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Title: Staples of Life
Post by: Miss Silvera on November 09, 2012, 07:49:44 AM
I tried to narrow the list down to what would substain you and what the pioneer's had on their journey across the plains... and something that would ward off disease and famine, and a replacement fuel for heat and cooking that could be used anywhere basically

Beans
Rice
Flour
Corn Meal
Water
Ammo
Propane
Vitamin C

Please add............
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Gumby on November 09, 2012, 07:53:54 AM
Alcohol, used to disinfect, clean, and always good after a long day on the trail.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 09, 2012, 08:15:46 AM
Beer and TV
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Miss Silvera on November 09, 2012, 08:20:51 AM
Trying to be serious... 8)
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Gumby on November 09, 2012, 08:50:01 AM
Trying to be serious... 8)
I was being serious. This is straight out of the US Army Survival Guide.

"During the Southeast Asian conflict, soldiers used antifungal powders, lye
soap, chlorine bleach, alcohol, vinegar, concentrated salt water, and iodine to treat fungal infections with
varying degrees of success."


Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Mister Tee on November 09, 2012, 08:52:54 AM
Beans
Rice
Flour
Corn Meal

(wouldn't eat the above four personally other than to avert starvation.  Maybe rice.)

Water
Ammo
Propane
Vitamin C

Dried veggies
Dried meats
Gasoline
Diesel
Kerosene/heating fuel for stove
Charcoal
Scotch/wine (seriously - tradeable commodity even if you don't drink)
Various food preservation chemicals
Water disinfection tablets
Toilet paper


Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 09, 2012, 08:56:48 AM
I was serious as well.  I'm a tv junkie.  It doesn't have to be large screen, just something that runs on batteries that I can recharge via the sun or some other means and beer, I have to have beer.  I could subsist on water but what's the point?  I could keep the beer cool in a stream as I would have to have some water source that could be sterilized.  Bottled water only goes so far.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: BackInTheSaddle on November 09, 2012, 09:17:28 AM
Since this is modern day and not pioneer days I would add;
Portable radio & extra batteries
Cell phone / smart phone
Flash light & extra batteries
Solar or crank charging source for cell
12 Gauge & shells for protecting all of the things we have listed from starving people - or zombies
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: stevewfl on November 09, 2012, 09:18:55 AM
No one mentioned our wives, girlfriends, or dates?  (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j180/stevewfl/avatars/eek.gif)

OK I will.....


WIMINZ!  :D
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 09, 2012, 09:27:34 AM
Key point.  Thanks, Steve!  I was being overly selfish in my thoughts and you brought me back to reality.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Conrad on November 09, 2012, 09:34:16 AM
Ammo won't do you any good without something to use it in.

guns
fishing equipment
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Miss Silvera on November 09, 2012, 10:22:05 AM
I was being serious. This is straight out of the US Army Survival Guide.

"During the Southeast Asian conflict, soldiers used antifungal powders, lye
soap, chlorine bleach, alcohol, vinegar, concentrated salt water, and iodine to treat fungal infections with
varying degrees of success."

Yes I knew YOU were...Va Jim...was being funny..or trying..LOL! 
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Rhino on November 09, 2012, 10:56:56 AM
What good is ammo without firearms! So adding these to the list:

Hunting rifle
Shotgun
defense pistol

Oops, just realized Conrad beat me to it.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: ZG on November 09, 2012, 11:03:12 AM
Tobacco and Ohlins for my wagon...  ;)
 
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Pokey on November 09, 2012, 12:17:53 PM
KIPASS
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Conrad on November 09, 2012, 12:19:21 PM
Tobacco and Ohlins for my wagon...  ;)

What kinda wagon do you have that needs tobacco?    :o
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: ZG on November 09, 2012, 12:33:41 PM
What kinda wagon do you have that needs tobacco?    :o

One with gold'ish teeth to match the suspension?  :-\
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Outback_Jon on November 09, 2012, 12:38:28 PM
Since this is modern day and not pioneer days I would add;
Portable radio & extra batteries
Cell phone / smart phone
Flash light & extra batteries
Solar or crank charging source for cell
12 Gauge & shells for protecting all of the things we have listed from starving people - or zombies
I'm going to assume we're in the SHTF mode, so I'd expect cell phones to be useless.  Instead, I'm bringing a battery operated 2m ham radio.  (Or, even better, a 2m/440)  Listening to a radio is handy, but actual communication is far better.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: stevewfl on November 09, 2012, 12:48:45 PM

One with gold'ish teeth to match the suspension?  :-\

(http://www.mycosmeticdentisthouston.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/wayne.jpg)
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: ZG on November 09, 2012, 01:15:40 PM
 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Conrad on November 09, 2012, 01:18:23 PM
(http://www.mycosmeticdentisthouston.com/blog1/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/wayne.jpg)

I'm diggin those tats!    :o
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Maille Man on November 09, 2012, 02:25:42 PM
Gotta have a blade of some sort.  A gun will only last as long as the bullets.  A sword will last as long as the arm that wields it.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: gPink on November 09, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
Stuff from around the house:
moth balls
lye soap 
gasoline
detergent
bottles
rags
stick matches
pipe
wax
etc
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 09, 2012, 04:38:36 PM
Gotta have a blade of some sort.  A gun will only last as long as the bullets.  A sword will last as long as the arm that wields it.

Someone mention my name?  Sword for hire...   Actually, I think that's a really good idea but something other than a broadsword but longer than a Roman short sword.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Rick Hall on November 09, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
Flour
Yeast (or sourdough starter)
Lard (as it keeps somewhat well)
Dried beans
Sugar
Coffee
Dried fruit
Knife (maybe two or three)
Lead, and a small lead dispenser.
Fiskin supplies (line and hooks)
First aid kit, small.
Saw, 16-18" blade
Matches/lighter
Visa/Mastercard
Gin

Rick
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Skinny on November 10, 2012, 09:56:35 PM
Iodine
silver & gold
salt
dried meats
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: mr t on November 11, 2012, 09:18:48 AM
 
      Reading material
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 11, 2012, 03:48:09 PM
That's what the back of beer cans are for..
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: T Cro ® on November 11, 2012, 05:43:43 PM
That's what the back of beer cans are for..

MT beer cans make great fork brace shim material too.... Ask Murph!
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Awaz on November 12, 2012, 06:42:28 AM
We have a 48 hour kit at the house. Actually my wife put it together - our Church is big on preparedness for emergency. It contains quite a few cans of oatmeals. We canned it ourselves. Few non-perishable canned food. Few jugs of drinking water - we rotate those every week to keep fresh. Flash light and spare batteries. First aid kit. Think few warm blankets. I will have to go look what else the stash contains. Oh as far as weapon goes, just a big knife and a pellet gun....guess short on that department.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 12, 2012, 07:19:23 AM
The pellet gun would work on small animals (squirrels, rabbits, birds, whatever) if it has sufficient power.  Not much on holding a man sized animal up unless you are a very good shot.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Mettler1 on November 12, 2012, 11:12:39 AM
MT beer cans make great fork brace shim material too.... Ask Murph!
  Damn, I didn't know that. I wasted a good feeler gauge for a shim!!
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Pokey on November 12, 2012, 11:47:23 AM
Rice
Beans
Fire tender
2 folding knives
Large fixed knife
Small axe
22 magnum and "lots" of ammo
Vitamin C
SPAM
Flint kit
Bourbon
Wool socks
Rain gear
Milpack gel fuel
leather gloves
gortex boots
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Strawboss on November 12, 2012, 02:29:50 PM
Dental floss
sewing kit
IV kit, not needed but nice to have
saw
first aid kit/trauma dressings/quick clot or similar
flares
kerosene
ax/hatchet
mirror
companionship is not needed to survive but it helps

Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Miss Silvera on November 13, 2012, 08:05:45 AM
We have a 48 hour kit at the house. Actually my wife put it together - our Church is big on preparedness for emergency. It contains quite a few cans of oatmeals. We canned it ourselves. Few non-perishable canned food. Few jugs of drinking water - we rotate those every week to keep fresh. Flash light and spare batteries. First aid kit. Think few warm blankets. I will have to go look what else the stash contains. Oh as far as weapon goes, just a big knife and a pellet gun....guess short on that department.

BUT...you are preparing!  that is good......if you have a natural or man made disaster at least you can go a few days..... ;D
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Son of Pappy on November 13, 2012, 05:49:28 PM
Duct tape and bailing wire/twine.  Small axe, one folding and one fixed blade knives.  Fire making kit, pot to cook in/boil water in/collect water.  Small canvas tarp.  Dental floss, awl, and heavy duty needle.  Book describing edible plants.  Silvera's address, I think she may have the guns and ammo covered.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Miss Silvera on November 13, 2012, 07:52:08 PM
Chet, you know my address..... :D   1313 Mockingbird Lane
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Son of Pappy on November 13, 2012, 11:36:55 PM
Chet, you know my address..... :D   1313 Mockingbird Lane
I was going over what I already had ;)
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Conrad on November 14, 2012, 04:30:03 AM
Chet, you know my address..... :D   1313 Mockingbird Lane

You and cousin It?
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: VirginiaJim on November 14, 2012, 05:55:23 AM
I was going over what I already had ;)

Glad to see you back!
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Son of Pappy on November 14, 2012, 09:08:05 AM
Glad to see you back!
THX!  I reckon I should add a computer to the list, how else we gonna survive? ;D
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: JP on November 17, 2012, 05:38:04 PM
I'm a little reluctant to mention it but you'll be glad I did , tampons.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Strawboss on November 18, 2012, 04:42:54 PM
Sand whistles/tampons?  I forgot the sanitary napkins when I said a trauma kit, best things for stuffing into a bleeding wound.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: gPink on November 18, 2012, 04:55:49 PM
scented or unscented?
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Pokey on November 18, 2012, 06:08:56 PM
scented or unscented?


The ones with wings are the best.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: gPink on November 18, 2012, 06:30:32 PM
You know way too much about feminine hygiene products.
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: ZG on November 18, 2012, 06:39:32 PM

The ones with wings are the best.

Goldwings?  ???
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Son of Pappy on November 18, 2012, 07:35:06 PM

Goldwings?  ???
No, the boot company :o
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Pokey on November 18, 2012, 09:06:58 PM
 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: rush2112 on November 19, 2012, 05:59:19 PM
.22lr rifle (ammo plentiful, cheap, buy in bulk, small game weapon, also deadly against bad guys if needed, could be most important gun in your collection)

Dependable rifle in .223/5.56 (popular NATO round, many guns shoot it, relatively cheap to buy ammo in bulk)

Dependable rifle in 7.62x39 (popular NATO round, many guns shoot it, cheap to buy ammo in bulk)
Title: Re: Staples of Life
Post by: Miss Silvera on November 19, 2012, 07:39:31 PM
.22lr rifle (ammo plentiful, cheap, buy in bulk, small game weapon, also deadly against bad guys if needed, could be most important gun in your collection)

Dependable rifle in .223/5.56 (popular NATO round, many guns shoot it, relatively cheap to buy ammo in bulk)

Dependable rifle in 7.62x39 (popular NATO round, many guns shoot it, cheap to buy ammo in bulk)


Ditto...I would add a 12 gauge...same reasons....

I agree that the .22 RF is widly underlooked.....very valuable round in any situation.