision was made about an hour into the trip...the seat is CRAP! I'm certain with all the moving around I was doing, half the cagers thought I had a hemmoroid, and the other half tried to stay the hell away from me. I also know I want a different screen, maybe a pipe...although not hearing the whine of an exhaust for that length of time was kinda nice. And BTW ZG, I found a painter that will get rid of this black for me and paint it burgundy.... :o
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Congrats on the bike. Sorry about the black.
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Congrats on the bike. Sorry about the black.
Nothing a can of Krylon can't fix......
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I am now the happy owner of a Black 2011 Concours. ;D The day started on a train heading north at 6:50 AM. Transferred to a bus at 9, finally arrived at the sellers a little after noon. After about an hour of the paperwork being taken care of, paying the man, and 30 minutes of telling me things about the bike I already knew, I was off for the 4 1/2 hour ride home...and I don't think I will do something like that again! Nothing in particular, just the entire ordeal was very long and hot and riding a bike I'm not familiar with for that long of a ride was probably pushing it.
Congrats. I know I could not go through something like that!
My initial impressions are that this thing is a blast! It's smooth, power to burn, and very stable.
Indeed. You will love it more, the more you ride it.
The seller added wedges that I'm not too sure I'll keep, I want to compare bar heights before I make any decisions, although an easy decision was made about an hour into the trip...the seat is CRAP! I'm certain with all the moving around I was doing, half the cagers thought I had a hemmoroid, and the other half tried to stay the hell away from me.
Well, my seat was replaced before I even rode it the first time (had to because I needed much lower). I do like my Sargent and there are lots of nice options out there.
I also know I want a different screen, maybe a pipe...although not hearing the whine of an exhaust for that length of time was kinda nice.
Yeah, quiet *is* nice, for you and others too. Plus, quieter= faster! :)
And BTW ZG, I found a painter that will get rid of this black for me and paint it burgundy.... :o
LOL
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I'm actually looking at the Corbin...the little back rest incorporated into the passenger seat would be nice! Regarding the exhaust, all my bikes have aftermarket ones, so this is a little different. If I do decide to go that route, it will be down the priority list....and thanks!
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I'm actually looking at the Corbin...the little back rest incorporated into the passenger seat would be nice! Regarding the exhaust, all my bikes have aftermarket ones, so this is a little different. If I do decide to go that route, it will be down the priority list....and thanks!
I rode down to Hollister in June to get fitted for a Corbin. The difference is astonishing.
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Good on ya! Glad to hear you got yerself a new scooter!
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I rode down to Hollister in June to get fitted for a Corbin. The difference is astonishing.
Definately on the to-do list, I'm about 2 hours away....the feeling is just starting to return.
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Good on ya! Glad to hear you got yerself a new scooter!
Appreciate it....I think I made the right choice!
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Some great information here. Thought I would check out the post since I was considering a used 2009 and an unsold 2011 (both black). Impressed with the changes in the post 10 and hopefully this coming tuesday make the two and a half hour trip to trade in my kawi 900 LT. Will see how me seat likes the Concours seat. Can not believe that it can be much worse than the LT.
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The best advice I can give is take a lot of breaks, and take some aspirin before the trip.... ;D Best of luck, you'll love the bike!
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When I bought my Concours I rode it 500 miles home and didn't think the seat was bad. I does compress too much after riding for a couple hours, but does a great job at absorbing some bumps that the suspension doesn't absorb all the way.
When I sat on my friends bike with a corbin seat I felt that the seat was more a touring seat instead of a sport touring seat. I sat me so upright that the bars would have to be pulled back 6 inches for me to be comfortable. Made the bike feel more like a goldwing (which I tried and didn't like)
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Since the bike already has risers, that may work out pretty well!
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Not in my opinion. One of the most visible elements- the huge front fairings with their air vents is very different between gen1 and gen2 C14's. I do like the gen2 fairing much more. But the *other* "look" changes are pretty subtle (single tone seat, larger windshield, pannier paint, exhaust shield, different mirror position, muffler shape.)
I can't tell the difference in the mirrors from 09 to 2010 (looking at a picture) are they that subtle?
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I believe that they are situated a bit higher than the 08/09 bikes.
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I can't tell the difference in the mirrors from 09 to 2010 (looking at a picture) are they that subtle?
I don't know the exact height difference, but it is supposedly a few inches (which I believe would be significant). You might not be able to tell from just looking at photos, however.
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I can't tell the difference in the mirrors from 09 to 2010 (looking at a picture) are they that subtle?
The mirrors were raised because riders complained about seeing too much of the saddlebags in the mirrors. The side effect (benefit) is more wind protection for the hands (if you don't use risers).